When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

jc456 said:
POLITICS RIGHT?

BTW, if it wasn't political, why is it divides down party lines?
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Most people care about their politics above everything else.
 
Leo123 said:
Yep, one can only wonder how some dim-bulb, low IQ, idiot can compare a stubbed toe to a murder of a pregnant woman. I think some of these folks have lost it.
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Now, just to see their point, we have to dismiss the entire Justice System?

I think the ignore option is a good one, but it won't be the justice system that I will be ignoring.
 
pknopp said:
And one that ignores their needs once born.
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Not at all. Any woman can give up her child to be taken care of. Firestations have baby boxes, any emergency room will take custody. It is not up to society to fulfill the needs of all children and stand in loco parentis. If a woman cannot take care of her baby, she's not stranded.

In history, women had children with responsible men. Actually, men were raised to be responsible and grow up with the understanding that they would one day have to be responsible fathers. Women had families that stepped in to help. There was no need to have the government step in as provider and baby sitter. If anything, "the needs of the children" being filled by government underscores the breakdown on the entire family structure. Government being the dad that steps up has relieved men of any sense of responsibility and allowed them to stay in a protracted period of adolescence.
 
pknopp said:
People who adopt are wonderful.
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Well, if the people you seem to follow get their way, there will be no children to adopt. They would have been murdered before they were even born.
 
EvilCat Breath said:
Not at all. Any woman can give up her child to be taken care of. Firestations have baby boxes, any emergency room will take custody. It is not up to society to fulfill the needs of all children and stand in loco parentis. If a woman cannot take care of her baby, she's not stranded.

In history, women had children with responsible men.
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Not true. Men would even drop their wives and children off in insane asylums because they no longer wanted to be responsible for them.


EvilCat Breath said:
Actually, men were raised to be responsible and grow up with the understanding that they would one day have to be responsible fathers. Women had families that stepped in to help. There was no need to have the government step in as provider and baby sitter. If anything, "the needs of the children" being filled by government underscores the breakdown on the entire family structure. Government being the dad that steps up has relieved men of any sense of responsibility and allowed them to stay in a protracted period of adolescence.
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Your society never existed.
 
EvilCat Breath said:
Not at all. Any woman can give up her child to be taken care of. Firestations have baby boxes, any emergency room will take custody. It is not up to society to fulfill the needs of all children and stand in loco parentis. If a woman cannot take care of her baby, she's not stranded.

In history, women had children with responsible men. Actually, men were raised to be responsible and grow up with the understanding that they would one day have to be responsible fathers. Women had families that stepped in to help. There was no need to have the government step in as provider and baby sitter. If anything, "the needs of the children" being filled by government underscores the breakdown on the entire family structure. Government being the dad that steps up has relieved men of any sense of responsibility and allowed them to stay in a protracted period of adolescence.
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Very true. With the advent of the pushing of Socialism, men don't even have to be men anymore. It's getting pretty crazy.
 
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Scott Peterson was found guilty of murdering his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner, in 2004. He was sentenced to life in prison for his cowardly double murder.
 
Leo123 said:
Very true. With the advent of the pushing of Socialism, men don't even have to be men anymore. It's getting pretty crazy.
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Benjamin Franklin was set off to be an indentured servant because his dad couldn't afford to feed him.

It was quite common.
 
pknopp said:
Benjamin Franklin was set off to be an indentured servant because his dad couldn't afford to feed him.

It was quite common.
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Franklin was a trannie? Who knew? :omg:
 
pknopp said:
Not true. Men would even drop their wives and children off in insane asylums because they no longer wanted to be responsible for them.




Your society never existed.
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We have 73 million abortions a year. I guarantee you if, historically, 73 million men a year dropped their wives and children off at insane asylums it would have made the history books.
 
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