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When Is Intentionally Targeting Civilians Not a War Crime?

martybegan

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The Big One dropped on Nagasaki and Heroshima was intended to kill as many civilians as it took to make the Bushido Japanese holdouts surrender unconditionally.
Dropping both of those bombs saved civilian lives.
Speculation.
Not really. If the US had gone with Operation Downfall and invaded mainland Japan. Millions of Japanese could have died.
That was not the only other option. It is still mere speculation.

Of course it's speculation, but based on the data at hand.

Even worse, if the Invasion would have faltered we probably would have had to ask the Soviets for help, and they would have a price.

Picture a "North Japan" and "South Japan"
Imagine if Iwo Jima had never happened. How many more members might be here talking about their grandfathers?

Iwo Jima happened because the Japanese would not accept unconditional surrender. the 2 atom bombs happened because the Japanese wouldn't accept unconditional surrender.
 

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Do you detect a pattern here? The so-called "Palestinians" know that there will be no repercussions with the Biden Administration, regardless of what atrocities they commit.
Palestinians committing atrocities ? Hahahahahahahaha
Let me guess...you voted for trump ?
 

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As Slaughterhouse-Five suggests, the bombing of Dresdon was a war crime and human atrocity even worse than the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No Kabbalistic numbers in terms of deaths, maybe 144,000? :dunno: but they are minimized by the MSM.

Back on topic, I would not be surprised if the Kabbalistic state which was founded on actual terroristic bombing is actually hiring someone to launch the bombs. The bombs certainly do not help the Palestinian cause and they generally do not injure anyone.
Eisenhower had a huge hand in the bombing of Dresdan murdering civilains.He as well violated the red cross by starving german POW,many being civilians including women and everybody thought he was such a great president.:cuckoo:

the reality of the deal is the majority of our presidents have committed crimes and atrocities that rival stalins.
 

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The Big One dropped on Nagasaki and Heroshima was intended to kill as many civilians as it took to make the Bushido Japanese holdouts surrender unconditionally.
Dropping both of those bombs saved civilian lives.
Speculation.
Not really. If the US had gone with Operation Downfall and invaded mainland Japan. Millions of Japanese could have died.
That was not the only other option. It is still mere speculation.

Of course it's speculation, but based on the data at hand.

Even worse, if the Invasion would have faltered we probably would have had to ask the Soviets for help, and they would have a price.

Picture a "North Japan" and "South Japan"
Imagine if Iwo Jima had never happened. How many more members might be here talking about their grandfathers?

Iwo Jima happened because the Japanese would not accept unconditional surrender. the 2 atom bombs happened because the Japanese wouldn't accept unconditional surrender.
bullshit,thats a lie that you have swallowed from the MSM corporate controlled media.
 

martybegan

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The Big One dropped on Nagasaki and Heroshima was intended to kill as many civilians as it took to make the Bushido Japanese holdouts surrender unconditionally.
Dropping both of those bombs saved civilian lives.
Speculation.
Not really. If the US had gone with Operation Downfall and invaded mainland Japan. Millions of Japanese could have died.
That was not the only other option. It is still mere speculation.

Of course it's speculation, but based on the data at hand.

Even worse, if the Invasion would have faltered we probably would have had to ask the Soviets for help, and they would have a price.

Picture a "North Japan" and "South Japan"
Imagine if Iwo Jima had never happened. How many more members might be here talking about their grandfathers?

Iwo Jima happened because the Japanese would not accept unconditional surrender. the 2 atom bombs happened because the Japanese wouldn't accept unconditional surrender.
bullshit,thats a lie that you have swallowed from the MSM corporate controlled media.

Nice retort with nothing to back it up.

The Japanese army wanted 4 conditions, 3 of which were 100% non-starters for the Allies.

It took the bomb to allow the Navy and the Civilians the juice they needed to get the Emperor to agree to the Potsdam Declaration.
 

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The Big One dropped on Nagasaki and Heroshima was intended to kill as many civilians as it took to make the Bushido Japanese holdouts surrender unconditionally.
Dropping both of those bombs saved civilian lives.
Speculation.
Not really. If the US had gone with Operation Downfall and invaded mainland Japan. Millions of Japanese could have died.
That was not the only other option. It is still mere speculation.

Of course it's speculation, but based on the data at hand.

Even worse, if the Invasion would have faltered we probably would have had to ask the Soviets for help, and they would have a price.

Picture a "North Japan" and "South Japan"
Imagine if Iwo Jima had never happened. How many more members might be here talking about their grandfathers?

Iwo Jima happened because the Japanese would not accept unconditional surrender. the 2 atom bombs happened because the Japanese wouldn't accept unconditional surrender.
NO, they happened because fdr made damn sure they would.
 

martybegan

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The Big One dropped on Nagasaki and Heroshima was intended to kill as many civilians as it took to make the Bushido Japanese holdouts surrender unconditionally.
Dropping both of those bombs saved civilian lives.
Speculation.
Not really. If the US had gone with Operation Downfall and invaded mainland Japan. Millions of Japanese could have died.
That was not the only other option. It is still mere speculation.

Of course it's speculation, but based on the data at hand.

Even worse, if the Invasion would have faltered we probably would have had to ask the Soviets for help, and they would have a price.

Picture a "North Japan" and "South Japan"
Imagine if Iwo Jima had never happened. How many more members might be here talking about their grandfathers?

Iwo Jima happened because the Japanese would not accept unconditional surrender. the 2 atom bombs happened because the Japanese wouldn't accept unconditional surrender.
NO, they happened because fdr made damn sure they would.

Same terms the Germans got, and even then the Allies acquiesced on the Emperor.
 

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The Big One dropped on Nagasaki and Heroshima was intended to kill as many civilians as it took to make the Bushido Japanese holdouts surrender unconditionally.
Dropping both of those bombs saved civilian lives.
Speculation.
Not really. If the US had gone with Operation Downfall and invaded mainland Japan. Millions of Japanese could have died.
That was not the only other option. It is still mere speculation.

Of course it's speculation, but based on the data at hand.

Even worse, if the Invasion would have faltered we probably would have had to ask the Soviets for help, and they would have a price.

Picture a "North Japan" and "South Japan"
Imagine if Iwo Jima had never happened. How many more members might be here talking about their grandfathers?

Iwo Jima happened because the Japanese would not accept unconditional surrender. the 2 atom bombs happened because the Japanese wouldn't accept unconditional surrender.
bullshit,thats a lie that you have swallowed from the MSM corporate controlled media.

Nice retort with nothing to back it up.

The Japanese army wanted 4 conditions, 3 of which were 100% non-starters for the Allies.

It took the bomb to allow the Navy and the Civilians the juice they needed to get the Emperor to agree to the Potsdam Declaration.
You have clearly fallen for the msm lies of the cia controlled media sheep and have not done your homework.
 

martybegan

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The Big One dropped on Nagasaki and Heroshima was intended to kill as many civilians as it took to make the Bushido Japanese holdouts surrender unconditionally.
Dropping both of those bombs saved civilian lives.
Speculation.
Not really. If the US had gone with Operation Downfall and invaded mainland Japan. Millions of Japanese could have died.
That was not the only other option. It is still mere speculation.

Of course it's speculation, but based on the data at hand.

Even worse, if the Invasion would have faltered we probably would have had to ask the Soviets for help, and they would have a price.

Picture a "North Japan" and "South Japan"
Imagine if Iwo Jima had never happened. How many more members might be here talking about their grandfathers?

Iwo Jima happened because the Japanese would not accept unconditional surrender. the 2 atom bombs happened because the Japanese wouldn't accept unconditional surrender.
bullshit,thats a lie that you have swallowed from the MSM corporate controlled media.

Nice retort with nothing to back it up.

The Japanese army wanted 4 conditions, 3 of which were 100% non-starters for the Allies.

It took the bomb to allow the Navy and the Civilians the juice they needed to get the Emperor to agree to the Potsdam Declaration.
You have clearly fallen for the msm lies of the cia controlled media sheep and have not done your homework.

No, I read the history of the events as described by multiple historical records and books.
 

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Condemnation is always appropriate when targeting of civilians is intentional.
That is true in most cases, but in others they call it collateral damage....

I'm not certain Israel chose civilians to target, and only civilians as their intended target... They claim the civilians are used as human shields for Hamas, and targeted Hamas infrastructure of sorts, sites.... Of course we laymen have no way of really knowing....???

But we should also take NOTE, that all those Hamas fired missiles that Israel's missile defense system is shooting down in the air, WERE HEADING in to Jewish neighborhoods, which likely would have killed innocent civilian Jews as well!!!
 

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Condemnation is always appropriate when targeting of civilians is intentional.
That is true in most cases, but in others they call it collateral damage....

I'm not certain Israel chose civilians to target, and only civilians as their intended target... They claim the civilians are used as human shields for Hamas, and targeted Hamas infrastructure of sorts, sites.... Of course we laymen have no way of really knowing....???

But we should also take NOTE, that all those Hamas fired missiles that Israel's missile defense system is shooting down in the air, WERE HEADING in to Jewish neighborhoods, which likely would have killed innocent civilian Jews as well!!!
Israel targets family homes all the time knowing that they are blowing up mom and the kids. They bomb entire families out of existence.
 

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As Slaughterhouse-Five suggests, the bombing of Dresdon was a war crime and human atrocity even worse than the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No Kabbalistic numbers in terms of deaths, maybe 144,000? :dunno: but they are minimized by the MSM.

Back on topic, I would not be surprised if the Kabbalistic state which was founded on actual terroristic bombing is actually hiring someone to launch the bombs. The bombs certainly do not help the Palestinian cause and they generally do not injure anyone.
Eisenhower had a huge hand in the bombing of Dresdan murdering civilains.He as well violated the red cross by starving german POW,many being civilians including women and everybody thought he was such a great president.:cuckoo:

the reality of the deal is the majority of our presidents have committed crimes and atrocities that rival stalins.
Bullshit the entire history of the US comes no where close to Stalin's death toll, which is somewhere north of 20 Million.
 

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