Where, and When, are the jobs coming back from China,?!!?? Every thing I buy now is made in China??!!

[elektra]

The Chinese have out competed us fairly. They produce better consumer goods at reasonable prprices.

The Chinese have fairly paid off our politicians
The Chinese have fairly dumped toxic chemicals
The Chinese have fairly used Child labor

You must be a 10 year old boy who has not bought the cheap junk made in China.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

With all due respect to President Donald Trump, I ask all my fellow Americans this questions. When are the Jobs supposed to be returning from China.?!!??. Everythng I buy now, is made in China.!! President Trump, during his campaign , promised to bring many Jobs back to America, from China.? !!
There is a company called Norinco, They make the worlds most popular weapon , AK-47 rifle. Where are those factories?? Your thoughts.??!!!

That would probably on happen when wages in the US fall to such a level that they allow domestically manufactured products to be cheaper than foreign imports.

You can either lower wages or impose tariffs to make domestic products more attractively priced but that's a form of tax anyway and ultimately therefore lowers earnings, either way, the man in the street must accept a reduction in overall wealth and prosperity if we want to eliminate cheaper foreign products.

We should not be competing for manufacturing jobs, instead we should exploit what were better at, manufacturing is not going to come back without a lot of pain, so why bother with it...

Our government should be seeking to improve on our strengths, identify sensible ways of competing where we are truly competitive, all this talk of "bring back manufacturing" is ridiculous, naive and doomed to fail, but the trumpanzees won't understand that, they only hear what they want to hear.

 

[marvin martian]

Weird. Did something happen in 2020 that caused people to lose jobs?

 

[Hector12]

The Chinese have fairly paid off our politicians
The Chinese have fairly dumped toxic chemicals
The Chinese have fairly used Child labor

You must be a 10 year old boy who has not bought the cheap junk made in China.

Each of those assertions need to be documented.

 

[elektra]

Each of those assertions need to be documented.

Because you are ignorant?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

With all due respect to President Donald Trump, I ask all my fellow Americans this questions. When are the Jobs supposed to be returning from China.?!!??. Everythng I buy now, is made in China.!! President Trump, during his campaign , promised to bring many Jobs back to America, from China.? !!
There is a company called Norinco, They make the worlds most popular weapon , AK-47 rifle. Where are those factories?? Your thoughts.??!!!

That is your choice and your problem.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Factories are not an overnight thing.
Depending upon the size, employees and etc several surveys have to be done.

And it's the usual.
Unemployment rate in the area?
Job skill level the factory will require.
(Human resources available)

Water resources
Land resources
Power resources
Transportation valuable?
Supply chain availability in that area? Can I get raw materials?

Now providing that all those questions come back with favorable answers...

Then it's time for engineers to site survey properties with those other questions in mind. (Don't want to build on top of a sink hole) And then industrial architects to plan out the building. Machinery might be needed and ordered. (Years out from delivery)

Then if the local state and County officials can cut a decent tax deal to get the new facility....the general contractor is chosen and they begin putting out contracts to bid on. Once those are awarded meetings are held with the contractors starting roughly a year before breaking ground. (Underground resources like water and sewage and power have to be planned carefully. )

Then once ground is broken.....Depending on the size of the facility....18-24 months later the factory opens up to produce whatever.

You mentioned guns. Steel fab both mild steel and cold rolled. Thats actually not a very complicated production and can fit a small plant in a "industrial park" warehouse looking building. A couple of lathes and CNC mills and viola....its making guns and employs a few dozen people.
Maybe a retail store somewhere in a shopping strip in a nearby big city. ALL done inside of 12 months.

But....that's not what we want.

We need power generation big time. Where the EPA has just been handcuffed and some mothballed coal plants are now allowed to be restored and burning...we don't need the juice yet.

We need silicone refineries for chips. (Not a small chemical plant)
We need Steel beams for factories meaning steel plants brought back or built.
Sheet steel, tube steel, and other A-10 steel. corrugated steel used for shipping containers.... we need that kind too for walls and roofs. Steel grates for flooring at Chem plants. Then the pipes.... (Paint, coatings, resins, lubricants, seals.

We have a LOT to do before any of it can happen.

If I asked you what time it was, I didn't ask for instructions on how to build a watch. You answered your own damned question with that post!

 

[Hector12]

Because you are ignorant?

Because you are too ignorant to back up what you say.

I document my assertions. Document yours.

 

[Correll]

That would probably on happen when wages in the US fall to such a level that they allow domestically manufactured products to be cheaper than foreign imports.

You can either lower wages or impose tariffs to make domestic products more attractively priced but that's a form of tax anyway and ultimately therefore lowers earnings, either way, the man in the street must accept a reduction in overall wealth and prosperity if we want to eliminate cheaper foreign products.

We should not be competing for manufacturing jobs, instead we should exploit what were better at, manufacturing is not going to come back without a lot of pain, so why bother with it...

Our government should be seeking to improve on our strengths, identify sensible ways of competing where we are truly competitive, all this talk of "bring back manufacturing" is ridiculous, naive and doomed to fail, but the trumpanzees won't understand that, they only hear what they want to hear.

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You sure about that?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You sure about that?

Trump is a habitual liar so why do you expect me to take his claims as meaningful? Have you done any due diligence here? What are the actual relevance of the S&P numbers he cites? did you check what he claimed? do you ever check what he claims???

He said

during the last year the Biden Administration saw a loss of more than 110,000 manufacturing jobs

But he didn't tell you that during Biden's entire term manufacturing jobs increased 750,000 jobs!

It is these kinds of sanitized, out of context and misleading stats that Trump is infamous for, he rattles of stats out of context and avoids other stats (like the one above) that might undermine his desperate attempts to receive praise from his devotees.

Where is the evidence that any of the stats he mentions are in any way the result of actions he has taken? You are just assuming that because the changes occur while he is president then he must be given credit for it, that's dumb, that's absolutely unscientific.

I mean you (and other trumpanzees here) never blame him for anything negative that happens under his presidency, you blame others, the "dems" or Biden, anything undesirable is always nothing to do with Trump and everything positive must be due to Trump !

You trumpanzees just lap up whatever he says, you never cross check, you never verify or scrutinize you simply trust every word that comes out of his mouth, it's a cult.

This is my source for the 750,000 claim in case your wondering.

Donald Trump Is Going to Destroy American Manufacturing

Bidenomics created a manufacturing boom. Trump is tearing that up by the roots.

prospect.org

and here's another source, look:

"During the last year, the Biden administration saw a loss of more than 110,000 manufacturing jobs, or 9,000 manufacturing jobs every single month."

This needs context.

These figures are correct for the final year of Biden’s term, but the statistic ignores that during the first three years of Biden’s tenure, manufacturing employment rose by 721,000. Some of the increase reflected the comeback from pandemic-era job losses. Biden’s final monthly manufacturing jobs number was still 12,000 higher than in February 2020, the last prepandemic month under Trump’s first presidency.

Fact-checking Trump on the February jobs numbers

President Donald Trump took a victory lap after the release of February’s monthly job figures, which showed a gain of 15

www.politifact.com

Any one of you can do what I just did, simple, elementary due diligence, and you should be doing this no matter who is president. But you don't, you just don't care for truth, you care only about adulation for the cult leader, you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Moonglow]

Weird. Did something happen in 2020 that caused people to lose jobs?

Yeah, Trump paid us to stay at home.

 

[Kruska]

With all due respect to President Donald Trump, I ask all my fellow Americans this questions. When are the Jobs supposed to be returning from China.?!!??. Everythng I buy now, is made in China.!! President Trump, during his campaign , promised to bring many Jobs back to America, from China.? !!
There is a company called Norinco, They make the worlds most popular weapon , AK-47 rifle. Where are those factories?? Your thoughts.??!!!

WHAT ???
Trump had already promised this in his first stint - so they are ALL back already. Wake up dude!!
Haven't you noticed??
Maybe you can ask those MAGA morons to show them to you.

 

[Hector12]

That would probably on happen when wages in the US fall to such a level that they allow domestically manufactured products to be cheaper than foreign imports.

You can either lower wages or impose tariffs to make domestic products more attractively priced but that's a form of tax anyway and ultimately therefore lowers earnings, either way, the man in the street must accept a reduction in overall wealth and prosperity if we want to eliminate cheaper foreign products.

We should not be competing for manufacturing jobs, instead we should exploit what were better at, manufacturing is not going to come back without a lot of pain, so why bother with it...

Our government should be seeking to improve on our strengths, identify sensible ways of competing where we are truly competitive, all this talk of "bring back manufacturing" is ridiculous, naive and doomed to fail, but the trumpanzees won't understand that, they only hear what they want to hear.

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[elektra]

Because you are too ignorant to back up what you say.

I document my assertions. Document yours.

The Chinese have out competed us fairly. They produce better consumer goods at reasonable prices.

Document your assertion, you demanded I document my response to you, your rule, you go first.

Document your assertion

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Of course, all of this is moot if democrats seize power. They will stifle any further trump progress and then, with control of the executive, they’ll reverse all progress just as they did during the Biden cabal.
Democrats are America’s greatest economic threat.

 

[Hector12]

Document your assertion, you demanded I document my response to you, your rule, you go first.

Document your assertion

The proof of my assertion is in every department store.

 

[Correll]

Trump is a habitual liar so why do you expect me to take his claims as meaningful? Have you done any due diligence here? What are the actual relevance of the S&P numbers he cites? did you check what he claimed? do you ever check what he claims???

He said



But he didn't tell you that during Biden's entire term manufacturing jobs increased 750,000 jobs!

It is these kinds of sanitized, out of context and misleading stats that Trump is infamous for, he rattles of stats out of context and avoids other stats (like the one above) that might undermine his desperate attempts to receive praise from his devotees.

Where is the evidence that any of the stats he mentions are in any way the result of actions he has taken? You are just assuming that because the changes occur while he is president then he must be given credit for it, that's dumb, that's absolutely unscientific.

I mean you (and other trumpanzees here) never blame him for anything negative that happens under his presidency, you blame others, the "dems" or Biden, anything undesirable is always nothing to do with Trump and everything positive must be due to Trump !

You trumpanzees just lap up whatever he says, you never cross check, you never verify or scrutinize you simply trust every word that comes out of his mouth, it's a cult.

This is my source for the 750,000 claim in case your wondering.

Donald Trump Is Going to Destroy American Manufacturing

Bidenomics created a manufacturing boom. Trump is tearing that up by the roots.

prospect.org

and here's another source, look:

"During the last year, the Biden administration saw a loss of more than 110,000 manufacturing jobs, or 9,000 manufacturing jobs every single month."

Fact-checking Trump on the February jobs numbers

President Donald Trump took a victory lap after the release of February’s monthly job figures, which showed a gain of 15

www.politifact.com

Any one of you can do what I just did, simple, elementary due diligence, and you should be doing this no matter who is president. But you don't, you just don't care for truth, you care only about adulation for the cult leader, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Your numbers are the ones that ignore the context, specifically hte context that biden took over after the shutdown of covid and those jobs were part of the natural bounce back from the pandemic.


YOU are thus the one playing games with stats.


The reality is that Trump is doing a good faith effort at his campaign promise of a jobs focused trade policy.


And initial numbers are encouraging.


You can talk shit right now. But by the mid terms, we will have an idea whether or not his polices are working or not.


you ready to deal with reality, or you planning to shit talk if things are going well for America?

 

[elektra]

The proof of my assertion is in every department store.

Then your assertion proves Chinese products are junk. Department stores been going bankrupt selling inferior made Chinese products.

The Marxist Chinese need not make a profit. Marxism has nothing to do with success in the terms of making profits and selling good products.

Proof, closed department stores across the country

 

[Hector12]

Your numbers are the ones that ignore the context, specifically hte context that biden took over after the shutdown of covid and those jobs were part of the natural bounce back from the pandemic.


YOU are thus the one playing games with stats.


The reality is that Trump is doing a good faith effort at his campaign promise of a jobs focused trade policy.


And initial numbers are encouraging.


You can talk shit right now. But by the mid terms, we will have an idea whether or not his polices are working or not.


you ready to deal with reality, or you planning to shit talk if things are going well for America?

Are you willing to admit you are mistaken if things are not going well for America?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Your numbers are the ones that ignore the context, specifically hte context that biden took over after the shutdown of covid and those jobs were part of the natural bounce back from the pandemic.


YOU are thus the one playing games with stats.


The reality is that Trump is doing a good faith effort at his campaign promise of a jobs focused trade policy.


And initial numbers are encouraging.


You can talk shit right now. But by the mid terms, we will have an idea whether or not his polices are working or not.


you ready to deal with reality, or you planning to shit talk if things are going well for America?

This report also says Trump omitted context, it was in my earlier post but you apparently didn't read it.

Fact-checking Trump on the February jobs numbers

President Donald Trump took a victory lap after the release of February’s monthly job figures, which showed a gain of 15

www.politifact.com