When man tells God, you can't....

[JoeB131]

You are not listening.

Tell you what, I'm in a fun mood tonight.

"It was acceptable for God to DROWN EVERY BABY IN THE WORLD because....___________, and that proves he was indeed a good and loving God."

go ahead. Have at it. I'm sure anything you say will come off just as crazy as Sr. Mary Butch.

 

[Meriweather]

Why? Frankly, there is no interpretation of Judges where Jephy or Yahweh come off looking good.

The authors were not writing a biography of God. God is more or less background for the story of mankind.

 

[Meriweather]

"It was acceptable for God to DROWN EVERY BABY IN THE WORLD because....___________, and that proves he was indeed a good and loving God."

The story is not about God, it is about man. The setting is a great flood that extended as far as the eye could see, and it killed all the population in its wake. Keep in mind, the account was not a day-to-day journal--it was written well after the fact. Notice the differences between Noah and Job. The first account, in hindsight, the author tells us that mankind deserved to be wiped out. The second addresses a time when someone who was good did not deserve all the evil that befell him.

What was the theme of Noah? A good man, with a good family, with a new beginning was still faced with the human condition. Noah gives every sign of survivor's guilt; we see he developed a drinking problem which one son thought should be made known (perhaps to help his father?); and the second son thought his father's weakness should remained hidden--a family secret.

 

[BreezeWood]

"It was acceptable for God to DROWN EVERY BABY IN THE WORLD because....___________, and that proves he was indeed a good and loving God."

The story is not about God, it is about man. The setting is a great flood that extended as far as the eye could see, and it killed all the population in its wake. Keep in mind, the account was not a day-to-day journal--it was written well after the fact. Notice the differences between Noah and Job. The first account, in hindsight, the author tells us that mankind deserved to be wiped out. The second addresses a time when someone who was good did not deserve all the evil that befell him.

What was the theme of Noah? A good man, with a good family, with a new beginning was still faced with the human condition. Noah gives every sign of survivor's guilt; we see he developed a drinking problem which one son thought should be made known (perhaps to help his father?); and the second son thought his father's weakness should remained hidden--a family secret.

What was the theme of Noah? A good man, with a good family, with a new beginning was still faced with the human condition. Noah gives every sign of survivor's guilt; we see he developed a drinking problem

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the good man does not have a new beginning - you have no idea whatever you are talking about, "survivors guilt" what other survived found again the forgeries and fallacies to worship written in a book - meriweather.

 

[ding]

"It was acceptable for God to DROWN EVERY BABY IN THE WORLD because....___________, and that proves he was indeed a good and loving God."

The story is not about God, it is about man. The setting is a great flood that extended as far as the eye could see, and it killed all the population in its wake. Keep in mind, the account was not a day-to-day journal--it was written well after the fact. Notice the differences between Noah and Job. The first account, in hindsight, the author tells us that mankind deserved to be wiped out. The second addresses a time when someone who was good did not deserve all the evil that befell him.

What was the theme of Noah? A good man, with a good family, with a new beginning was still faced with the human condition. Noah gives every sign of survivor's guilt; we see he developed a drinking problem which one son thought should be made known (perhaps to help his father?); and the second son thought his father's weakness should remained hidden--a family secret.

What was the theme of Noah? A good man, with a good family, with a new beginning was still faced with the human condition. Noah gives every sign of survivor's guilt; we see he developed a drinking problem

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the good man does not have a new beginning - you have no idea whatever you are talking about, "survivors guilt" what other survived found again the forgeries and fallacies to worship written in a book - meriweather.

You are wrong, we have way more than a book. We commune directly with the Risen Christ. It is indescribable.

 

[JoeB131]

The authors were not writing a biography of God. God is more or less background for the story of mankind.

Oh, I agree with that. So let's review the Book of Judges in Context.

1) The people who wrote it saw God as every force of nature they didn't understand, one that had to be appeased by murdering people. It was a religion of fear, not love.

2) The context of the book of Judges is that in the days when Israel didn't have a King, men did their own thing and did evil.

21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

So in that context, of course, a guy like Samson who commits terrorist acts or a guy like Jephthah who butchers his own daughter was acceptable.

The story is not about God, it is about man. The setting is a great flood that extended as far as the eye could see, and it killed all the population in its wake. Keep in mind, the account was not a day-to-day journal--it was written well after the fact. Notice the differences between Noah and Job. The first account, in hindsight, the author tells us that mankind deserved to be wiped out. The second addresses a time when someone who was good did not deserve all the evil that befell him.

What was the theme of Noah? A good man, with a good family, with a new beginning was still faced with the human condition. Noah gives every sign of survivor's guilt; we see he developed a drinking problem which one son thought should be made known (perhaps to help his father?); and the second son thought his father's weakness should remained hidden--a family secret.

None of that tells me why it was acceptable that God Drowned every baby in the world and could still be called "Good". Of course, it's a MYTH, and science proves it was a MYTH. But if you are a literalist, like Sister Mary Butch or those assholes down south who built a replica ark, this is real. So once again.

"It was acceptable for God to DROWN EVERY BABY IN THE WORLD because....___________, and that proves he was indeed a good and loving God."

Fill in the blank.

 

[LittleNipper]

So ----- the Mormons will tell you that they believe in GOD. However, their "god" is one of many. Their book and prophetic doctrines are considered by them more correct than the Bible. And the "god" they say they trust did NOT create EVERYTHING, And their salvation is dependents on their works above and beyond what Christ accomplished.
Just because one wears a belt buckle with a picture of Jesus on it, doesn't make that one a "Christian". By the works one is revealed (not saved). What did Nazis do? They intimidated, stole, murdered, raped, burned, and LIED. Their works reveal that they were not CHRISTIANS.

John 10:33-36
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Where was it written in their law?

Psalms 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Paul the Apostle taught:

1 Corinthians 8:4-6
4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

After Paul teaches that an idol is nothing in the world, He then says, "though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) ". Here Paul is referring to what the LORD has already declared regarding mankind, ie "Ye are gods". But even though they are called gods, they are not the god of this world or its associated heaven. To all that be upon this world, there is but one God that we worship and that is God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe that creation is a process of organizing things from things that already exist. We do not believe that creation means to create out of absolutely nothing, ie ex nihilo creation. I would challenge one to proof that the term "creation" in the bible means to create out of nothing. When God says He created all things, we believe that what is meant is that:

John 1:1-3
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Obviously Jesus did not create the Father, therefore we can know that the term "all things" does not refer to absolutely everything. John clarifies what is meant by "all things that were created or made" in verse 3 above. He is speaking of things that were made. In other words, there are things that have an eternal existence and cannot be made. Jesus created all things that were made or created, ie organized. As mentioned in a previous post, we believe that all matter and intelligence are eternal. In other words, they were not created or made, neither indeed can be. They are the basis upon which all other things are created.

We consider our scriptures we have that were translated by Joseph Smith to be a more perfect translation, whereas we believe the Bible in its original writings to be just as valid. However, the Bible has gone through many hands through the ages and we believe it to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly.

Regarding Salvation, we believe no person can be saved without the atoning blood of Jesus Christ. In other words, we believe only through the grace of Jesus Christ can mankind be saved. However, we do believe that Jesus Christ himself has placed certain criteria on all mankind before he will grant the grace they need to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. One such requirement that the Lord has given us is that we need to repent. Another is that we need to exercise faith in his name. For one to exercise faith in Jesus Christ, it requires good works.

Matthew 4:17
17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

As you can see, we are saved by grace through faith. As James points out, faith without works is dead. However, we cannot save ourselves by our works, even though works are required to have faith, faith or works alone will not save us. These must be coupled with the grace of Jesus Christ or they will not save us. Thus verse 9, Not of works (alone). Works must be coupled with a belief to be faith, and faith must be coupled with grace for anyone to be saved. Can we be saved without faith? No! Can we be saved without works? No! Can we be saved by faith and works without grace? No. Grace is what saves but the Lord will not save anyone into the kingdom of Heaven without first exercising faith with works. In other words, the Lord requires faith which includes good works before he will grant the grace needed to enter the kingdom of Heaven. This is the often misunderstood by some of the belief of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Yet it is taught in the Bible.

This statement you made is utterly false. "And their salvation is dependents on their works above and beyond what Christ accomplished." I have been in the church for over 50 years have never been taught that any personal works is the saving force behind our beliefs but only that they are required by the Lord before he will grant his grace.

Question: "What does the Bible mean by 'you are gods' / 'ye are gods' in Psalm 82:6 and John 10:34?"

Answer: Let’s start with a look at Psalm 82, the psalm that Jesus quotes in John 10:34. The Hebrew word translated “gods” in Psalm 82:6 is Elohim. It usually refers to the one true God, but it does have other uses. Psalm 82:1 says, “God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the gods.” It is clear from the next three verses that the word “gods” refers to magistrates, judges, and other people who hold positions of authority and rule. Calling a human magistrate a “god” indicates three things: 1) he has authority over other human beings, 2) the power he wields as a civil authority is to be feared, and 3) he derives his power and authority from God Himself, who is pictured as judging the whole earth in verse 8.

This use of the word “gods” to refer to humans is rare, but it is found elsewhere in the Old Testament. For example, when God sent Moses to Pharaoh, He said, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh” (Exodus 7:1). This simply means that Moses, as the messenger of God, was speaking God’s words and would therefore be God’s representative to the king. The Hebrew word Elohim is translated “judges” in Exodus 21:6 and 22:8, 9, and 28.

The whole point of Psalm 82 is that earthly judges must act with impartiality and true justice, because even judges must stand someday before the Judge. Verses 6 and 7 warn human magistrates that they, too, must be judged: “I said, `You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.' But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler.” This passage is saying that God has appointed men to positions of authority in which they are considered as gods among the people. They are to remember that, even though they are representing God in this world, they are mortal and must eventually give an account to God for how they used that authority.

Now, let’s look at how Jesus uses this passage. Jesus had just claimed to be the Son of God (John 10:25-30). The unbelieving Jews respond by charging Jesus with blasphemy, since He claimed to be God (verse 33). Jesus then quotes Psalm 82:6, reminding the Jews that the Law refers to mere men—albeit men of authority and prestige—as “gods.” Jesus’ point is this: you charge me with blasphemy based on my use of the title “Son of God”; yet your own Scriptures apply the same term to magistrates in general. If those who hold a divinely appointed office can be considered “gods,” how much more can the One whom God has chosen and sent (verses 34-36)?

In contrast, we have the serpent’s lie to Eve in the Garden. His statement, “your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” (Genesis 3:5), was a half-truth. Their eyes were opened (verse 7), but they did not become like God. In fact, they lost authority, rather than gaining it. Satan deceived Eve about her ability to become like the one true God, and so led her into a lie. Jesus defended His claim to be the Son of God on biblical and semantic grounds—there is a sense in which influential men can be thought of as gods; therefore, the Messiah can rightly apply the term to Himself. Human beings are not “gods” or “little gods.” We are not God. God is God, and we who know Christ are His children.

 

[Meriweather]

Fill in the blank.

The blank is that you have nothing but contempt for God, the Bible, and its authors. Then there is the problem you have with identifying the various aspects in literature. I have a feeling it is not just nuns you hate, it is God, Himself. You want to destroy anything that has anything to do with God.

Once again, you see the Book of Judges as a book about God--not a book about the politics and politicians of that time. You see the account of Noah as all about God, when all it does is tell the story of mankind and problems facing the human race--even when we are faced with new beginnings.

You ignore every mention of God's love, mercy, and tenderness--how what He wants for us is His peace because often, in the Bible, mankind is like an angry mob.

The Bible has nothing for you, Joe, so let it go. You think some of us see the Bible through the lens of Disneyland. Rather, it is you who have the lens--but your lens is that of monsters in the closet or under your bed.

As I have already mentioned, Biblical authors noted and wrote about two conditions that affect human life: Evil erased, and people given a chance to start anew and bad things happening to good people. The insights are wise: Even a new beginning in life does not guarantee no evil--we bring it with us. And, trust in what is good for the sorrow and grief one goes through will pass, and goodness is always before us. Both are true In Your Time, In their time, and in future times. This is why the Bible is timeless and why attacks against it fall way short.

How is that for filling in the blanks?

 

[JoeB131]

The blank is that you have nothing but contempt for God, the Bible, and its authors. Then there is the problem you have with identifying the various aspects in literature. I have a feeling it is not just nuns you hate, it is God, Himself. You want to destroy anything that has anything to do with God.

That's like saying I hate Unicorns and Lepruchauns.... I don't think they exist either.

But you think God is real and the Bible is his inspired word. So a God in the bible who drowns all the babies is good because...___________________________

Come on, you can do it.

Once again, you see the Book of Judges as a book about God--not a book about the politics and politicians of that time.

Actually, what I see it as is a major retcon. It was written at a time when the Kings were in charge of Israel, but they probably weren't doing a particularly good job, as the Kingdom fell apart after the third one or so. So, yeah, there was a need to rewrite them in such a way that the Judges seemed to be much, much worse.

You ignore every mention of God's love, mercy, and tenderness--how what He wants for us is His peace because often, in the Bible, mankind is like an angry mob.

Yeah, mostly because in the OT, God spends so much time killing people or demanding people be killed. You know, like sending two bears to maul 42 kids to death because they mocked a bald prophet.

Yes, this is really in the bible. The nuns didn't talk about this story, either.

The Bible has nothing for you, Joe, so let it go.

That's not true, it provides me with endless laughs.

As I have already mentioned, Biblical authors noted and wrote about two conditions that affect human life: Evil erased, and people given a chance to start anew and bad things happening to good people. The insights are wise: Even a new beginning in life does not guarantee no evil--we bring it with us. And, trust in what is good for the sorrow and grief one goes through will pass, and goodness is always before us. Both are true In Your Time, In their time, and in future times. This is why the Bible is timeless and why attacks against it fall way short.

How is that for filling in the blanks?

Actually, it still doesn't. It was a simple question.

How can a God who drowns BABIES be considered "good". in any way.

Now, I would FEAR a God who could do that, if he actually existed. The problem with your Christianity is that it isn't based on "love", it's based on fear. Do what we tell you, or you will be punished, in this life or the next. Usually far in disproportion to what you actually did. Unless you GROVEL, which is another fear response.

 

[Meriweather]

So a God in the bible who drowns all the babies

But God didn't. A natural disaster occurred, and people drowned, including babies. Or, do you not believe in natural disasters...that even today, it is God zapping babies? It is all in your head, Joe. It is only in your own head that God drowns babies. Along with it is probably the thought that God also kills mothers of little boys. No, you do not think of God as a leprechaun or a unicorn. You think of Him as the monster in your closet, the troll under the bridge. Your worst nightmare.

 

[ding]

No wonder Joey can't accept the existence of God. The world is too confusing for him.

 

[JoeB131]

But God didn't. A natural disaster occurred, and people drowned, including babies.

It wasn't a natural disaster, God specifically told Noah he was going to kill everyone, so build him a boat.

Or, do you not believe in natural disasters...that even today, it is God zapping babies? It is all in your head, Joe. It is only in your own head that God drowns babies.

Okay, you are getting off the track here, let me see if we can get you back on track.

The bible is a bunch of bullshit stories. There wasn't a world wide flood.

But if you accept that it is the word of God, the text of Genesis 6-9 is pretty clear. God was upset with mankind using that free will thing to make choices he didn't like. So he decided that he was going to flood the entire world, except for 8 people and a bunch of animals.

Now, every mythology has some version of a flood story, basically race memories of the end of the ice age when floods were common.

But the morality tale is that God, who created us and loves us, decided to kill most of us for making choices he didn't like. Including the babies.

How is he the "Good guy" here again?

 

[LittleNipper]

That's like saying I hate Unicorns and Lepruchauns.... I don't think they exist either.

But you think God is real and the Bible is his inspired word. So a God in the bible who drowns all the babies is good because...___________________________

Come on, you can do it.



Actually, what I see it as is a major retcon. It was written at a time when the Kings were in charge of Israel, but they probably weren't doing a particularly good job, as the Kingdom fell apart after the third one or so. So, yeah, there was a need to rewrite them in such a way that the Judges seemed to be much, much worse.



Yeah, mostly because in the OT, God spends so much time killing people or demanding people be killed. You know, like sending two bears to maul 42 kids to death because they mocked a bald prophet.

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Yes, this is really in the bible. The nuns didn't talk about this story, either.



That's not true, it provides me with endless laughs.



Actually, it still doesn't. It was a simple question.

How can a God who drowns BABIES be considered "good". in any way.

Now, I would FEAR a God who could do that, if he actually existed. The problem with your Christianity is that it isn't based on "love", it's based on fear. Do what we tell you, or you will be punished, in this life or the next. Usually far in disproportion to what you actually did. Unless you GROVEL, which is another fear response.

If GOD doesn't exist, then neither do you. As for the FLOOD, man showed nothing but contempt even while Noah preached. The simple fact is that GOD did what HE did or allowed what HE allowed to prevent man from destroying himself completely. GOD had a plan to save the souls of those that would come in the future ----- but only a future that contained the FLOOD.

 

[Meriweather]

Okay, you are getting off the track here, let me see if we can get you back on track.

You want me on your track, Joe, and I'm not traveling along that warped perspective. As I said, I wish you peace. You are not the only person I know who lost a parent at a young age, and any belief in God along with it. However, you are singular in hate and bitterness toward both God and people, and you are unwilling to let go of it.

 

[JoeB131]

If GOD doesn't exist, then neither do you. As for the FLOOD, man showed nothing but contempt even while Noah preached. The simple fact is that GOD did what HE did or allowed what HE allowed to prevent man from destroying himself completely. GOD had a plan to save the souls of those that would come in the future ----- but only a future that contained the FLOOD.

Okay, that still doesn't tell me why God killed all the babies and can still be a "good" person.

There's actually nothing in the Bible that says how Noah's neighbors reacted to the crazy guy building the big boat in his yard.

You want me on your track, Joe, and I'm not traveling along that warped perspective. As I said, I wish you peace. You are not the only person I know who lost a parent at a young age, and any belief in God along with it. However, you are singular in hate and bitterness toward both God and people, and you are unwilling to let go of it.

Leave my parents out of it. This has to do with how you guys try to Disneyfy some nasty bronze age superstitions and impose them on the rest of us.

Now, one more time. HOW IS A GOD WHO DROWNS BABIES "GOOD"? It's a simple question. You don't have an answer. At least Sister Mary Butch had an answer, the old hag.

 

[Meriweather]

Leave my parents out of it. This has to do with how you guys try to Disneyfy some nasty bronze age superstitions and impose them on the rest of us.

No. This has to do with how you interpret the Bible do to personal events in your life. As you are an atheist, nothing at all has been imposed on you--just as it has never been imposed on the atheists in my family. It is your reaction to the events in your life, Joe--nothing more, nothing less--that has resulted in your nasty perspective of the intelligent observations and accounts of what you dismiss as stupid Bronze Age man--just as you dismiss most of today's believers as stupid.

It is said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and if this is true, then so, too, is ugliness in the eye of the beholder.

Again, Peace. Peace is my greatest wish for you.

 

[Meriweather]

Now, one more time.

Asked and answered many times. God did not drown babies. It was a natural disaster.

Another way of looking at it: Even today, some cultures believe no one can lift as much as a finger without it first being the will of God. If they decide to kill someone, and it comes about, it was by the will of God. I would think you, of all people, would know better, but you are giving me doubts.

On the other hand, if you want, you can say that God has "killed" every person who ever lived, not just the babies of Noah's time. On the entire earth at that time (the parts the flood did not cover) how many babies died of disease, starvation, other natural disasters. Do you believe God was/has been killing babies down through time? Or, do you simply think He "must" have targeted just the babies who lived in Noah's flood area?

Outside of the lame attempt to blacken the name of God, you are making very little sense--until one takes into account your family history and your personal grief.

 

[JoeB131]

No. This has to do with how you interpret the Bible do to personal events in your life. As you are an atheist, nothing at all has been imposed on you--just as it has never been imposed on the atheists in my family. It is your reaction to the events in your life, Joe--nothing more, nothing less--that has resulted in your nasty perspective of the intelligent observations and accounts of what you dismiss as stupid Bronze Age man--just as you dismiss most of today's believers as stupid.

Sister, Religious people aren't intelligent. My estimate of someone's intellect drops a point every time they say "God" in a non-ironic way. Now, don't get me wrong, if your bronze age superstitions are the only thing keeping most of you from going on a murder spree, please keep believing that.

But one more time, "God was good for killing babies because ____________________"

Please answer the question and stop avoiding it. Why did ALL THOSE BABIES NEED TO DIE?

 

[JoeB131]

Asked and answered many times. God did not drown babies. It was a natural disaster.

It wasn't a natural Disaster. Do you people read the book, ever?


6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
God saw that humans were wicked and he regretted making them. [4]
6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

He totally drowned all those babies on purpose...

On the other hand, if you want, you can say that God has "killed" every person who ever lived, not just the babies of Noah's time. On the entire earth at that time (the parts the flood did not cover) how many babies died of disease, starvation, other natural disasters. Do you believe God was/has been killing babies down through time? Or, do you simply think He "must" have targeted just the babies who lived in Noah's flood area?

Um, yeah, read the above verse, God did EXACTLY that. He intentionally caused a flood that would drown all those babies.

According to the bible, the WHOLE WORLD was flooded. The entire human race save Noah and his family were wiped out....

How does a God who does that count as "Good" in any way, shape or form?

Outside of the lame attempt to blacken the name of God,

I'm just repeating what is in the Bible... God's actions in the story is what makes him a jerk, not what I say about it... God in the Old Testament is an angry,petulant diety with the ethics of a Batman Villain and the pettiness of Donald Trump. It's why you Christians like to try to pretend the OT isn't a thing.

I haven't even touched on how he murdered all the Children of Sodom (but managed to save Lot, a guy who offered his daughters up for gang rape before having drunken sex with them himself) or how he murdered the baby of David and Bathsheba to teach David a lesson, I guess? Not sure what the baby did wrong, exactly.

 

[Meriweather]

your bronze age superstitions

Here is what you do not understand. Religious practices is the wisdom that guides me through life in the twenty-first century. If it also guided Bronze Age people in their lives in past eras, it simply shows the strength of truths. God is love, and I have experienced that love. God IS. The reality of the effects of God's Way in one's life cannot be denied and therefore will not be denied by people of belief, people of faith.

I am sorry you have no wish to delve into the literature, meanings, and themes of the story of Noah. All you see is death. I understand that as death has been a great part of your life. But there is more to life, more to anyone's story than death.

Peace.