While We Slept, Donald Trump Launched a War ... on Our Constitution and the Rule of Law

[RetiredGySgt]

Had it been Obama, and he did it according to the law, then I would question whether the consequence had been considered and prepared for. President Obama had competent people at key posts in his administration. Trump has nonothing sycophants and idiots in his key posts. And President Obama never threatened war with our NATO allies to take Greenland from Denmark. President Obama never increased inflation by putting idiot tariffs on our best trading partners and neighbors. It is the context of Trump's past actions and ambitions that brings justified criticism of the actions in Iran.

Trump followed the law he informed congress within 48 hours of using force per your own linked post.

 

[IM2]

Per article II the President can conduct limited military operations without waiting for Congress. Also a President can deploy troops without waiting for Congress.

Sustained large military action generally does require Congressional approval. What do you think Trump did wrong? It doesn't count that you don't personally like it you know.

This was unconstitutional. Period. I am sure if Harris had done this, you would not be excusing it. Drop the autoexcuses. Trump and Vance need to be impeached an removed from office, and we need to hold a new election to get a new administration in here immediately.

 

[Deadstick]

That was some unhinged rant by a very mentally unhinged man.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

This was unconstitutional. Period. I am sure if Harris had done this, you would not be excusing it. Drop the autoexcuses. Trump and Vance need to be impeached an removed from office, and we need to hold a new election to get a new administration in here immediately.

completely within the law. look up the war powers act.

 

[BS Filter]

“Americans awoke this morning in a new country. While we slept, Donald Trump launched a full-scale war to overthrow the regime in Iran and to disarm that nation. But it is our nation, our Constitution he has overthrown.
[…]
This morning, America is no longer a democratic republic governed by the rule of law. It is a tyranny governed by a man. Everyone will cheer the end of the horrid reign of mullahs in Tehran. But everyone should weep at the fall of our great constitutional order.

Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution says Congress shall have the power to declare war. In common understanding it means a president cannot initiative a war. When George Bush took us into Iraq, he got an authorization to use military force (AUMF) from Congress. In fact, Congress passed three open ended authorizations, in 1991, in 2001, and in 2002.”

While We Slept, Donald Trump Launched a War ... on Our Constitution and the Rule of Law

Americans woke up this morning in a nation no longer governed by the Constitution, but one ruled by one man.

www.lincolnsquare.media

Trump’s supporters and defenders are likewise enemies of the Constitution and the rule of law.

The illegal, un-Constitutional attack on Iran was completely unwarranted as Iran posed no threat to the United States, Trump lied about Iran ‘soon’ having missiles capable of striking the United States – another Republican president has again lied America into yet another illegal war.

When Obama and Biden drop bombs it's okay.

 

[dblack]

Come and get us. I dare you to try.

Lol... An interwebz tough guy!

 

[Rawley]

Bugger off yourself. We have law concerning what the executive branch can and cannot do without the consent of Congress for good reason. However horrible the mullahs are, that is not reason to abandon the rule of law in our nation.

Really? What law says the Commander in Chief can't use our military to blow the shit out of some bad guys and their weapons?

 

[MarathonMike]

“Americans awoke this morning in a new country. While we slept, Donald Trump launched a full-scale war to overthrow the regime in Iran and to disarm that nation. But it is our nation, our Constitution he has overthrown.
[…]
This morning, America is no longer a democratic republic governed by the rule of law. It is a tyranny governed by a man. Everyone will cheer the end of the horrid reign of mullahs in Tehran. But everyone should weep at the fall of our great constitutional order.

Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution says Congress shall have the power to declare war. In common understanding it means a president cannot initiative a war. When George Bush took us into Iraq, he got an authorization to use military force (AUMF) from Congress. In fact, Congress passed three open ended authorizations, in 1991, in 2001, and in 2002.”

While We Slept, Donald Trump Launched a War ... on Our Constitution and the Rule of Law

Americans woke up this morning in a nation no longer governed by the Constitution, but one ruled by one man.

www.lincolnsquare.media

Trump’s supporters and defenders are likewise enemies of the Constitution and the rule of law.

The illegal, un-Constitutional attack on Iran was completely unwarranted as Iran posed no threat to the United States, Trump lied about Iran ‘soon’ having missiles capable of striking the United States – another Republican president has again lied America into yet another illegal war.

Boo Hoo! Clayton's beloved Ayatollah is all blowed up. The world is a better place already.

 

[BS Filter]

That was some unhinged rant by a very mentally unhinged man.

Scary, huh.

 

[IM2]

That was some unhinged rant by a very mentally unhinged man.

There was nothing unhinged about the OP. You guys are stupid enough to think that we can just bomb everybody and we won't face any danger. That is more than likely going to come to an end because of what Trump has done. Not today, not tomorrow, but it is coming.

 

[dblack]

There was nothing unhinged about the OP. You guys are stupid enough to think that we can just bomb everybody and we won't face any danger. That is more than likely going to come to an end because of what Trump has done. Not today, not tomorrow, but it is coming.

Yeah. Not sure how much longer the world will put him.

 

[IM2]

Really? What law says the Commander in Chief can't use our military to blow the shit out of some bad guys and their weapons?

Trump is the bad guy now, and so we can get blown up an we have no backup because Trump has offended our allies.

 

[Rawley]

President Obama primarily bombed militant terrorists, with the exception of Libya.

how many countries did obama bomb and why?

Executive summary The most consistent, widely cited tally is that the Obama administration carried out airstrikes or drone strikes in seven countries: Af...

factually.co

Trump is bombing a nation that has allies already sending war materials to it. And he did so without consulting Congress as the law requires.

He talked to the gang of eight - i.e. Congress

 

[BS Filter]

President Obama primarily bombed militant terrorists, with the exception of Libya.

how many countries did obama bomb and why?

Executive summary The most consistent, widely cited tally is that the Obama administration carried out airstrikes or drone strikes in seven countries: Af...

factually.co

Trump is bombing a nation that has allies already sending war materials to it. And he did so without consulting Congress as the law requires. The people that they are taking out deserve to be taken out, but what are the consequences going to be for that region, and for us? And maybe Trump's next target will not be someone that needs to be removed, say like Greenland.

Maybe you're over-reacting. No one is helping Iran. Iran will soon be under our jurisdiction.

 

[Rawley]

Had it been Obama, and he did it according to the law, then I would question whether the consequence had been considered and prepared for. President Obama had competent people at key posts in his administration. T

Well, those "competent" assholes kept us in Iraq and Afghanistan for eight ******* years.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ok Clayton, if I'm officially your enemy, why don't you come on over to my house and let's "talk" it out?

Because elder abuse is a crime.

 

[Rawley]

Well, we are committed now, and the precedent is established. So who next? Canada? Denmark, for Greenland? Mexico?

I vote for California. And I live here.

 

[Rawley]

the law only requires he inform them with in 48 hours of using the military

Pretty sure they heard about it. LOL

 

[Mick2]

Wrong. Obama inherited two wars from Bush. Stop bringing up Obama every time Trump ***** up.

We were at war with countries like Yemen, Liby, and Somalia?

Are you that f*cking stupid?

And if you don't want your hypocrisy called out then stop being a damn hypocrite you FAGAt. Clear now?

 

[theHawk]

Our Democratic President elected in 2028 will run on restoring democracy right here in the US. On not funding a goon force with more money than we fund our Marines with. On not allowing that goon force to murder citizens without being held to account. On using legislation and not EO's to establish laws. And enabling citizens to vote, not trying to prevent them from voting.

Oh of course, your buffoon will also run on opening borders and importing a hundred million illegals, and allowing them to vote.