Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argues there is no separation of church and state in U.S. Constitution

[marvin martian]

So you are ok with Sharia Law? Wow.

Established by the government? No. But if your fellow Muslims want to practice it, fine by me.

 

[BackAgain]

The LT Governor of Texas, the most influential position in the state (history there), as part of a Trump Commission, is arguing there is no separation of Church and State. Given the Texas Republican's sudden fear of Sharia law, this appears to be a terrifying position to take. Thoughts USMB?

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argues there is no separation of church and state in U.S. Constitution

Patrick spoke as chair of President Donald Trump's Religious Liberty Commission, which is planning to make federal policy recommendations in May.

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Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argues there is no separation of church and state in U.S. Constitution​

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick speaks during a press conference on Monday, June 23, 2025, in Austin. Patrick was addressing about Gov. Greg Abbott’s veto the night before of the legislature’s bill to ban THC products.
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argued "there is no such thing as ‘separation of church and state' in the U.S. Constitution." He issued the statement this week in his role as chair of President Donald Trump's Religious Liberty Commission, which plans to make federal policy recommendations in May.

"For too long, the anti-God left has used this phrase to suppress people of religion in our country," Patrick said. "During all 7 Commission hearings, witness after witness testified that the so-called ‘separation of church and state' was used to take their God-given religious liberty rights away."

Patrick’s remarks come as Texas is involved in multiple battles over the dividing line between church and state. These include multiple lawsuits over the enforcement of Senate Bill 10, which requires the display of an explicitly Protestant translation of the Ten Commandments in every Texas public school classroom, as well as efforts by Gov. Greg Abbott and Attorney General Ken Paxton — the latter a candidate for the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate — to target what they call the implementation of Islamic religious law.

Douglas Laycock, a professor of constitutional law at the University of Texas School of Law, called Patrick’s statement a “very old claim from people who want to use government power to impose their religious practices on other people.”

"It is literally true that the word separation of church and state do not appear in the Constitution, but the idea clearly appears in the Constitution," Laycock added.

Sam Martin, Frank Church Chair of Public Affairs at Boise State University, said that, while it is technically true that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution, the principle is shorthand for what is embedded in the First Amendment's ban on a government-established religion.

"Religious people have every reason and claim to make arguments and be in public life," Martin said. "But [Patrick is] not just arguing that religious people belong in public life. He’s arguing for a more privileged role for Christianity in public institutions, and I think that that is less defensible and less in line with what we know about the founding and the Constitution and certainly the way the courts have interpreted rights to religious freedom.”

Patrick said the commission will deliver its recommendations to Trump on how to "safeguard" Americans' religious liberty next month.

"What I think Patrick is doing, and what this commission seems to be heading toward, is attacking the very fundamental idea that government should remain, let’s say, institutionally separate from religion," Martin said. "And that is a hallmark of Christian nationalist practice."

He is partly right. Our Constitution certainly does not say precisely that. But …

The shorthand expression does have value just the same. It’s a not quite fully accurate effort to explain the concept enshrined in our First Amendment. We have no official religion. We respect the right of people who have religious beliefs to have and share those beliefs. We don’t allow elected officials to be barred from Office because of any particular religious faith they have or practice.

 

[22lcidw]

But banging porn stars while your wife sits home with your new born baby is all cool.

And Progressive Socialist Communists uplifting the porn stars above those citizens who live traditional marriages is the real disgusting propaganda that we all live with. Like it or not you destroyed traditional marriage to get and legitimize all other ways of living.

 

[pknopp]

And Progressive Socialist Communists uplifting the porn stars above those citizens who live traditional marriages is the real disgusting propaganda that we all live with. Like it or not you destroyed traditional marriage to get and legitimize all other ways of living.

I don't recall ever doing that but unhinged rants seems to be the way to go.

 

[marvin martian]

Except there`s no evidence of Biden molesting his daughter. Trump has a history with Epstein including 8 flights on his private jet. Ashkley Biden said that she had taken "probably inappropriate" showers with her father, but that`s not sexually molesting.

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Biden raped his own daughter, and you supported him.

 

[markef]

The valid reason for the necessary separation of Church and State was stated by Madison. One has only to look at the blood soaked soil of Europe from religious wars to understand that necessity. First, the government decides that there is only one valid religion. Then they decide which sect of that religion is valid. But other sects decide that interpretation is wrong. Then they go to war with each other, and since they are both fighting God's battle, nothing they do is wrong. Atrocity follows atrocity, and in the name of God. Patrick is merely trying to renew that kind of insanity.

Outlawing Christianity while embracing Secular Humanism does not meet the intent of separation of church and state.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

So you are ok with Sharia Law? Wow.

No. That’s another reason we have the second amendment.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Dan Patrick...lol. When he was a sports-caster in Houston he used to be hilarious. Looks like he’s brought that comedy to the public sqare as well.

No. That’s your bat shit crazy boy Olberman. He is probably down at the reflecting pool taking algae samples and tearing up the new liner.

 

[marvin martian]

The LT Governor of Texas, the most influential position in the state (history there), as part of a Trump Commission, is arguing there is no separation of Church and State. Given the Texas Republican's sudden fear of Sharia law, this appears to be a terrifying position to take. Thoughts USMB?

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argues there is no separation of church and state in U.S. Constitution

Patrick spoke as chair of President Donald Trump's Religious Liberty Commission, which is planning to make federal policy recommendations in May.

www.kut.org

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argues there is no separation of church and state in U.S. Constitution​

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick speaks during a press conference on Monday, June 23, 2025, in Austin. Patrick was addressing about Gov. Greg Abbott’s veto the night before of the legislature’s bill to ban THC products.
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argued "there is no such thing as ‘separation of church and state' in the U.S. Constitution." He issued the statement this week in his role as chair of President Donald Trump's Religious Liberty Commission, which plans to make federal policy recommendations in May.

"For too long, the anti-God left has used this phrase to suppress people of religion in our country," Patrick said. "During all 7 Commission hearings, witness after witness testified that the so-called ‘separation of church and state' was used to take their God-given religious liberty rights away."

Patrick’s remarks come as Texas is involved in multiple battles over the dividing line between church and state. These include multiple lawsuits over the enforcement of Senate Bill 10, which requires the display of an explicitly Protestant translation of the Ten Commandments in every Texas public school classroom, as well as efforts by Gov. Greg Abbott and Attorney General Ken Paxton — the latter a candidate for the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate — to target what they call the implementation of Islamic religious law.

Douglas Laycock, a professor of constitutional law at the University of Texas School of Law, called Patrick’s statement a “very old claim from people who want to use government power to impose their religious practices on other people.”

"It is literally true that the word separation of church and state do not appear in the Constitution, but the idea clearly appears in the Constitution," Laycock added.

Sam Martin, Frank Church Chair of Public Affairs at Boise State University, said that, while it is technically true that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution, the principle is shorthand for what is embedded in the First Amendment's ban on a government-established religion.

"Religious people have every reason and claim to make arguments and be in public life," Martin said. "But [Patrick is] not just arguing that religious people belong in public life. He’s arguing for a more privileged role for Christianity in public institutions, and I think that that is less defensible and less in line with what we know about the founding and the Constitution and certainly the way the courts have interpreted rights to religious freedom.”

Patrick said the commission will deliver its recommendations to Trump on how to "safeguard" Americans' religious liberty next month.

"What I think Patrick is doing, and what this commission seems to be heading toward, is attacking the very fundamental idea that government should remain, let’s say, institutionally separate from religion," Martin said. "And that is a hallmark of Christian nationalist practice."

I'm surprised you know who Dan Patrick is.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

We were not founded as a "Christian" nation. Period.

Your feelings are silly.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Some of the original colonies banned Catholics. Others were founded by minorities who banned Anglicans.

Separation of Church and state protects ALL religions.

Show us all where it says separation of church and state in the constitution or the bill of rights. You can’t so you won’t.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Always keep in mind who you’re dealing with here. These are the people that were told to believe for sixty years there was a constitutional right to abortion. Yet they could never produce it.

 

[Andylusion]

The LT Governor of Texas, the most influential position in the state (history there), as part of a Trump Commission, is arguing there is no separation of Church and State. Given the Texas Republican's sudden fear of Sharia law, this appears to be a terrifying position to take. Thoughts USMB?

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argues there is no separation of church and state in U.S. Constitution

Patrick spoke as chair of President Donald Trump's Religious Liberty Commission, which is planning to make federal policy recommendations in May.

www.kut.org

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argues there is no separation of church and state in U.S. Constitution​

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick speaks during a press conference on Monday, June 23, 2025, in Austin. Patrick was addressing about Gov. Greg Abbott’s veto the night before of the legislature’s bill to ban THC products.
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick argued "there is no such thing as ‘separation of church and state' in the U.S. Constitution." He issued the statement this week in his role as chair of President Donald Trump's Religious Liberty Commission, which plans to make federal policy recommendations in May.

"For too long, the anti-God left has used this phrase to suppress people of religion in our country," Patrick said. "During all 7 Commission hearings, witness after witness testified that the so-called ‘separation of church and state' was used to take their God-given religious liberty rights away."

Patrick’s remarks come as Texas is involved in multiple battles over the dividing line between church and state. These include multiple lawsuits over the enforcement of Senate Bill 10, which requires the display of an explicitly Protestant translation of the Ten Commandments in every Texas public school classroom, as well as efforts by Gov. Greg Abbott and Attorney General Ken Paxton — the latter a candidate for the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate — to target what they call the implementation of Islamic religious law.

Douglas Laycock, a professor of constitutional law at the University of Texas School of Law, called Patrick’s statement a “very old claim from people who want to use government power to impose their religious practices on other people.”

"It is literally true that the word separation of church and state do not appear in the Constitution, but the idea clearly appears in the Constitution," Laycock added.

Sam Martin, Frank Church Chair of Public Affairs at Boise State University, said that, while it is technically true that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution, the principle is shorthand for what is embedded in the First Amendment's ban on a government-established religion.

"Religious people have every reason and claim to make arguments and be in public life," Martin said. "But [Patrick is] not just arguing that religious people belong in public life. He’s arguing for a more privileged role for Christianity in public institutions, and I think that that is less defensible and less in line with what we know about the founding and the Constitution and certainly the way the courts have interpreted rights to religious freedom.”

Patrick said the commission will deliver its recommendations to Trump on how to "safeguard" Americans' religious liberty next month.

"What I think Patrick is doing, and what this commission seems to be heading toward, is attacking the very fundamental idea that government should remain, let’s say, institutionally separate from religion," Martin said. "And that is a hallmark of Christian nationalist practice."

But there is no separation of church and state in the constitution.

If the Hallmark of Christian Nationalism is to state which is factually true, then you are basically admitting you are a bunch of liars.
There is no separation of church and state anywhere in the constitution.

In fact, there is a clear direct, absolute prohibition on preventing the free exercise of Religion.

So we are allowed to hold and promote religious beliefs.... even in government.

Now we are not to force a specific religion on the public. We can't make a state Religion... which includes the religion of Atheism. And it is a religion.

You can't force that on us either.

So if Christian nationalism is people being allowed to hold their religious views... yeah. We support. That's what the constitution says.

 

[Andylusion]

Some of the original colonies banned Catholics. Others were founded by minorities who banned Anglicans.

Separation of Church and state protects ALL religions.

Yes. And all rights are reserved for the states. That is a state right. Not a federal right. But yes it is a state right.
There is no separation of church and state in the constitution.

 

[August West]

Are you saying Biden's daughter lied? Are you saying that if Trump flew on the plane then he must be guilty of whatever democrats accuse him of?

There is no "if". Trump took at least 8 flights on Epstein`s plane. Do you think they were golf outings?

And Progressive Socialist Communists uplifting the porn stars above those citizens who live traditional marriages is the real disgusting propaganda that we all live with. Like it or not you destroyed traditional marriage to get and legitimize all other ways of living.

Is it a "traditional" marriage when the husband is buying whores while his wife is pregnant?

 

[initforme]

And Progressive Socialist Communists uplifting the porn stars above those citizens who live traditional marriages is the real disgusting propaganda that we all live with. Like it or not you destroyed traditional marriage to get and legitimize all other ways of living.

People from both political sides did that, not just one. Accept it. To be honest k Sa ra sa ra whatever will be will be. Im not losing one wink of sleep over it.