Zone1 When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past? Pt. 2

[Lisa558]

Meh...it's black males committing all the crimes,age doesnt have a whole lot to do with it.

Not really. It isn’t 50-year-olds and up who are committing the crime. It’s overwhelmingly black males 16 to 35. They account for around 3% of the population.

 

[Unkotare]

Has anyone EVER seen IM2 post about ANYTHING other than his hatred of white people and his deep devotion to being a victim? EVER?

 

[Yarddog]

Look, you and the rest keep telling us how you are not to be blamed for the past. While you're doing that disingenuous whining we see the same attitudes now that you say ended with your ancestors. So when does that stop?

you never saw a black person with a bad attitude huh? but if you see a white person with an attitude you deem to be wrong.... it all comes together for you right? It means they are equal to a slave owner or a person who would lynch or deny civil rights to some one.
Anyone who is absorbed and hung up on race, only sees what they want to see... your not immune to that.

 

[Yarddog]

Has anyone EVER seen IM2 post about ANYTHING other than his hatred of white people and his deep devotion to being a victim? EVER?

no. actually your right. I've never seen him post in music.... or food... humor... any of the other topics.
Sometimes though we all may disagree it's still nice to have something to share... which is part of being human. Or at least making the attempt to be.

 

[beautress]

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• Afghanistan (cause: Taliban)
• Central African Republic
• Iraq
• Libya
• Mali
• Somalia
• South Sudan
• Syria
• Ukraine
• Yemen

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• DR Congo
• Egypt
• Nigeria
• Pakistan

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Has anyone EVER seen IM2 post about ANYTHING other than his hatred of white people and his deep devotion to being a victim? EVER?

Aw, he's just a little bitter, Unkotare. Someday, he will realize that equality with others has a there there. He won't be bitter anymore when that day arrives, and optimist that I am, I think that day will come sooner than later.

 

[MizMolly]

In August of 1896, a book titled The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro, written by Frederick Hoffman, hit the streets of America.. Hoffman was a statistician for Prudential Insurance. He wrote the book to justify higher life insurance premiums charged to African Americans at that time. Here is his reason:

“All the tables for various states and cities confirm the census data and show without exception that the criminality of the negro exceeds that of any other race of any numerical importance in this country.”

In this book, Hoffman used the racial proportion argument to base his claims of black criminality. His claim was that due to traits inherent to blacks, the black race was dying off faster, was more violent, committed more crime, and had a higher rate of illegitimate birth rates than whites. Please remember that his study was published in 1896, and in 1896, black codes, vagrancy laws, and convict leasing were in full effect. But that didn’t matter to Hoffman; blacks simply had a natural propensity for crime and immoral behavior.

He presented what is now the age-old claim of high black violent crime, illegitimacy and rape. Never mind that in 1896 a black person could get accused of crimes they did not commit, get arrested, tried, and found guilty even when evidence showed they were innocent of the crime. He even denies that race had anything to do with lynchings. Black leaders of that time almost immediately criticized his findings.

W.E.B. DuBois wrote a scathing critique of Hoffman’s work in a review published in the January 1897 volume of “Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science.” Dubois found severe errors in Hoffman’s work. He begins by questioning the source Hoffman used for his analysis, the Eleventh Census of the United States.

“In the Eleventh Census, Mr. Hoffman expresses great faith, and thinks it as reliable as any of the previous enumerations. There nevertheless exists in the minds of many scholars grave doubts as to the accuracy of a large part of this census, and a disposition to base few important conclusions on its results. To this extent, therefore, many of Mr. Hoffman’s conclusions will be discounted. The anthropological material collected at war-time is of undoubted value, if, as Dr. Gould himself points out, the student remembers that they relate to one sex only, and to the most healthful years. Finally, in all deductions drawn from the vital statistics of large cities, the student must know that only in recent years are these figures reliable, and that they give little or no clue to conditions in the country where over three-fourths of the Negroes live.”

In his review, Dubois found numerous errors in sampling and logic. He points out Hoffman’s mistakes in understanding the impact of slavery on blacks and the response young blacks had at that time to the obstacles put in front of them due to white racism. Hoffman argued that what was happening was due to traits inherent in the black race. Dubois argued that circumstances and conditions were the cause. His argument boiled down to this: the root cause of the problems blacks faced was white racism.

Hoffman raised the issue of illegitimacy, just like some whites do today. However, Dubois contrasted the illegitimacy rates of American blacks presented by Hoffman to rates in European cities. Dubois debunked Hoffman’s claim by showing that black illegitimacy rates in the American cities Hoffman used for his study were lower than, Paris, Rome, Munich, Vienna, Stockholm, Paris, and Brussels.

Frederick Hoffman, “The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro” pg. 228, Race traits and tendencies of the American Negro : Hoffman, Frederick L. (Frederick Ludwig), 1865-1946 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

W.E.B. Du Bois, “Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro. By Frederick L. Hoffman, F.S.S.” [Review]. Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science, v. 9 (January 1897): pp.127-133., Review of Hoffman's Race Traits :: W E B Du Bois . org

So what we see here are the same beliefs about blacks that are expressed by many whites today. We read that stuff in THIS forum consistently then we get told how we should not blame whites now for what their ancestors did. Well, you guys have expressed the same beliefs as your ancestors so:

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?

Your post is from the past. When are you going to quit doing that?

 

[ninja007]

With no regard for race, sex, color or religion, here are the 10 least safe countries, revealed in the latest Travel Risk Map:

• Afghanistan (cause: Taliban)
• Central African Republic
• Iraq
• Libya
• Mali
• Somalia
• South Sudan
• Syria
• Ukraine
• Yemen

A further four countries include regions (known as Security Risk Zones) that have been rated as an ‘extreme travel security risk’.

• DR Congo
• Egypt
• Nigeria
• Pakistan

Global Peace

10 Most Dangerous Countries In The World To Avoid In 2023

The Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP) publishes the Global Peace Index (GPI) each year. 163 nations are ranked by the GPI according to how peaceful they are. Twenty-four indicators are used to measure the

www.travelinglifestyle.net

Aw, he's just a little bitter, Unkotare. Someday, he will realize that equality with others has a there there. He won't be bitter anymore when that day arrives, and optimist that I am, I think that day will come sooner than later.

safest countries are majority white, finland, sweden etc...

 

[ninja007]

The information in the report was not true in 1897. Whites were by far the most violent and criminal group then. And just like now, they could not take responsibility for their behavior.

you are not white, you cant talk about us.

 

[IM2]

you never saw a black person with a bad attitude huh? but if you see a white person with an attitude you deem to be wrong.... it all comes together for you right? It means they are equal to a slave owner or a person who would lynch or deny civil rights to some one.
Anyone who is absorbed and hung up on race, only sees what they want to see... your not immune to that.

I'm not the one who lies about people living in the past as if white racism has ended. That's my point here, not the off topic mess you posted here. What whites like you call hung up on race is us recognizing that race is still a probkem we face and if we don't face it, it doesn't stop. And it seems that whites like you want us to ignore it because you benefit from us doing so.

 

[IM2]

no. actually your right. I've never seen him post in music.... or food... humor... any of the other topics.
Sometimes though we all may disagree it's still nice to have something to share... which is part of being human. Or at least making the attempt to be.

I don't see you or unkotare opposing the racist whites here. Opposing and working to end this racism allows us to make it so we truly can share in our common humanity and not fake it.

 

[IM2]

With no regard for race, sex, color or religion, here are the 10 least safe countries, revealed in the latest Travel Risk Map:

• Afghanistan (cause: Taliban)
• Central African Republic
• Iraq
• Libya
• Mali
• Somalia
• South Sudan
• Syria
• Ukraine
• Yemen

A further four countries include regions (known as Security Risk Zones) that have been rated as an ‘extreme travel security risk’.

• DR Congo
• Egypt
• Nigeria
• Pakistan

Global Peace

10 Most Dangerous Countries In The World To Avoid In 2023

The Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP) publishes the Global Peace Index (GPI) each year. 163 nations are ranked by the GPI according to how peaceful they are. Twenty-four indicators are used to measure the

www.travelinglifestyle.net

Aw, he's just a little bitter, Unkotare. Someday, he will realize that equality with others has a there there. He won't be bitter anymore when that day arrives, and optimist that I am, I think that day will come sooner than later.

And exactly what does this have to do with the fact that many whites today have the same attitudes of their ancestors? You are one of them. I'm not bitter, lol! I laugh when someone white says that. You don't get to define my happiness. I would be bitter if I lived the way you want me to. But I am no sellout.

 

[IM2]

The question is this:

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?​

And almost every response shows a white person exhibiting the same behavior of their ancestors. Funny how the thread was created asking why blacks still live in the past and the OP gets none of this. But for someone black to ask a similar question, we get nonsense. And this has been the tradition of many whites throughout American history. Blacks who ran away from slavery had drapetomania. Blacks were happy during jim crow, it's those northern agitators, liberal whites are telling blacks that racism exists. Blacks are trained not to like whites. Blacks teach each other that whites are out to get them, and you only see race or you're hung up on race.

All of these things are ways some whites have(from the beginning of this country to right now), allowed themselves to deny the fact that the problem is not blacks being hung up on race, it is whites who are practicing racism.

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?​

 

[petro]

Has anyone EVER seen IM2 post about ANYTHING other than his hatred of white people and his deep devotion to being a victim? EVER?

 

[BackAgain]

In August of 1896, a book titled The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro, written by Frederick Hoffman, hit the streets of America.. Hoffman was a statistician for Prudential Insurance. He wrote the book to justify higher life insurance premiums charged to African Americans at that time. Here is his reason:

“All the tables for various states and cities confirm the census data and show without exception that the criminality of the negro exceeds that of any other race of any numerical importance in this country.”

In this book, Hoffman used the racial proportion argument to base his claims of black criminality. His claim was that due to traits inherent to blacks, the black race was dying off faster, was more violent, committed more crime, and had a higher rate of illegitimate birth rates than whites. Please remember that his study was published in 1896, and in 1896, black codes, vagrancy laws, and convict leasing were in full effect. But that didn’t matter to Hoffman; blacks simply had a natural propensity for crime and immoral behavior.

He presented what is now the age-old claim of high black violent crime, illegitimacy and rape. Never mind that in 1896 a black person could get accused of crimes they did not commit, get arrested, tried, and found guilty even when evidence showed they were innocent of the crime. He even denies that race had anything to do with lynchings. Black leaders of that time almost immediately criticized his findings.

W.E.B. DuBois wrote a scathing critique of Hoffman’s work in a review published in the January 1897 volume of “Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science.” Dubois found severe errors in Hoffman’s work. He begins by questioning the source Hoffman used for his analysis, the Eleventh Census of the United States.

“In the Eleventh Census, Mr. Hoffman expresses great faith, and thinks it as reliable as any of the previous enumerations. There nevertheless exists in the minds of many scholars grave doubts as to the accuracy of a large part of this census, and a disposition to base few important conclusions on its results. To this extent, therefore, many of Mr. Hoffman’s conclusions will be discounted. The anthropological material collected at war-time is of undoubted value, if, as Dr. Gould himself points out, the student remembers that they relate to one sex only, and to the most healthful years. Finally, in all deductions drawn from the vital statistics of large cities, the student must know that only in recent years are these figures reliable, and that they give little or no clue to conditions in the country where over three-fourths of the Negroes live.”

In his review, Dubois found numerous errors in sampling and logic. He points out Hoffman’s mistakes in understanding the impact of slavery on blacks and the response young blacks had at that time to the obstacles put in front of them due to white racism. Hoffman argued that what was happening was due to traits inherent in the black race. Dubois argued that circumstances and conditions were the cause. His argument boiled down to this: the root cause of the problems blacks faced was white racism.

Hoffman raised the issue of illegitimacy, just like some whites do today. However, Dubois contrasted the illegitimacy rates of American blacks presented by Hoffman to rates in European cities. Dubois debunked Hoffman’s claim by showing that black illegitimacy rates in the American cities Hoffman used for his study were lower than, Paris, Rome, Munich, Vienna, Stockholm, Paris, and Brussels.

Frederick Hoffman, “The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro” pg. 228, Race traits and tendencies of the American Negro : Hoffman, Frederick L. (Frederick Ludwig), 1865-1946 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

W.E.B. Du Bois, “Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro. By Frederick L. Hoffman, F.S.S.” [Review]. Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science, v. 9 (January 1897): pp.127-133., Review of Hoffman's Race Traits :: W E B Du Bois . org

So what we see here are the same beliefs about blacks that are expressed by many whites today. We read that stuff in THIS forum consistently then we get told how we should not blame whites now for what their ancestors did. Well, you guys have expressed the same beliefs as your ancestors so:

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?

Well hell. You know how those white people are.

 

[BackAgain]

Has anyone EVER seen IM2 post about ANYTHING other than his hatred of white people and his deep devotion to being a victim? EVER?

No.

 

[Esdraelon]

OP, they won't stop, until they're stopped.

That's coming soon, don't worry.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Feel free to let it rain...

 

[IM2]

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Another white poster from 1923.

Say what you say to me to whites.

 

[beautress]

OP, they won't stop, until they're stopped.

That's coming soon, don't worry.

"They?" Are you referring to men with dark skin who are killing each other off? Or are you referring to men with both light and dark colored skin who will not let murderers over a few dollars of money who get put in prisons for their crimes against other men freedom to continue their killing sprees? Street justice requires a considerable amount of disrespect for the rule of law, my dear brother, Mr. MarcATL. You are aware the leadership of the Democrat Party is shooting for chaos so its deep state leaders can kill at will without reprisal using the taxpayer-funded FBI, Secret Service, and CIA to damage anyone who crosses them in mere debate about obeying laws written by the majority of the peoples' representatives? And the majority of men of color are losing faith in the wannabe Communist dictators, most of whom claim they represent the underdogs, when in actuality they own 5 or 6 mansions, that cost millions a year to upkeep, and get dumb taxpayers to protect them for their crimes against the people which they hide until dementia loosens their tongues once dedicated to strict propaganda to prevent average people from knowing the truth that their crimes cause everyone else who commits them to go to jail, don't you? Communists have a tendency to murder people they used to get an agreement of the majority, and those who stole votes? Do you know how easy that would be to put their choices of old back into practice to destroy the black race? Remember Joe Biden? He hated busing children of color to better schools than they had before, and he worked hand in hand with men of Ku Klux Klan antics, did not march with Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, and Protestant majorities who believed in equal rights for every man regardless of color. People of the deep state have their eye on the ball, and the ball is the United States Treasury and using it for themselves like Joe Biden did when he screwed the Ukraine out of a billion dollars Congress gave them to fight off the Russians, and used the people's Air Force Two to transfer the cash back to his comfortable Vice Presidential mansion for counting and putting the money where nobody could follow what happened to that billion dollars that was there because of the millions of American taxpayers who sacrificed a chunk of their middle class paychecks who trusted Vice President Joe Biden to do the right thing. He did not. What makes you think this anti-black poseur is going to help the people he attempted to slam in the face of impoverished scholarship for people of color and the best of the best schools for racially white people who scratched his back whenever he itched for more, more, and more money from the United States Treasury by way of the IRS collectors? I hope we can one day again be one people, regardless of skin color. That was a good man's ambition, and he died for it. His name was Dr. Martin Luther King. His vision was to see little children of all races walking hand in hand to have a fair shot at the American dream. He paid for his opinion with a bullet from people Biden supported for year after year after year. You think he's doing anything but painting pretty pictures for people he hated on for a lifetime? You might think that over once more, because words do not sway you. Do deeds? Oh, really?

One other thing: where do you think that $31 billion dollars the National Debt has gone to? Making highways safer? If it gets that good, keep in mind the price we paid to make Joe Biden and everyone in his clan mega millionnaires and himself a trillionnaire if accounts in Swiss banks and offshore meccas were known. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. You're setting yourself up for a fall into an abyss of lies. Please chill down some and keep in mind middle class America is not interested in being government poor so Joe Biden can hide his crimes in 5 different places, not to mention his egomaniacal Joe Biden museums Joe has bought for his edification to hide his egregious crimes of greed for the US Treasury's contents going to fluff him and not the people of the United States, half of whom he accused a month or so back of being "fascists," when in truth, we're just average middle class Americans who were not born with a silver spoon in their mouths. You're a smart man, Mr. MarcATL. I hope wisdom becomes part of you when you realize who you're trusting, and the first time you realize that the jerk in the White House is only fluffing people who go for broke supporting him, and not the masses of American citizens. When you have mercy on the body of the American people, you will find out that like those of us who took up the fight to bring equality into the focus of the nation, we were then and are now loving Americans of the Republican Party, whose spiritual forbears fought a war to free this nation from its hideous generational slavery of people based on the color of their skin, and not the content of their character. I don't mind if you make new friends, Mr. MarcAtl, but I hope you keep your old friends who spilled their own blood so you could speak freely and choose your own way based on your own experiences. In the sincerest brotherly Love, beautress.

 

[MarcATL]

"They?" Are you referring to men with dark skin who are killing each other off? Or are you referring to men with both light and dark colored skin who will not let murderers over a few dollars of money who get put in prisons for their crimes against other men freedom to continue their killing sprees? Street justice requires a considerable amount of disrespect for the rule of law, my dear brother, Mr. MarcATL. You are aware the leadership of the Democrat Party is shooting for chaos so its deep state leaders can kill at will without reprisal using the taxpayer-funded FBI, Secret Service, and CIA to damage anyone who crosses them in mere debate about obeying laws written by the majority of the peoples' representatives? And the majority of men of color are losing faith in the wannabe Communist dictators, most of whom claim they represent the underdogs, when in actuality they own 5 or 6 mansions, that cost millions a year to upkeep, and get dumb taxpayers to protect them for their crimes against the people which they hide until dementia loosens their tongues once dedicated to strict propaganda to prevent average people from knowing the truth that their crimes cause everyone else who commits them to go to jail, don't you? Communists have a tendency to murder people they used to get an agreement of the majority, and those who stole votes? Do you know how easy that would be to put their choices of old back into practice to destroy the black race? Remember Joe Biden? He hated busing children of color to better schools than they had before, and he worked hand in hand with men of Ku Klux Klan antics, did not march with Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, and Protestant majorities who believed in equal rights for every man regardless of color. People of the deep state have their eye on the ball, and the ball is the United States Treasury and using it for themselves like Joe Biden did when he screwed the Ukraine out of a billion dollars Congress gave them to fight off the Russians, and used the people's Air Force Two to transfer the cash back to his comfortable Vice Presidential mansion for counting and putting the money where nobody could follow what happened to that billion dollars that was there because of the millions of American taxpayers who sacrificed a chunk of their middle class paychecks who trusted Vice President Joe Biden to do the right thing. He did not. What makes you think this anti-black poseur is going to help the people he attempted to slam in the face of impoverished scholarship for people of color and the best of the best schools for racially white people who scratched his back whenever he itched for more, more, and more money from the United States Treasury by way of the IRS collectors? I hope we can one day again be one people, regardless of skin color. That was a good man's ambition, and he died for it. His name was Dr. Martin Luther King. His vision was to see little children of all races walking hand in hand to have a fair shot at the American dream. He paid for his opinion with a bullet from people Biden supported for year after year after year. You think he's doing anything but painting pretty pictures for people he hated on for a lifetime? You might think that over once more, because words do not sway you. Do deeds? Oh, really?

One other thing: where do you think that $31 billion dollars the National Debt has gone to? Making highways safer? If it gets that good, keep in mind the price we paid to make Joe Biden and everyone in his clan mega millionnaires and himself a trillionnaire if accounts in Swiss banks and offshore meccas were known. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. You're setting yourself up for a fall into an abyss of lies. Please chill down some and keep in mind middle class America is not interested in being government poor so Joe Biden can hide his crimes in 5 different places, not to mention his egomaniacal Joe Biden museums Joe has bought for his edification to hide his egregious crimes of greed for the US Treasury's contents going to fluff him and not the people of the United States, half of whom he accused a month or so back of being "fascists," when in truth, we're just average middle class Americans who were not born with a silver spoon in their mouths. You're a smart man, Mr. MarcATL. I hope wisdom becomes part of you when you realize who you're trusting, and the first time you realize that the jerk in the White House is only fluffing people who go for broke supporting him, and not the masses of American citizens. When you have mercy on the body of the American people, you will find out that like those of us who took up the fight to bring equality into the focus of the nation, we were then and are now loving Americans of the Republican Party, whose spiritual forbears fought a war to free this nation from its hideous generational slavery of people based on the color of their skin, and not the content of their character. I don't mind if you make new friends, Mr. MarcAtl, but I hope you keep your old friends who spilled their own blood so you could speak freely and choose your own way based on your own experiences. In the sincerest brotherly Love, beautress.

"One day once again?!!??"

When was America ever united with black Americans who they've been abusing in some way, form or fashion since they brought them over from Africa in chains?

Tell me.

 

[MarcATL]

Pray tell, by murder or pity? Love, beautress.

The question is rather, are you going to be a part of putting a stop to it or part of being stopped, hmmm?!??