Where did the cooling go?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Looks like more cooling in November;

So let's review:

Because the deniers understand none of this, they think it must not be true.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Marcott reconstruction has been joined to the Shakun reconstruction prior to that, and the HadCRUT4 global temperature data since, and the projected temperature change under the A1B scenario for the future, by Jos Hagelaars, in order to show us some perspective on climate change past, present and future.



This graph has been dubbed the “wheelchair.” Compared to the past, what’s happening in the present is scary. The future is scary as hell.

Global Temperature Change — the Big Picture

Shankun is a fucking joke! He used marking on clam shells and jellyfish farts as a "proxy" He's a fucking JOKE!

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Looks like more cooling in November;

So let's review:

Because the deniers understand none of this, they think it must not be true.

Pay no attention to the doctored data! I am the Great and Powerful CO2 molecule!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Is it odd there not one of the Warmers has stated what the "Average" temperate of the Arctic is supposed to be today, yet they trot out the Great Red Spot "anomaly" as if it's meaningful?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Marcott reconstruction has been joined to the Shakun reconstruction prior to that, and the HadCRUT4 global temperature data since, and the projected temperature change under the A1B scenario for the future, by Jos Hagelaars, in order to show us some perspective on climate change past, present and future.



This graph has been dubbed the “wheelchair.” Compared to the past, what’s happening in the present is scary. The future is scary as hell.

Global Temperature Change — the Big Picture

Shankun is a fucking joke! He used marking on clam shells and jellyfish farts as a "proxy" He's a fucking JOKE!

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Marcott reconstruction has been joined to the Shakun reconstruction prior to that, and the HadCRUT4 global temperature data since, and the projected temperature change under the A1B scenario for the future, by Jos Hagelaars, in order to show us some perspective on climate change past, present and future.



This graph has been dubbed the “wheelchair.” Compared to the past, what’s happening in the present is scary. The future is scary as hell.

Global Temperature Change — the Big Picture

Shankun is a fucking joke! He used marking on clam shells and jellyfish farts as a "proxy" He's a fucking JOKE!

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

You mean the ice cores that show CO2 LAGGING temperature by 800 to 1,000 years?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Marcott reconstruction has been joined to the Shakun reconstruction prior to that, and the HadCRUT4 global temperature data since, and the projected temperature change under the A1B scenario for the future, by Jos Hagelaars, in order to show us some perspective on climate change past, present and future.



This graph has been dubbed the “wheelchair.” Compared to the past, what’s happening in the present is scary. The future is scary as hell.

Global Temperature Change — the Big Picture

Shankun is a fucking joke! He used marking on clam shells and jellyfish farts as a "proxy" He's a fucking JOKE!

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

You mean the ice cores that show CO2 LAGGING temperature by 800 to 1,000 years?

Actually, its 200 to 1000. And you are not debunking anything. Nobody has ever claimed all warming was started by co2. But the co2 levels and temps, nevertheless, correlate strongly, and the increased co2 amplifies the warming. As every research scientist in the field will tell you.

Francis, you know less than nothing about any of thism. You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[SSDD]

The Marcott reconstruction has been joined to the Shakun reconstruction prior to that, and the HadCRUT4 global temperature data since, and the projected temperature change under the A1B scenario for the future, by Jos Hagelaars, in order to show us some perspective on climate change past, present and future.



This graph has been dubbed the “wheelchair.” Compared to the past, what’s happening in the present is scary. The future is scary as hell.

Global Temperature Change — the Big Picture

Shankun is a fucking joke! He used marking on clam shells and jellyfish farts as a "proxy" He's a fucking JOKE!

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

CO2 doesn't initiate any instances of warming...but if you believe it does, by all means, lets see some empirical evidence to support your belief.

 

[SSDD]

Shankun is a fucking joke! He used marking on clam shells and jellyfish farts as a "proxy" He's a fucking JOKE!

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

You mean the ice cores that show CO2 LAGGING temperature by 800 to 1,000 years?

Actually, its 200 to 1000. And you are not debunking anything. Nobody has ever claimed all warming was started by co2. But the co2 levels and temps, nevertheless, correlate strongly, and the increased co2 amplifies the warming. As every research scientist in the field will tell you.

Francis, you know less than nothing about any of thism. You are embarrassing yourself.

The correlation is that as temperatures increase, CO2 levels climb...that is empirical evidence that increased CO2 is the result of warming, not the cause. Warmer oceans outgas CO2 that was taken up during colder times...warmer land generates more CO2 as the decay of biomass is enhanced by warmer temperatures, and insects such as termites..which produce more CO2 than we do thrive.....the peer reviewed published science says that our contribution to the total CO2 in the atmosphere is so vanishingly small as to be nearly undetectable..

 

[luchitociencia]

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

Indi, look, I'm with you with this.

So, you are practically an expert in this issue about "global warming".("climate change" is just the masquerade name)

I -as an amateur- know by principle, that you must consider evidence that will challenge your conclusions.

This is performed with every theory. Darwin himself did it in his book of his Origin of Species (chapter VI Difficulties on theory), Velikovski in his book Worlds in Collision (in the Epilogue, Facing Many Problems).

Every good and reliable theory includes the challenging evidence, because such is necessary for review and to establish the theory itself for be considered as valid.

You have your theory.

But, your theory is not the infallible win win argument, otherwise you shouldn't be here confronted by others who are challenging and debunking your points.

Then, here you are with the obligation to yourself to consider what evidence can be valid to challenge your theory.

Read again, you must find and point evidence that must be taken in consideration to demonstrate your theory might not be valid.

If you really know science, this is what you must do.

Then, you must have studied the pros and cons regarding your theory.

In order to take seriously your argument, tell here what evidence you consider as valid to challenge your theory.

Again, you can't come here with a win win argument in this issue, otherwise you are showing you are not serious at all.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Shankun is a fucking joke! He used marking on clam shells and jellyfish farts as a "proxy" He's a fucking JOKE!

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

You mean the ice cores that show CO2 LAGGING temperature by 800 to 1,000 years?

Actually, its 200 to 1000. And you are not debunking anything. Nobody has ever claimed all warming was started by co2. But the co2 levels and temps, nevertheless, correlate strongly, and the increased co2 amplifies the warming. As every research scientist in the field will tell you.

Francis, you know less than nothing about any of thism. You are embarrassing yourself.

You just said that CO2 LAGS temperature by 200 to 1,000 years. Then in the next sentence you say "But the co2 levels and temps, nevertheless, correlate strongly, and the increased co2 amplifies the warming" that's the opposite of correct

 

[SSDD]

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

Indi, look, I'm with you with this.

So, you are practically an expert in this issue about "global warming".("climate change" is just the masquerade name)

I -as an amateur- know by principle, that you must consider evidence that will challenge your conclusions.

This is performed with every theory. Darwin himself did it in his book of his Origin of Species (chapter VI Difficulties on theory), Velikovski in his book Worlds in Collision (in the Epilogue, Facing Many Problems).

Every good and reliable theory includes the challenging evidence, because such is necessary for review and to establish the theory itself for be considered as valid.

You have your theory.

But, your theory is not the infallible win win argument, otherwise you shouldn't be here confronted by others who are challenging and debunking your points.

Then, here you are with the obligation to yourself to consider what evidence can be valid to challenge your theory.

Read again, you must find and point evidence that must be taken in consideration to demonstrate your theory might not be valid.

If you really know science, this is what you must do.

Then, you must have studied the pros and cons regarding your theory.

In order to take seriously your argument, tell here what evidence you consider as valid to challenge your theory.

Again, you can't come here with a win win argument in this issue, otherwise you are showing you are not serious at all.

By his own admission, he doesn't grasp the science and is apparently unwilling, or unable to even try. He holds a quasi religious faith in science and flatly refuses to accept anything said by anyone which challenges that faith. Even when a climate scientist produces peer reviewed, published literature which challenges his faith, he simply rejects that science as the work of a heretic.

He has no theory, he has no working knowledge of the science and has no interest in gaining one...such an interest might lead to him questioning his faith and that can not be allowed to happen. He has his faith and it keeps him warm...he needs, nor wants anything else.

 

[SSDD]

^^

Has never heard of Shankun, knows less than nothing about any of this, is furiously googling for material to plagiarize

Shankun was trotted out to "debunk" the 800- 1,000 year lag between temperature and CO2 both on increase and decrease as shown in the Vostok ice cores. He quickly and hastily assembled a set of "proxies" that was supposed to be more accurate that actual side by side in situ CO2 and temperature analysis from the ice cores themselves. He might not have actually used jellyfish farts as a proxy to judge temperature 600 years ago, but then again, he was immediately ridiculed as a fake and fraud.

Francis, you know fuck all about any of that. First, co2 does not always initiate all onstances of warming. However, it does strengthen them all. As the ice cores show us, quite plainly.

You mean the ice cores that show CO2 LAGGING temperature by 800 to 1,000 years?

Actually, its 200 to 1000. And you are not debunking anything. Nobody has ever claimed all warming was started by co2. But the co2 levels and temps, nevertheless, correlate strongly, and the increased co2 amplifies the warming. As every research scientist in the field will tell you.

Francis, you know less than nothing about any of thism. You are embarrassing yourself.

You just said that CO2 LAGS temperature by 200 to 1,000 years. Then in the next sentence you say "But the co2 levels and temps, nevertheless, correlate strongly, and the increased co2 amplifies the warming" that's the opposite of correct

He can't accept the fact that the correlation shows that CO2 increases follow temperature increases and that the correlation demonstrates that rising CO2 is the result of temperature increases, not the cause...

He won't have either his faith or his dogma questioned..