Where, and When, are the jobs coming back from China,?!!?? Every thing I buy now is made in China??!!

[Correll]

Are you willing to admit you are mistaken if things are not going well for America?

Is it a mistake to try and fail if the other option was just to give up without trying?


Further more, it depends how HOW the failure happens. If Trump gets his way, tariffs, and the rest of the world just sort of deals with the change, and some manufacturers try, but it still fails and the overall trends don't change? Then YES, I will admit we were wrong and the policy was a bad idea.

If Trump fails becasue the rest of the world is just too strongly opposed, and chooses to take the hit rather than give an inch to US manufacturing? Then, no, that was trying and losing because the other guys were just too strong or too determined. It doesn't prove the idea BAD.


If Trump fails because the dems crush it in the midterms and he spends the rest of his term fighting them in bullshit partisan shit, then no, that's him and his plans being sabotaged. In that case, we come back with vance and try again.

 

[JoeB131]

The Chinese have fairly paid off our politicians
The Chinese have fairly dumped toxic chemicals
The Chinese have fairly used Child labor

You must be a 10 year old boy who has not bought the cheap junk made in China.

No, what the Chinese did was.

1) Invest in infrastructure
2) Invest in education
3) Encouraged foreign investment
4) Actually had a work ethic.

Your MAGA hat was made in China.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Was Feb 2025 inflation higher or lower than Jan 2025?

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They won't know because they buy MSDNC's lies.


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[JoeB131]

Is it a mistake to try and fail if the other option was just to give up without trying?


Further more, it depends how HOW the failure happens. If Trump gets his way, tariffs, and the rest of the world just sort of deals with the change, and some manufacturers try, but it still fails and the overall trends don't change? Then YES, I will admit we were wrong and the policy was a bad idea.

If Trump fails becasue the rest of the world is just too strongly opposed, and chooses to take the hit rather than give an inch to US manufacturing? Then, no, that was trying and losing because the other guys were just too strong or too determined. It doesn't prove the idea BAD.


If Trump fails because the dems crush it in the midterms and he spends the rest of his term fighting them in bullshit partisan shit, then no, that's him and his plans being sabotaged. In that case, we come back with vance and try again.

Guy, you won't admit Trump's failures no matter how bad he fails. it will ALWAYS be someone else's fault.

The thing is, we don't need to "try" tariffs to see if they will work, we already know they won't. Look up Smoot-Hawley if you have any questions.

Tariffs won't make up for the biggest problem. US manufacturing is too inefficient, and making Chinese products more expensive for the consumer won't encourage them to fix the inefficiencies.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The Chinese have out competed us fairly. They produce better consumer goods at reasonable prices.

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With slave labor.

But then, dems don't flinch at that idea.




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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The Chinese have fairly paid off our politicians
The Chinese have fairly dumped toxic chemicals
The Chinese have fairly used Child labor

You must be a 10 year old boy who has not bought the cheap junk made in China.

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By a 10 year old slave.


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[JohnDB]

Guy, you won't admit Trump's failures no matter how bad he fails. it will ALWAYS be someone else's fault.

The thing is, we don't need to "try" tariffs to see if they will work, we already know they won't. Look up Smoot-Hawley if you have any questions.

Tariffs won't make up for the biggest problem. US manufacturing is too inefficient, and making Chinese products more expensive for the consumer won't encourage them to fix the inefficiencies.

If you wish to discuss the errors....
Then discuss those and stop with the over the top rhetoric.

We are MORE THAN willing to discuss what Trump has gotten wrong so far...but YOU are too busy hyperventilating over Trump doing as promised...and so the mistakes do not get discussed.

 

[Correll]

This report also says Trump omitted context, it was in my earlier post but you apparently didn't read it.

Fact-checking Trump on the February jobs numbers

President Donald Trump took a victory lap after the release of February’s monthly job figures, which showed a gain of 15

www.politifact.com

Trump looks to be basically correct. These are encouraging initial numbers.

The right thing here for you to do, is to admit that, express your doubt that it is becaused of Trump's policies this quickly, and express your doubt that it will continue.


And then promise that if the trend does continue, that you will celebrate your fellow American's good fortunes, and admit that Trump's policies worked and adjust your positions accordingly.

 

[JoeB131]

If you wish to discuss the errors....
Then discuss those and stop with the over the top rhetoric.

We are MORE THAN willing to discuss what Trump has gotten wrong so far...but YOU are too busy hyperventilating over Trump doing as promised...and so the mistakes do not get discussed.

But what he wants to do is stupid and will wreck the economy.

I'm sorry you don't get that.

You supported the guy who was screaming, "They're eating the dogs..they're eating the cats!" and now you want to decry "over the top rhetoric?

 

[Hector12]

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With slave labor.

But then, dems don't flinch at that idea.




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My detractors here are inventing stupid excuses for the fact that the Chinse do things better than we do. Chinese Americans do things better too. Have you ever sat in a classroom with one?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

My detractors here are inventing stupid excuses for the fact that the Chinse do things better than we do. Chinese Americans do things better too. Have you ever sat in a classroom with one?

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With slave labor.




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[Hector12]

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With slave labor.




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Chinese who produce the consumer goods I like to buy are not slaves; they are employees.

 

[JohnDB]

But what he wants to do is stupid and will wreck the economy.

I'm sorry you don't get that.

You supported the guy who was screaming, "They're eating the dogs..they're eating the cats!" and now you want to decry "over the top rhetoric?

I want reasoned and honest discussion that discusses the real mistakes and not rhetoric that places party loyalty over good things our country needs.

And there have already been mistakes made....and they are going completely ignored.

 

[JoeB131]

I want reasoned and honest discussion that discusses the real mistakes and not rhetoric that places party loyalty over good things our country needs.

And there have already been mistakes made....and they are going completely ignored.

The mistake was putting Trump in charge.
The man has no business in elected office.

this is what happens when you stop taking civics seriously.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Chinese who produce the consumer goods I like to buy are not slaves; they are employees.

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Prove that no slave labor was ever used to make anything you've ever bought.




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[Sherlock Holmes]

Trump looks to be basically correct. These are encouraging initial numbers.

Well I don't really see that, as I said the context (which is elaborated in that article - and others) show that Biden "created" about 750,000 manufacturing jobs during his term, contrast what Trump says with that, not with the numbers from Biden's last year alone. So they numbers are not encouraging, at least I'd need to see what underpins that claim, should we compare the number of manufacturing jobs created during the first 45 days of each administration over the years? because unless one does that one is not doing a meaningful assessment of the numbers.

Why not simply compare Biden/Trump on the numbers for their first terms? Biden - +750,000 and Trump -200,000.

Was that not encouraging?

https://www.bluegreenalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Then-and-Now-US-Manufacturing-Under-the-Trump-and-Biden-Harris-Admnistrations.pdf

The right thing here for you to do, is to admit that, express your doubt that it is because of Trump's policies this quickly, and express your doubt that it will continue.

I do suspect that the numbers spouted by Trump are largely unattributable to trump, it's obvious that the creation of thousands of manufacturing jobs (and he refers only to auto manufacturing jobs by the way) requires months of strategizing, investment, planning and preparation so it's pretty clear to me that these are - at best - loosely coupled to anything trump has done this year and are the result of prior months of preparation.

And then promise that if the trend does continue, that you will celebrate your fellow American's good fortunes, and admit that Trump's policies worked and adjust your positions accordingly.

The good fortunes of 9,000 people that's probably nothing to do with trump pales in significance to the loss of jobs under trump in just a few weeks, USPS alone is destined to lose 10,000 jobs and that is directly a result of trump's polices as we all know.

Basically trump has chosen an isolated statistical change that is being characterized as a validation of trump's policies, it's actually unrepresentative of trump, in reality trump is turning the country into an oligarchy, that's the real news here but trumpanzees are in denial.

trump is trying to extrapolate from some arbitrary positive looking statistics to argue that therefore his policies are working and doing good for the American people, the outrage at many republican town halls though flies in the face of that.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

With all due respect to President Donald Trump, I ask all my fellow Americans this questions. When are the Jobs supposed to be returning from China.?!!??. Everythng I buy now, is made in China.!! President Trump, during his campaign , promised to bring many Jobs back to America, from China.? !!
There is a company called Norinco, They make the worlds most popular weapon , AK-47 rifle. Where are those factories?? Your thoughts.??!!!

If this was a state Trump was governor of, all of his new programs would only take a month or two after being initiated, before we the people started seeing any benefits from them.

Seeing as Trump is President of an entire nation, including its managed properties like the Bahamas and Puerto Rico........things take time to dribble down the line.

In 2025, Trump is cutting waste from ALL government positions, offices, and organizations. This in itself takes time.
He will be doing this the entire year of 2025.

In 2026 we will start to see the effects of his new policies. And by the end of 2028, we will be benefiting from most of his policy changes........but not all of them, because a lot of them take more time. But at least he has initiated them.

TIME is what is needed here. And it's unfortunate for WE THE PEOPLE, because we need help NOW.
But it is what it is.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

This is why companies moved production facilities OUTSIDE the USA.

 

[JoeB131]

If this was a state Trump was governor of, all of his new programs would only take a month or two after being initiated, before we the people started seeing any benefits from them.

Seeing as Trump is President of an entire nation, including its managed properties like the Bahamas and Puerto Rico........things take time to dribble down the line.

In 2025, Trump is cutting waste from ALL government positions, offices, and organizations. This in itself takes time.
He will be doing this the entire year of 2025.

In 2026 we will start to see the effects of his new policies. And by the end of 2028, we will be benefiting from most of his policy changes........but not all of them, because a lot of them take more time. But at least he has initiated them.

TIME is what is needed here. And it's unfortunate for WE THE PEOPLE, because we need help NOW.
But it is what it is.

The Bahamas aren't managed by the US, they are an independent country in the British Commonwealth.

I wish that was the end of your misinformation, but it isn't.

NOTHING TRUMP IS DOING WILL END WELL.

Firing thousands of government workers will just make government services less efficient and increase unemployment.

By 2026, this country will be in full-blown recession, and Democrats will be winning seats in Red States and Districts.

 

[JohnDB]

The mistake was putting Trump in charge.
The man has no business in elected office.

this is what happens when you stop taking civics seriously.