“When people condemn Zionists, they mean Jews. You’re talking antisemites.”

[JoeB131]

Not exactly what you said originally Swalwell ... You Pretty much indicated that's why you don't Jews period...the stoodge stuff came in more recently... Before you were lonely Jew hater, now you're also a CCP stoodge ....

Guy, you are becoming even more incoherent as time goes on.

I dislike you because you have a messed up religion that makes you act in a shitty way, compared to Christians, who have a messed up religion but generally try to act decently.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I dislike you

You don’t even know him.

Do you live your life totally in cyberspace?

 

[cnm]

Oh. That must mean you like me because you know me only through cyber space.

Sweet.

 

[cnm]

“When people condemn Zionists, they mean Jews. You’re talking antisemites.”​

Christian Zionism​

Christian Zionism is a political and religious ideology that, in a Christian context, espouses the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land. Likewise, it holds that the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 was in accordance with biblical prophecies transmitted through the Old Testament: that the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Levant—the eschatological "Gathering of Israel"—is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Wikipedia​

So, what, Christian Zionists are Jews?

Or Semites?

Ok....

 

[Lisa558]

You don’t even know him.

Do you live your life totally in cyberspace?

All he knows is that’s he’s Jewish, and that’s enough to hate him.

And then he screams at other people for being bigots (against blacks).

 

[Lisa558]

Christian Zionism​

Christian Zionism is a political and religious ideology that, in a Christian context, espouses the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land. Likewise, it holds that the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 was in accordance with biblical prophecies transmitted through the Old Testament: that the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Levant—the eschatological "Gathering of Israel"—is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Wikipedia​

So, what, Christian Zionists are Jews?

Or Semites?

Ok....

The people saying “Zionists” are using the word in place of saying Jews.

And don’t start in with the semite nonsense, either.

They means Da Joos.

 

[JoeB131]

You don’t even know him.

Do you live your life totally in cyberspace?

Naw, just 90% of the time.

What I see of him, his racism, his religious arrogance, his rage, just not a likeable person.

Now, I'll admit everyone comes off probably a little harsher on line than they are IRL. I know I do.

All he knows is that’s he’s Jewish, and that’s enough to hate him.

And then he screams at other people for being bigots (against blacks).

Your religion isn't a race, and I've expressed my contempt for all religions, including the one I was brought up in (Roman Catholicism).

If you are doing truly evil shit to please an imaginary pixie in the sky, that's fucked up, yo!

The people saying “Zionists” are using the word in place of saying Jews.

And don’t start in with the semite nonsense, either.

They means Da Joos.

We mean the Zionists. I despise Zionism.

On the other hand, I've voted for our governor twice, despite him being Jewish. (On the other hand, I would never vote for a Mormon, and one of the main reasons I finally dumped the GOP was because they nominated Romney in 2012)

 

[DGS49]

There are two important aspects to a religion in today's society. First, is it theologically tenable, and second, does it promote BEHAVIOR that can fairly be deemed "good citizenship"?

Assuming that there is a "god," in order to the theologically tenable, a religion cannot be based on provable falsehoods. Most major religions are based on people, events, and facts that are so far in the past that they cannot be proven - only assumed - to be false. Did Jesus walk on water? All we have is witness statements. Believe it or don't, based on your assessment of the credibility of those witnesses. Were the America's populated by the lost tribes of Israel? Well.....No. Now we have DNA testing that proves this false. Hence, any religion that is based on that claim is not theologically tenable.

The Torah-based religions generally promote good citizenship. Don't steal, don't slander, don't commit adultery, and so on. Obviously, Judaism is a Torah-based religion.

If you assess the actions of Israel differently than you assess the actions of all other countries on earth, then you might be an anti-Semite (bigot). What countries would tolerate a neighbor that formally and emphatically states that it will never accept its existence, and continually takes violent actions to end that existence? None.

For the record, I am a Christian Zionist.

 

[JoeB131]

There are two important aspects to a religion in today's society. First, is it theologically tenable, and second, does it promote BEHAVIOR that can fairly be deemed "good citizenship"?

If you are only a "Good citizen" because you are afraid of an imaginary sky pixie, that doesn't make you moral.

The Torah-based religions generally promote good citizenship. Don't steal, don't slander, don't commit adultery, and so on. Obviously, Judaism is a Torah-based religion.

so is Islam. But the "Torah Based" religions have expanded across all continents, forcibly converting people to their faiths, starting wars, and genociding anyone who doesn't get with the program.

If you assess the actions of Israel differently than you assess the actions of all other countries on earth, then you might be an anti-Semite (bigot). What countries would tolerate a neighbor that formally and emphatically states that it will never accept its existence, and continually takes violent actions to end that existence? None.

The problem is, all other countries no longer engage in the kind of behavior the Zionists do.

Most of the world has realized that colonialism, imperialism, and racism are wrong.

It's like Jews have finally earned their place at the "big boy" table of white people, only to realize that white people, for the most part, disdain the kind of behavior they want to engage in.

The only reason why Israel gets away with what it does is that the rest of the world feels regret that it didn't do enough to stop the Holocaust from happening.

 

[Jroc]

You don’t even know him.

Do you live your life totally in cyberspac

His CCP masters feed him talking points

 

[JoeB131]

His CCP masters feed him talking points

Naw, she just feeds me really spicy Sichuan food.

The two scariest words in the English language are "You Try!!!"

 

[Polishprince]

I don't understand the hatred libs have for the Jews? Did their accountant anger them? Was their Jewish gastroenterologist rough with the proctoscope and now they take it out on all Jews?

 

[Jroc]

If you are only a "Good citizen" because you are afraid of an imaginary sky pixie, that doesn't make you moral.



so is Islam. But the "Torah Based" religions have expanded across all continents, forcibly converting people to their faiths, starting wars, and genociding anyone who doesn't get with the program.




The problem is, all other countries no longer engage in the kind of behavior the Zionists do.

Most of the world has realized that colonialism, imperialism, and racism are wrong.

It's like Jews have finally earned their place at the "big boy" table of white people, only to realize that white people, for the most part, disdain the kind of behavior they want to engage in.

The only reason why Israel gets away with what it does is that the rest of the world feels regret that it didn't do enough to stop the Holocaust from happening.

Communist supremacists don't need religion..thier religion is the government

 

[JoeB131]

Communist supremacists don't need religion..thier religion is the government

The thing is, government exists and, under the right circumstances, does what you tell it to do.

God doesn't exist and doesn't do much of anything, no matter how hard you pray.

God didn't stop the Holocaust; the Godless Red Army did.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't understand the hatred libs have for the Jews? Did their accountant anger them? Was their Jewish gastroenterologist rough with the proctoscope and now they take it out on all Jews?

I think it's the opposite problem.

Zionists (not all Jews) engage in behavior that liberals have concluded are wrong.

If Israel was any other country engaging in the same behavior, there would be sanctions and perhaps regime change.

When I was in college (and a lot more conservative than I am now), there was this smarmy Jewish kid on the Student government.

And he was trying to impress the black kids about how anti-Apartheid he was by condemning South Africa.

To which I retorted, "How is that any different from what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians?"

The resultant sputtering was amusing to watch.

 

[toobfreak]

When people scream that they’re not against Jews, just against “Zionists, they are lying.

I'm no expert, but my understanding is that Zion refers to the name of an old Canaanite city, the precursor of the Israelites. That makes Zionism and Judaism pretty much synonymous with referring to the entire Hebrew theology.

Just as today, the term Aryan is often taken to refer to a skinhead or a white supremacist when the actual original term stems from a reference to the early Persians (Indo-Iranians).

 

[Lisa558]

There are two important aspects to a religion in today's society. First, is it theologically tenable, and second, does it promote BEHAVIOR that can fairly be deemed "good citizenship"?

Assuming that there is a "god," in order to the theologically tenable, a religion cannot be based on provable falsehoods. Most major religions are based on people, events, and facts that are so far in the past that they cannot be proven - only assumed - to be false. Did Jesus walk on water? All we have is witness statements. Believe it or don't, based on your assessment of the credibility of those witnesses. Were the America's populated by the lost tribes of Israel? Well.....No. Now we have DNA testing that proves this false. Hence, any religion that is based on that claim is not theologically tenable.

The Torah-based religions generally promote good citizenship. Don't steal, don't slander, don't commit adultery, and so on. Obviously, Judaism is a Torah-based religion.

If you assess the actions of Israel differently than you assess the actions of all other countries on earth, then you might be an anti-Semite (bigot). What countries would tolerate a neighbor that formally and emphatically states that it will never accept its existence, and continually takes violent actions to end that existence? None.

For the record, I am a Christian Zionist.

1) The double standards by which antisemites apply to Israel versus other countries is a dead giveaway.

2) AND we have antisemites who insist that their hatred for Israel is unrelated to Judaism go on to refer to Bibi as “the Jewish maniac” and assault Jewish kids trying to walk to class.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Lots of nonconformist chapels in Wales UK are called Zion.

 

[Lisa558]

Communist supremacists don't need religion..thier religion is the government

That’s also why they hate religion, and why we have these leftists mocking religious people - or outright hating them. That’s because they want the government to be their god.

 

[JoeB131]

1) The double standards by which antisemites apply to Israel versus other countries is a dead giveaway.

2) AND we have antisemites who insist that their hatred for Israel is unrelated to Judaism go on to refer to Bibi as “the Jewish maniac” and assault Jewish kids trying to walk to class.

Actually, the only double standard is the one where we give the Jews a pass because we still feel guilty about the HOlocaust.

Any other country would be under sanctions right now for doing what Israel does.