“When people condemn Zionists, they mean Jews. You’re talking antisemites.”

[Jroc]

The thing is, government exists and, under the right circumstances, does what you tell it to do.

God doesn't exist and doesn't do much of anything, no matter how hard you pray.

God didn't stop the Holocaust; the Godless Red Army did.

G-d doesn't control what to do the Holocaust was what happens G-d is absent...fool chairman Mao starve to death 30 to 40 million of his own people in the name of his great communist society. You .must be proud

 

[rosends]

Actually, the only double standard is the one where we give the Jews a pass because we still feel guilty about the HOlocaust.

Any other country would be under sanctions right now for doing what Israel does.

I think you are wrong and I think that the UN's record of resolutions and condemnations is proof of that.

 

[rosends]

so is Islam. But the "Torah Based" religions have expanded across all continents, forcibly converting people to their faiths, starting wars, and genociding anyone who doesn't get with the program.

I disagree -- other religions like Islam and Christianity are not Torah based. They take their version of the Jewish texts and use them as precursors, but not as any definitive guide to construct a religion. Judaism, by the way, does not forcibly convert people.

Most of the world has realized that colonialism, imperialism, and racism are wrong.

fortunately, Zionism is none of these.

The only reason why Israel gets away with what it does is that the rest of the world feels regret that it didn't do enough to stop the Holocaust from happening.

that you think that is adorable.

 

[rosends]

I'm no expert, but my understanding is that Zion refers to the name of an old Canaanite city, the precursor of the Israelites.

"Zion" develops from the Jewish idea of Tziyon (a name for both Israel as a whole and Jerusalem, and a word derived from a root which often refers to "outstanding" or "marked."

 

[Moonglow]

The left hates Jews and a Land for Jews

Prove that every single leftist in the USA hates Jews...

 

[irosie91]

I disagree -- other religions like Islam and Christianity are not Torah based. They take their version of the Jewish texts and use them as precursors, but not as any definitive guide to construct a religion. Judaism, by the way, does not forcibly convert people.

fortunately, Zionism is none of these.

that you think that is adorable.

goebbelian sophistry is the calculus of the islamonazis

 

[JoeB131]

G-d doesn't control what to do the Holocaust was what happens G-d is absent...fool chairman Mao starve to death 30 to 40 million of his own people in the name of his great communist society. You .must be proud

Wait now. You are supposedly God's chosen people, and yet he stands by and does nothing when a madman makes it his life mission to exterminate all of you? He waits for a bunch of godless Commies to fix the problem.


Oh, I'll be the first one to admit that the Great Leap Forward was a collection of fuckups. Everything from local party leaders filing misleading grain production reports (causing the government to sell excess grain it didn't have) to the folly of the "Four Pests" program killing sparrows, which led to an increase in the insect population.

Unfortunately, Famine was a regular thing in China. From the Han Dynasty (c. 200 BCE to the Great Leap, China has experienced 1800 recorded famines. However, they haven't had any famines since then.

I think you are wrong and I think that the UN's record of resolutions and condemnations is proof of that.

Resolutions that get vetoes by the US and remain largely meaningless.

I disagree -- other religions like Islam and Christianity are not Torah based. They take their version of the Jewish texts and use them as precursors, but not as any definitive guide to construct a religion. Judaism, by the way, does not forcibly convert people.

Thank C'Thulhu for that.

 

[Zebra]

Any idea who said this? (Answer at end of post.)

When people scream that they’re not against Jews, just against “Zionists,” they are lying. It’s a way, they think, to curse and condemn Jews without saying the word, and thus they think they are getting away with their antisemitism. They are wrong. Zionists are people (Jews and Christians alike) who believe that Jews have the right to self-determination.

- They know that Jews are indigenous to Israel, way before Islam existed, dating back 3500 years, until they were expelled by Rome.

- They know, given the hate and violence against Jews for 2,000 years, that Jews need the safe harbor of self-determination.

- They understand that the shrieks of “to the river from the sea” means the destruction of Israel and her Jews.

- They know that Jews have the right to defend themselves from evil forces who want to wipe them out, be it Iran or Hamas or any other Islamic terrorists.

https://legislature.maine.gov/legis/bills/getTestimonyDoc.asp?id=10042446

Answer: MLK

true!

 

[Sayaras]

Ahed Tamimi who some say she is unusually white for an Arab "palestinian" because she has also Bosnian blood from Bi
Bosnian Nazis who came to fight the Jews in 1948..


Palestinian Activist Ahed Tamimi: We Are Fighting The Jews, Not Just Zionism; Westerners Patronize Us With Their Aid, They Should Shut Up When We Talk; They Will Give Us Aid, Whether They Like It Or Not, And We Will Not Thank Them; I Wish For A Nuclear WWIII, So The Whole World Is Destroyed, Not Just The Palestinians,. MEMRI, August 8, 2025.

Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi said on The Enlightenment Podcast on YouTube on August 8, 2025, that there is no difference between Zionism and Judaism, adding that she believes that Judaism means occupation. “We are fighting the Jews, not Zionism,” she stated. Tamimi said she does not care how she is portrayed in Western media, adding that the world “must shut up” when a Palestinian is speaking because they are “superior to the entire world,” as they are the only ones fighting injustice. She said she has reached a point where she wishes for World War III so that “this will all be over.” “Let the whole world be destroyed, I don’t care,” she continued, saying nuclear weapons should be used to destroy the world so it will not be only Palestinians who are destroyed. Tamimi said the West must give aid to Palestinians because their plight is the result of Western mistakes and political and economic systems, and therefore Palestinians will not thank Western countries for their aid.

Palestinian Activist Ahed Tamimi: We Are Fighting The Jews, Not Just Zionism; Westerners Patronize Us With Their Aid, They Should Shut Up When We Talk; They Will Give Us Aid, Whether They Like It Or Not, And We Will Not Thank Them; I Wish For A Nucle

Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi said on The Enlightenment Podcast on YouTube on August 8, 2025, that there is no differ...

www.memri.org

 

[irosie91]

Palestinian Activist Ahed Tamimi: We Are Fighting The Jews, Not Just Zionism; Westerners Patronize Us With Their Aid, They Should Shut Up When We Talk; They Will Give Us Aid, Whether They Like It Or Not, And We Will Not Thank Them; I Wish For A Nuclear WWIII, So The Whole World Is Destroyed, Not Just The Palestinians,. MEMRI, August 8, 2025.

Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi said on The Enlightenment Podcast on YouTube on August 8, 2025, that there is no difference between Zionism and Judaism, adding that she believes that Judaism means occupation. “We are fighting the Jews, not Zionism,” she stated. Tamimi said she does not care how she is portrayed in Western media, adding that the world “must shut up” when a Palestinian is speaking because they are “superior to the entire world,” as they are the only ones fighting injustice. She said she has reached a point where she wishes for World War III so that “this will all be over.” “Let the whole world be destroyed, I don’t care,” she continued, saying nuclear weapons should be used to destroy the world so it will not be only Palestinians who are destroyed. Tamimi said the West must give aid to Palestinians because their plight is the result of Western mistakes and political and economic systems, and therefore Palestinians will not thank Western countries for their aid.

Palestinian Activist Ahed Tamimi: We Are Fighting The Jews, Not Just Zionism; Westerners Patronize Us With Their Aid, They Should Shut Up When We Talk; They Will Give Us Aid, Whether They Like It Or Not, And We Will Not Thank Them; I Wish For A Nucle

Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi said on The Enlightenment Podcast on YouTube on August 8, 2025, that there is no differ...

www.memri.org

well----I agree as to the nature of the war-----it is a fight between Muslims and Jews----nothing
new-----it has been ongoing since arabs pulled an OCTOBER 7 under the aegis
of the bastard UMAR (islamo nazi dog) -----upon Jerusalem. It was 636 AD when the filth
invaded the holy Jewish city. ----from 636 thru 2025 and counting-----the barbaric
islamic aggression, pillage, murder, rape and oppression----approximately 14 centuries

 

[cnm]

Sometimes words mean just what they are.....I'm not big on adding other meanings onto them to suit a personal agenda.

I'm not Jewish but I guess I'm a Zionist by definition.


Data from Oxford Languages

Zi·on·ist

[ˈzīənəst]
noun

1. a supporter of Zionism; a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel:

At least you get to provoke some cursing and condemnation and antisemitism of Lisa558, according to her OP, so there's that.

Well, I assume pagan and atheist Zionists are included in the provocateur ranks and Christianity is not a requirement.

 

[cnm]

well----I agree as to the nature of the war-----it is a fight between Muslims and Jews----nothing
new-----it has been ongoing since arabs pulled an OCTOBER 7 under the aegis
of the bastard UMAR (islamo nazi dog) -----upon Jerusalem. It was 636 AD when the filth
invaded the holy Jewish city. ----from 636 thru 2025 and counting-----the barbaric
islamic aggression, pillage, murder, rape and oppression----approximately 14 centuries

Just FYI. Parsing that formatting is too much work. I scroll right past.

 

[cnm]

The people saying “Zionists” are using the word in place of saying Jews.

And don’t start in with the semite nonsense, either.

They means Da Joos.

This you, 1srelluc ?

 

[irosie91]

Just FYI. Parsing that formatting is too much work. I scroll right past.

your loss. Long ago I had the good fortune to be asked by an excellent prof.
to parse "JABBERWOCKY" ----it was a pleasant and instructive experience.

 

[cnm]

your loss. Long ago I had the good fortune to be asked by an excellent prof.
to parse "JABBERWOCKY" ----it was a pleasant and instructive experience.

But you're not exactly Charles Dodgson, are you? I think of it as not pursuing sunk costs rather than as a loss.

 

[irosie91]

But you're not exactly Charles Dodgson, are you? I think of it as not pursuing sunk costs rather than as a loss.

you deceive yourself

 

[cnm]

you deceive yourself

You are Charles Dodgson?

I stand corrected.

 

[Grau]

"MORONS CLAIM TO BE MIND READERS"

Any idea who said this? (Answer at end of post.)

When people scream that they’re not against Jews, just against “Zionists,” they are lying. It’s a way, they think, to curse and condemn Jews without saying the word, and thus they think they are getting away with their antisemitism. They are wrong. Zionists are people (Jews and Christians alike) who believe that Jews have the right to self-determination.

- They know that Jews are indigenous to Israel, way before Islam existed, dating back 3500 years, until they were expelled by Rome.

- They know, given the hate and violence against Jews for 2,000 years, that Jews need the safe harbor of self-determination.

- They understand that the shrieks of “to the river from the sea” means the destruction of Israel and her Jews.

- They know that Jews have the right to defend themselves from evil forces who want to wipe them out, be it Iran or Hamas or any other Islamic terrorists.

https://legislature.maine.gov/legis/bills/getTestimonyDoc.asp?id=10042446

Answer: MLK

Since our lowly gaggle of genocidal Zionist shills must rely only on lies, distortions and slander, they must fabricate ill intent where none exists.

The presumptuous lie that they and only they know what people "really mean" when someone refers to "Zionists" is thoroughly debunked by the fact that not all Jews are Zionists.

Therefor, when I write "Jews", I mean Jews and just Jews.
When I write "Zionists", I mean Zionists and just Zionists.

The obsessive need to conflate "Jews" with "Zionists" is only proof that "Lisa558" is only capable of responding to irrefutable facts exposing the genocidal criminality of Israel's Zionists by howling "anti Semite!" at everyone.


Rational, ethical and honest Jews around the world condemn Netanyahu's genocidal agenda. Zionists support genocide and expansionism.

It's that simple.



"Jews Against Genocide statement and action"

Jews Against Genocide statement and action | IJAN

www.ijan.org

EXCERPT "We, Jews Against Genocide, came to Yad Vashem, Israel’s memorial of the genocide committed against Jews, to honor the Palestinian children who are dying in a genocide committed by Jews.

We brought dolls to symbolise the children of Gaza, and tried to bring a glimpse of the horror that Gazan’s face, to Israel’s doorstep. We hope to show Israel, and the world, the absurd reality of using the memory of one genocide to justify another." CONTINUED

 

[gipper]

"MORONS CLAIM TO BE MIND READERS"




Since our lowly gaggle of genocidal Zionist shills must rely only on lies, distortions and slander, they must fabricate ill intent where none exists.

The presumptuous lie that they and only they know what people "really mean" when someone refers to "Zionists" is thoroughly debunked by the fact that not all Jews are Zionists.

Therefor, when I write "Jews", I mean Jews and just Jews.
When I write "Zionists", I mean Zionists and just Zionists.

The obsessive need to conflate "Jews" with "Zionists" is only proof that "Lisa558" is only capable of responding to irrefutable facts exposing the genocidal criminality of Israel's Zionists by howling "anti Semite!" at everyone.


Rational, ethical and honest Jews around the world condemn Netanyahu's genocidal agenda. Zionists support genocide and expansionism.

It's that simple.



"Jews Against Genocide statement and action"

Jews Against Genocide statement and action | IJAN

www.ijan.org

EXCERPT "We, Jews Against Genocide, came to Yad Vashem, Israel’s memorial of the genocide committed against Jews, to honor the Palestinian children who are dying in a genocide committed by Jews.

We brought dolls to symbolise the children of Gaza, and tried to bring a glimpse of the horror that Gazan’s face, to Israel’s doorstep. We hope to show Israel, and the world, the absurd reality of using the memory of one genocide to justify another." CONTINUED

**** Israel and **** Zionism and **** Lisa.

Israel has control of the western corporate media, yet the Zionists weep about independent media reporting the truth about the genocide. The Zionist supports censorship just like every other tyrannical authoritarian ideology.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

**** Israel and **** Zionism and **** Lisa.

Israel has control of the western corporate media, yet the Zionists weep about independent media reporting the truth about the genocide. The Zionist supports censorship just like every other tyrannical authoritarian ideology.

Do you know….YOU’re a chronic bore?