White college fraternity in Oklahoma shut down for overt racism

[Steinlight]

Gang assaulting someone for saying mean words. How brave that would be of them

Saying mean words is not gang assaulting. I bet they wouldnt sing their song though would they?

Of course it isnt. You want to punish someone for mean words yet support gang assault against them for saying it. Totally rational there

I only support people standing up for what they believe. To test that I think they should sing their song locked in a room with the OU football and hoop team. For example If I met you face to face I would say much worse to you than I say on this board and dare you to say anything back. You on the other hand wouldnt say anything.

You are a broken record. Too bad there isn't a affirmative action program for you to come up with an original post.

You are a broken joke. Too bad there isnt a affirmative action program for you to get some better material.

that you made that shit post seriously.

 

[Asclepias]

Saying mean words is not gang assaulting. I bet they wouldnt sing their song though would they?

Of course it isnt. You want to punish someone for mean words yet support gang assault against them for saying it. Totally rational there

I only support people standing up for what they believe. To test that I think they should sing their song locked in a room with the OU football and hoop team. For example If I met you face to face I would say much worse to you than I say on this board and dare you to say anything back. You on the other hand wouldnt say anything.

You are a broken record. Too bad there isn't a affirmative action program for you to come up with an original post.

You are a broken joke. Too bad there isnt a affirmative action program for you to get some better material.

that you made that shit post seriously.

Speak english boy. This forum is from the US.

 

[The Rabbi]

Maybe you're not verybright. Actually I know that. Protecting someone from gov't action is not asking for gov't action. Perhaps you should take a course in logic. Or reading. Or soemthing.
Remind me why these kids should be expelled for a private video on a private bus on the way to a private event.

I'm not convinced they should be expelled.

I'm merely saying it's well within the universities rights to do so.

Because unlike you, my love of freedom is not couched in biased political ideology.

Why is it in the university's right to do so?

They make the rules?

So the university has carte blanche to expel students for anything whatsoever? I dont think so.

Thats what rules are for. I know you dont think but thats what we are trying to correct for you.

The rules say the university can trample on students' rights to free speech? I dont think so.
How about if the university tried to expel a student group for hosting a conference on Afrocentrism? WOuld that be OK?

 

[manifold]

Why is it in the university's right to do so?

Last time I checked, universities get to decide who they let attend and who they don't.

 

[Godboy]

The thing that makes this so bad is that this is a national fraternity & one of the largest. General Holder needs to tamp this out

I never understood why Black people pledged to Greek organizations. No one has ever been able to give me an answer without getting upset.

Your desire for segregation is duly noted, but we the people dont like your racist vision for the US, therefore you will just have to deal with it.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm not convinced they should be expelled.

I'm merely saying it's well within the universities rights to do so.

Because unlike you, my love of freedom is not couched in biased political ideology.

Why is it in the university's right to do so?

They make the rules?

So the university has carte blanche to expel students for anything whatsoever? I dont think so.

Thats what rules are for. I know you dont think but thats what we are trying to correct for you.

The rules say the university can trample on students' rights to free speech? I dont think so.
How about if the university tried to expel a student group for hosting a conference on Afrocentrism? WOuld that be OK?

Who said anything about trampling?

Why would they expel a student group hosting a conference on Afrocentrism?

Afrocentric - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of AFROCENTRIC
1
: centered on or derived from Africa or the Africans
2
: emphasizing or promoting emphasis on African culture and the contributions of Africans to the development of Western civilization

 

[Steinlight]

Government guarantees you free speech
Unless you say something they dont like at a government school, you are expelled. no double think there at all.

What does that have to do with the consequences of that free speech? Youre an idiot in another country trying to interpret what goes on over here.

I am sorry I must have missed the clause in the first amendment that protects your precious feelings

The first amendment has nothing to do with consequences of free speech. It just lets you know you have the right to face the consequences.

Must have missed the consequences from the government clause. Kind of like how Patrick Henry said. Give me liberty,unless the government doesn't approve and wants to selectively prosecute, or give me death.

You miss a lot of things. Dangers of not being educated.

tell us more about this clause that protects your precious feels.

 

[Michelle420]

If I misrepresented anything you wrote, it's only because you repeatedly contradict yourself.

On one hand you say you want the government to keep their noses out of it, and on the other hand you say these students should be legally protected from getting expelled.

Perhaps you should make up your mind.

Maybe you're not verybright. Actually I know that. Protecting someone from gov't action is not asking for gov't action. Perhaps you should take a course in logic. Or reading. Or soemthing.
Remind me why these kids should be expelled for a private video on a private bus on the way to a private event.

I'm not convinced they should be expelled.

I'm merely saying it's well within the universities rights to do so.

Because unlike you, my love of freedom is not couched in biased political ideology.

Why is it in the university's right to do so?

The University of Oklahoma boasts over 420 registered student organizations that cover a wide variety of interests from academic initiatives to recreational sports, religious groups, honor societies, hobbies, cultural clubs, and more.

All student organizations at the University of Oklahoma are required to register with the Student Government Association (SGA) in order to become or remain eligible for the SGA primary funding process. New organizations may register at any time during the academic year if funding is not of consideration.

Registered organizations receive benefits from the University of Oklahoma including free or discounted reservations of University facilities, the ability to publicize on campus, an assigned mailbox in the Conoco Wing of the Union, sponsorship opportunities from University departments, a University Web site and e-mail address, and more.

Register a Student Organization

Membership in, association with, and benefits emanating from the Organization and its related activities shall be based upon such considerations as performance, educational achievement, and other criteria related to the goals of the organization and purposes of the activities. Judgments in this regard based solely on an individual’s race, color, religion, national origin, age, gender, sexual orientation, disability, veteran status, marital status, or political belief are not judgments based on such considerations. Further, the purpose of the organization must be consistent with public policy as established by prevailing University Community standards.

http://www.ou.edu/content/studentlife/get_involved/student_organizations/register/jcr:content/contentpar/download/file.res/Model Constitution 2012.pdf

I dont believe that covers frats.

The Frat publicly stated on their website the students ideals do not represent the frats values. Those students made specific claims about their frats membership and excluding people, then added ideology about lynching people.

The fraternity does not want to be represented that way, and it does break the University's constitution on organizations being discriminatary.

There is also a code of coduct those students have to agree to with that fraternity they are representing which they also broke.

 

[manifold]

So the university has carte blanche to expel students for anything whatsoever? I dont think so.

You "think" a lot of shit that is absurd.

What's one more for the pile.

 

[Asclepias]

What does that have to do with the consequences of that free speech? Youre an idiot in another country trying to interpret what goes on over here.

I am sorry I must have missed the clause in the first amendment that protects your precious feelings

The first amendment has nothing to do with consequences of free speech. It just lets you know you have the right to face the consequences.

Must have missed the consequences from the government clause. Kind of like how Patrick Henry said. Give me liberty,unless the government doesn't approve and wants to selectively prosecute, or give me death.

You miss a lot of things. Dangers of not being educated.

tell us more about this clause that protects your precious feels.

Take your pick. The right to vote would be a good one to start at.

 

[Steinlight]

Of course it isnt. You want to punish someone for mean words yet support gang assault against them for saying it. Totally rational there

I only support people standing up for what they believe. To test that I think they should sing their song locked in a room with the OU football and hoop team. For example If I met you face to face I would say much worse to you than I say on this board and dare you to say anything back. You on the other hand wouldnt say anything.

You are a broken record. Too bad there isn't a affirmative action program for you to come up with an original post.

You are a broken joke. Too bad there isnt a affirmative action program for you to get some better material.

that you made that shit post seriously.

Speak english boy. This forum is from the US.

at your incoherent nagger babbling.

 

[Asclepias]

I only support people standing up for what they believe. To test that I think they should sing their song locked in a room with the OU football and hoop team. For example If I met you face to face I would say much worse to you than I say on this board and dare you to say anything back. You on the other hand wouldnt say anything.

You are a broken record. Too bad there isn't a affirmative action program for you to come up with an original post.

You are a broken joke. Too bad there isnt a affirmative action program for you to get some better material.

that you made that shit post seriously.

Speak english boy. This forum is from the US.

at your incoherent nagger babbling.

LOL at your cave chimp howls.

 

[Desperado]

So when is Rev Wright's United Church of Christ going to be shut down for the same reason?
or when will Asclepias be banned for his overt racism? Just a joke till the law is applied equally for all

Except that this case has zero to do with the application of any laws.

Otherwise, nice try corky.

Ok you want to argue semantics, laws, regulations whatever.........
Until they are applied equally they are still just a joke no matter what you call them.

 

[Dot Com]

theres been a recent migration of a handful of white power-types to the board recently. Sad development.

 

[Asclepias]

So when is Rev Wright's United Church of Christ going to be shut down for the same reason?
or when will Asclepias be banned for his overt racism? Just a joke till the law is applied equally for all

Except that this case has zero to do with the application of any laws.

Otherwise, nice try corky.

Ok you want to argue semantics, laws, regulations whatever.........
Until they are applied equally they are still just a joke no matter what you call them.

The kids getting expelled are not laughing.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why is it in the university's right to do so?

Last time I checked, universities get to decide who they let attend and who they don't.

I dont think so. Let them try to bar black students and see what happens.

 

[The Rabbi]

Maybe you're not verybright. Actually I know that. Protecting someone from gov't action is not asking for gov't action. Perhaps you should take a course in logic. Or reading. Or soemthing.
Remind me why these kids should be expelled for a private video on a private bus on the way to a private event.

I'm not convinced they should be expelled.

I'm merely saying it's well within the universities rights to do so.

Because unlike you, my love of freedom is not couched in biased political ideology.

Why is it in the university's right to do so?

The University of Oklahoma boasts over 420 registered student organizations that cover a wide variety of interests from academic initiatives to recreational sports, religious groups, honor societies, hobbies, cultural clubs, and more.

All student organizations at the University of Oklahoma are required to register with the Student Government Association (SGA) in order to become or remain eligible for the SGA primary funding process. New organizations may register at any time during the academic year if funding is not of consideration.

Registered organizations receive benefits from the University of Oklahoma including free or discounted reservations of University facilities, the ability to publicize on campus, an assigned mailbox in the Conoco Wing of the Union, sponsorship opportunities from University departments, a University Web site and e-mail address, and more.

Register a Student Organization

Membership in, association with, and benefits emanating from the Organization and its related activities shall be based upon such considerations as performance, educational achievement, and other criteria related to the goals of the organization and purposes of the activities. Judgments in this regard based solely on an individual’s race, color, religion, national origin, age, gender, sexual orientation, disability, veteran status, marital status, or political belief are not judgments based on such considerations. Further, the purpose of the organization must be consistent with public policy as established by prevailing University Community standards.

http://www.ou.edu/content/studentlife/get_involved/student_organizations/register/jcr:content/contentpar/download/file.res/Model Constitution 2012.pdf

I dont believe that covers frats.

The Frat publicly stated on their website the students ideals do not represent the frats values. Those students made specific claims about their frats membership and excluding people, then added ideology about lynching people.

The fraternity does not want to be represented that way, and it does break the University's constitution on organizations being discriminatary.

There is also a code of coduct those students have to agree to with that fraternity they are representing which they also broke.

The fraternity is a privte org. They can do what they want with members.

 

[Asclepias]

The thing that makes this so bad is that this is a national fraternity & one of the largest. General Holder needs to tamp this out

I never understood why Black people pledged to Greek organizations. No one has ever been able to give me an answer without getting upset.

Your desire for segregation is duly noted, but we the people dont like your racist vision for the US, therefore you will just have to deal with it.

I like white women. Why would I desire segregation?

 

[Steinlight]

I am sorry I must have missed the clause in the first amendment that protects your precious feelings

The first amendment has nothing to do with consequences of free speech. It just lets you know you have the right to face the consequences.

Must have missed the consequences from the government clause. Kind of like how Patrick Henry said. Give me liberty,unless the government doesn't approve and wants to selectively prosecute, or give me death.

You miss a lot of things. Dangers of not being educated.

tell us more about this clause that protects your precious feels.

Take your pick. The right to vote would be a good one to start at.

. Tell us how this right to vote protects your feelings from mean white people saying wrong words.

 

[The Rabbi]

So the university has carte blanche to expel students for anything whatsoever? I dont think so.

You "think" a lot of shit that is absurd.

What's one more for the pile.

Your usual response when you can't respond intelligently.