When was war declared against Venezuela?

[berg80]

... against Vietnam

The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution gave Johnson the authority for military actions taken against N. Vietnam. Obama based military action against Libya and other ME nations on UNSCR 1973. Reagan justified actions taken in Grenada on the rescue of US students.

Is Bone Spurs the only prez to make dubious claims of authority to take military action? No. Does that make what he is doing legal? No.

 

[Billiejeens]

We haven’t formally “declared war” since WWII

My point

 

[GLASNOST]

The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution gave Johnson the authority for military actions taken against N. Vietnam. Obama based military action against Libya and other ME nations on UNSCR 1973. Reagan justified actions taken in Grenada on the rescue of US students.

1). The UNSCR gave no authority to invade Irak.
2). The Vietnamese attack in the Gulf of Tonkin was a lie.
3). The US students in Grenada were in no danger what-so-ever.

If you want I can back those up.

 

[GLASNOST]

My point

Yes.

 

[Delldude]

Reading reports Maduro has possibly fled to Brazil.

Did Nicolás Maduro Flee to Brazil Amid Possible U.S. Attack? Here's What We Know​

Sources claim Maduro might leave Venezuela due to a potential U.S. attack. According to CCN, he could have reached the Brazilian border this afternoon.​

https://www.heraldousa.com/latestnews/did-nicolas-maduro-flee-to-brazil-amid-possible-u.s.-attack-heres-what-we-know-20251129-0010.html

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Reading reports Maduro has possibly fled to Brazil.

Did Nicolás Maduro Flee to Brazil Amid Possible U.S. Attack? Here's What We Know​

Sources claim Maduro might leave Venezuela due to a potential U.S. attack. According to CCN, he could have reached the Brazilian border this afternoon.​

https://www.heraldousa.com/latestnews/did-nicolas-maduro-flee-to-brazil-amid-possible-u.s.-attack-heres-what-we-know-20251129-0010.html

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That's what I heard.

Who do I know who cares?

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[Delldude]

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That's what I heard.

Who do I know who cares?

Maduro...........

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Maduro...........

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Well, I imagine so.

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[Delldude]

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Well, I imagine so.

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Trump's messing with Maduro's head.
He can't do any land invasion without congressional approval.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Trump's messing with Maduro's head.
He can't do any land invasion without congressional approval.

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What they want you to think.

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[Delldude]

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What they want you to think.

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Pretty sure.

 

[berg80]

1). The UNSCR gave no authority to invade Irak.
2). The Vietnamese attack in the Gulf of Tonkin was a lie.
3). The US students in Grenada were in no danger what-so-ever.

If you want I can back those up.

AI Overview

Yes, the US Congress voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq in 2002. The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 gave President George W. Bush the authority to use military force to disarm Saddam Hussein's Iraq government, which was passed by the House 296-133 and the Senate 77-23. Congress also authorized the use of military force against Iraq in 1991 during the Persian Gulf War, though the 2002 vote is the one more directly linked to the 2003 invasion.

Johnson obtained authorization from Congress to wage war in Vietnam. Full stop.

I said...."Reagan justified actions taken in Grenada on the rescue of US students." It wasn't a comment on whether they were actually in danger.

 

[Delldude]

AI Overview

Yes, the US Congress voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq in 2002. The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 gave President George W. Bush the authority to use military force to disarm Saddam Hussein's Iraq government, which was passed by the House 296-133 and the Senate 77-23. Congress also authorized the use of military force against Iraq in 1991 during the Persian Gulf War, though the 2002 vote is the one more directly linked to the 2003 invasion.

Johnson obtained authorization from Congress to wage war in Vietnam. Full stop.

I said...."Reagan justified actions taken in Grenada on the rescue of US students." It wasn't a comment on whether they were actually in danger.

AUMF is still a law.......(In use)...

 

[berg80]

Yes.

Lawmakers Suggest Follow-Up Boat Strike Could Be a War Crime​

A top Republican and Democrats in Congress suggested on Sunday that American military officials might have committed a war crime in President Trump’s offensive against boats in the Caribbean after a news report said that during one such attack, a follow-up strike was ordered to kill survivors.

The remarks came in response to a Washington Post report on Friday that said that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had given a verbal order to kill everyone aboard boats suspected of smuggling drugs, and that this led a military commander to carry out a second strike to kill those who had initially survived an attack in early September.

“Obviously if that occurred, that would be very serious, and I agree that that would be an illegal act,” Representative Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio and a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said on “Face the Nation” on CBS.

Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, said on CBS that if the report was accurate, the attack “rises to the level of a war crime.” And on CNN, when asked if he believed a second strike to kill survivors constituted a war crime, Senator Mark Kelly, Democrat of Arizona, answered, “It seems to.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/30/us/politics/trump-boat-strikes-war-crime.html

Are the R's actually growing a pair?

 

[Delldude]

Lawmakers Suggest Follow-Up Boat Strike Could Be a War Crime​

A top Republican and Democrats in Congress suggested on Sunday that American military officials might have committed a war crime in President Trump’s offensive against boats in the Caribbean after a news report said that during one such attack, a follow-up strike was ordered to kill survivors.

The remarks came in response to a Washington Post report on Friday that said that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had given a verbal order to kill everyone aboard boats suspected of smuggling drugs, and that this led a military commander to carry out a second strike to kill those who had initially survived an attack in early September.

“Obviously if that occurred, that would be very serious, and I agree that that would be an illegal act,” Representative Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio and a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said on “Face the Nation” on CBS.

Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, said on CBS that if the report was accurate, the attack “rises to the level of a war crime.” And on CNN, when asked if he believed a second strike to kill survivors constituted a war crime, Senator Mark Kelly, Democrat of Arizona, answered, “It seems to.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/30/us/politics/trump-boat-strikes-war-crime.html

Are the R's actually growing a pair?

Told ya the Venezuelan OP was going to be the next Epstein Files level Dem event.

Taking the bait so soon?

 

[Rawley]

The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution gave Johnson the authority for military actions taken against N. Vietnam. Obama based military action against Libya and other ME nations on UNSCR 1973. Reagan justified actions taken in Grenada on the rescue of US students.

Is Bone Spurs the only prez to make dubious claims of authority to take military action? No. Does that make what he is doing legal? No.

What military actions has Trump taken against Venezuela?

 

[BS Filter]

Democrats play this game every time we have a republican President. When W was President he was going to be tried for war crimes for waterboarding and Cheney was going to be arrested if he left the country. Blah blah blah.

 

[Hafar1014]

Boat Suspected of Smuggling Drugs Is Said to Have Turned Before U.S. Attacked It​

The Trump administration has argued that the summary killing of 11 people it accused of running drugs was legal under the laws of war.

A Venezuelan boat that the U.S. military destroyed in the Caribbean last week had altered its course and appeared to have turned around before the attack started because the people onboard had apparently spotted a military aircraft stalking it, according to American officials familiar with the matter.

The military repeatedly hit the vessel before it sank, the officials added, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. The administration has claimed the boat was carrying drugs.

The disclosures provide new details about an operation that was a startling departure from traditional drug interdiction efforts, escalating President Trump’s use of the military for matters typically handled by law enforcement. Legal specialists have disputed that it was lawful for the military, on President Trump’s orders, to target and kill drug smuggling suspects as if they were combatants in a war.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/10/us/trump-drug-boat-venezuela-strike.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20250910&instance_id=162263&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=205638&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

Does declaring war against drug smugglers mean we can bomb people in Mexico? Importantly, where is the hard evidence the trump government made about the boat and the people in it?

Vitally, have the Repub's in Congress scheduled hearings on the matter of the government's claimed justification? If not why not?

SO why are you so eager to allow drugs into America

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

SO why are you so eager to allow drugs into America

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There's only one answer to that.

They want to kill Americans.

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[GLASNOST]

1). The UNSCR gave no authority to invade Irak.
2). The Vietnamese attack in the Gulf of Tonkin was a lie.
3). The US students in Grenada were in no danger what-so-ever.

If you want I can back those up.

AI Overview

Yes, the US Congress voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq

Did you not noticed the spelling of UNSCR? The UN did not authorise the invasion of Irak. The UN inspection team had conducted its mission and reported that there no WMDs in Irak thus forbade the invasion. The US lied.

Johnson obtained authorization from Congress to wage war in Vietnam. Full stop.

..... based on the fabricated attack in the Gulf of Tonkin that never happened. The US bold-faced lied.

I said...."Reagan justified actions taken in Grenada on the rescue of US students." It wasn't a comment on whether they were actually in danger.

Good, then you already know it was a lie.