Zone1 When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past? Pt. 2

[Unkotare]

The question is rather, are you going to be a part of putting a stop to it or part of being stopped, hmmm?!??

The question is what are YOU doing about it now?

 

[MarcATL]

The question is this:

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?​

And almost every response shows a white person exhibiting the same behavior of their ancestors. Funny how the thread was created asking why blacks still live in the past and the OP gets none of this. But for someone black to ask a similar question, we get nonsense. And this has been the tradition of many whites throughout American history. Blacks who ran away from slavery had drapetomania. Blacks were happy during jim crow, it's those northern agitators, liberal whites are telling blacks that racism exists. Blacks are trained not to like whites. Blacks teach each other that whites are out to get them, and you only see race or you're hung up on race.

All of these things are ways some whites have(from the beginning of this country to right now), allowed themselves to deny the fact that the problem is not blacks being hung up on race, it is whites who are practicing racism.

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?​

Facts!

 

[MarcATL]

The question is what are YOU doing about it now?

Working towards putting a stop to it. And yourself?

 

[Lisa558]

Working towards putting a stop to it. And yourself?

Are you working to put a stop toward antisemitism? Jews are more likely to be victims of hate crimes than blacks.

The irony of this whole thing is that blacks demand whites stop being racist while they themselves are more likely to be antisemitic.

 

[Unkotare]

Working towards putting a stop to it. ....

How exactly?

 

[MizMolly]

The question is this:

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?​

And almost every response shows a white person exhibiting the same behavior of their ancestors. Funny how the thread was created asking why blacks still live in the past and the OP gets none of this. But for someone black to ask a similar question, we get nonsense. And this has been the tradition of many whites throughout American history. Blacks who ran away from slavery had drapetomania. Blacks were happy during jim crow, it's those northern agitators, liberal whites are telling blacks that racism exists. Blacks are trained not to like whites. Blacks teach each other that whites are out to get them, and you only see race or you're hung up on race.

All of these things are ways some whites have(from the beginning of this country to right now), allowed themselves to deny the fact that the problem is not blacks being hung up on race, it is whites who are practicing racism.

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?​

Which white people? Not all white people act, think, behave the same. It’s your imagination to think that white people today do the same things SOME white people did in the past. When are you going to stop posting things from the past, since it is NOT happening today?

 

[MizMolly]

Are you working to put a stop toward antisemitism? Jews are more likely to be victims of hate crimes than blacks.

The irony of this whole thing is that blacks demand whites stop being racist while they themselves are more likely to be antisemitic.

Some black posters expect all whites to put an end to white racism, even when they aren’t in any way, shape or form connected to racism.

 

[Lisa558]

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This forum was created to allow him to do that without anyone fighting back.

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Black Privilege.

 

[Unkotare]

Working towards putting a stop to it. ...

How exactly?

 

[Failzero]

"One day once again?!!??"

When was America ever united with black Americans who they've been abusing in some way, form or fashion since they brought them over from Africa in chains?

Tell me.

In Vietnam there was a Son of a Kluxer in a 2 Man Fighting position with the Great Grandson of a Slave both of them fought the enemy to their deaths protecting each other’s six .

 

[Unkotare]

Working towards putting a stop to it. .....

How exactly?

 

[MisterBeale]

In August of 1896, a book titled The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro, written by Frederick Hoffman, hit the streets of America.. Hoffman was a statistician for Prudential Insurance. He wrote the book to justify higher life insurance premiums charged to African Americans at that time. Here is his reason:

“All the tables for various states and cities confirm the census data and show without exception that the criminality of the negro exceeds that of any other race of any numerical importance in this country.”

In this book, Hoffman used the racial proportion argument to base his claims of black criminality. His claim was that due to traits inherent to blacks, the black race was dying off faster, was more violent, committed more crime, and had a higher rate of illegitimate birth rates than whites. Please remember that his study was published in 1896, and in 1896, black codes, vagrancy laws, and convict leasing were in full effect. But that didn’t matter to Hoffman; blacks simply had a natural propensity for crime and immoral behavior.

He presented what is now the age-old claim of high black violent crime, illegitimacy and rape. Never mind that in 1896 a black person could get accused of crimes they did not commit, get arrested, tried, and found guilty even when evidence showed they were innocent of the crime. He even denies that race had anything to do with lynchings. Black leaders of that time almost immediately criticized his findings.

W.E.B. DuBois wrote a scathing critique of Hoffman’s work in a review published in the January 1897 volume of “Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science.” Dubois found severe errors in Hoffman’s work. He begins by questioning the source Hoffman used for his analysis, the Eleventh Census of the United States.

“In the Eleventh Census, Mr. Hoffman expresses great faith, and thinks it as reliable as any of the previous enumerations. There nevertheless exists in the minds of many scholars grave doubts as to the accuracy of a large part of this census, and a disposition to base few important conclusions on its results. To this extent, therefore, many of Mr. Hoffman’s conclusions will be discounted. The anthropological material collected at war-time is of undoubted value, if, as Dr. Gould himself points out, the student remembers that they relate to one sex only, and to the most healthful years. Finally, in all deductions drawn from the vital statistics of large cities, the student must know that only in recent years are these figures reliable, and that they give little or no clue to conditions in the country where over three-fourths of the Negroes live.”

In his review, Dubois found numerous errors in sampling and logic. He points out Hoffman’s mistakes in understanding the impact of slavery on blacks and the response young blacks had at that time to the obstacles put in front of them due to white racism. Hoffman argued that what was happening was due to traits inherent in the black race. Dubois argued that circumstances and conditions were the cause. His argument boiled down to this: the root cause of the problems blacks faced was white racism.

Hoffman raised the issue of illegitimacy, just like some whites do today. However, Dubois contrasted the illegitimacy rates of American blacks presented by Hoffman to rates in European cities. Dubois debunked Hoffman’s claim by showing that black illegitimacy rates in the American cities Hoffman used for his study were lower than, Paris, Rome, Munich, Vienna, Stockholm, Paris, and Brussels.

Frederick Hoffman, “The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro” pg. 228, Race traits and tendencies of the American Negro : Hoffman, Frederick L. (Frederick Ludwig), 1865-1946 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

W.E.B. Du Bois, “Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro. By Frederick L. Hoffman, F.S.S.” [Review]. Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science, v. 9 (January 1897): pp.127-133., Review of Hoffman's Race Traits :: W E B Du Bois . org

So what we see here are the same beliefs about blacks that are expressed by many whites today. We read that stuff in THIS forum consistently then we get told how we should not blame whites now for what their ancestors did. Well, you guys have expressed the same beliefs as your ancestors so:

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?

This is funny. . . at first, when I got a report from this thread, I was like, how the hell has the title of this thread not been thrown in the badlands for being inflammatory and a bait title. Clearly, you are trying to divided folks, and it is a race baiting title.

Then? I read you post. Good post.

Yes, there are a lot of white folks that stereo type all blacks as one way or another, and we have a lot of them on here.

OTH? We have a lot of black folks that believe the entire GOP is racist, don't we?

I think all stereo-typing is dangerous. If we create segregated safe spaces, and separate media and echo chambers, this type of thing will continue.

 

[BackAgain]

This is funny. . . at first, when I got a report from this thread, I was like, how the hell has the title of this thread not been thrown in the badlands for being inflammatory and a bait title. Clearly, you are trying to divided folks, and it is a race baiting title.

Then? I read you post. Good post.

Yes, there are a lot of white folks that stereo type all blacks as one way or another, and we have a lot of them on here.

OTH? We have a lot of black folks that believe the entire GOP is racist, don't we?

I think all stereo-typing is dangerous. If we create segregated safe spaces, and separate media and echo chambers, this type of thing will continue.

Nah. Your first instinct was correct. It’s a bait thread. And the OP was basically another dose of the same old same old he always serves up.

 

[AZrailwhale]

This is funny. . . at first, when I got a report from this thread, I was like, how the hell has the title of this thread not been thrown in the badlands for being inflammatory and a bait title. Clearly, you are trying to divided folks, and it is a race baiting title.

Then? I read you post. Good post.

Yes, there are a lot of white folks that stereo type all blacks as one way or another, and we have a lot of them on here.

OTH? We have a lot of black folks that believe the entire GOP is racist, don't we?

I think all stereo-typing is dangerous. If we create segregated safe spaces, and separate media and echo chambers, this type of thing will continue.

Stereotypes are created because there is a lot of truth in them. Obviously they are painting with a very large brush.

 

[MisterBeale]

Stereotypes are created because there is a lot of truth in them. Obviously they are painting with a very large brush.

They might be useful for the State, organizations, corporations, and individuals to navigate society, but they are worthless for individuals to judge other individuals.

Only the ignorant do not understand this.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

In August of 1896, a book titled The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro, written by Frederick Hoffman, hit the streets of America.. Hoffman was a statistician for Prudential Insurance. He wrote the book to justify higher life insurance premiums charged to African Americans at that time. Here is his reason:

“All the tables for various states and cities confirm the census data and show without exception that the criminality of the negro exceeds that of any other race of any numerical importance in this country.”

In this book, Hoffman used the racial proportion argument to base his claims of black criminality. His claim was that due to traits inherent to blacks, the black race was dying off faster, was more violent, committed more crime, and had a higher rate of illegitimate birth rates than whites. Please remember that his study was published in 1896, and in 1896, black codes, vagrancy laws, and convict leasing were in full effect. But that didn’t matter to Hoffman; blacks simply had a natural propensity for crime and immoral behavior.

He presented what is now the age-old claim of high black violent crime, illegitimacy and rape. Never mind that in 1896 a black person could get accused of crimes they did not commit, get arrested, tried, and found guilty even when evidence showed they were innocent of the crime. He even denies that race had anything to do with lynchings. Black leaders of that time almost immediately criticized his findings.

W.E.B. DuBois wrote a scathing critique of Hoffman’s work in a review published in the January 1897 volume of “Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science.” Dubois found severe errors in Hoffman’s work. He begins by questioning the source Hoffman used for his analysis, the Eleventh Census of the United States.

“In the Eleventh Census, Mr. Hoffman expresses great faith, and thinks it as reliable as any of the previous enumerations. There nevertheless exists in the minds of many scholars grave doubts as to the accuracy of a large part of this census, and a disposition to base few important conclusions on its results. To this extent, therefore, many of Mr. Hoffman’s conclusions will be discounted. The anthropological material collected at war-time is of undoubted value, if, as Dr. Gould himself points out, the student remembers that they relate to one sex only, and to the most healthful years. Finally, in all deductions drawn from the vital statistics of large cities, the student must know that only in recent years are these figures reliable, and that they give little or no clue to conditions in the country where over three-fourths of the Negroes live.”

In his review, Dubois found numerous errors in sampling and logic. He points out Hoffman’s mistakes in understanding the impact of slavery on blacks and the response young blacks had at that time to the obstacles put in front of them due to white racism. Hoffman argued that what was happening was due to traits inherent in the black race. Dubois argued that circumstances and conditions were the cause. His argument boiled down to this: the root cause of the problems blacks faced was white racism.

Hoffman raised the issue of illegitimacy, just like some whites do today. However, Dubois contrasted the illegitimacy rates of American blacks presented by Hoffman to rates in European cities. Dubois debunked Hoffman’s claim by showing that black illegitimacy rates in the American cities Hoffman used for his study were lower than, Paris, Rome, Munich, Vienna, Stockholm, Paris, and Brussels.

Frederick Hoffman, “The Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro” pg. 228, Race traits and tendencies of the American Negro : Hoffman, Frederick L. (Frederick Ludwig), 1865-1946 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

W.E.B. Du Bois, “Race Traits and Tendencies of the American Negro. By Frederick L. Hoffman, F.S.S.” [Review]. Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science, v. 9 (January 1897): pp.127-133., Review of Hoffman's Race Traits :: W E B Du Bois . org

So what we see here are the same beliefs about blacks that are expressed by many whites today. We read that stuff in THIS forum consistently then we get told how we should not blame whites now for what their ancestors did. Well, you guys have expressed the same beliefs as your ancestors so:

When will White People Stop Doing the Same Things They Did in the Past?

We wonder the same about you? When will you teach you children to stop stealing?

 

[Failzero]

Far Left & Left Leaning Posters here Stereotypes White Folks hourly here ...

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Pray tell, by murder or pity? Love, beautress.

He made a threat.

 

[Failzero]

Micro Aggression ?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Working towards putting a stop to it. And yourself?

So you're raising your kids to not be petty thieves, rapists and murderers? That's good you're doing something about changing the stereotype of the black male

Maybe stop sitting on your porch drinking that Colt 45 and go to work?