When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[whutTHEYsay]

We all have our definitions. Mine:

• "Human life" - Conception. It's obviously living, growing human tissue
• "A Human Life" - First heartbeat, approximately 6 weeks
• "Viable Human Life" - Around 22-24 weeks
• "Person" - Birth

Since abortion has been brought up, I'd agree with Republican Lyndsey Graham's 16-week limit approach. 12-16 weeks should be enough time for such a difficult decision.

That’s four weeks away from Rov V Wade at 20 weeks. Was Dobbs worth it?.

 

[Chuz Life]

You have a serious intellectual and spiritual failing if you thought the Republican Party was going to deliver fetal personhood for your fundamentalist belief in Christianity being the Laws of the land - Trump only wanted your VOTE and your money nothing more.

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Not religious fucktard. Try again.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Not religious fucktard. Try again.

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The fucktard is a sock.

I keep it in my STFU Cage® where it has nothing to say.

Best not even engage it, for your own sanity.


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[tahuyaman]

When is an embryo/fetus a human life?​

Human life starts at conception.

 

[tahuyaman]

But does it have human consciousness? I'm not so sure.

Does that matter?

 

[tahuyaman]

Right, so that's the argument that it's a potential life, not that it actually is a human life. So by the same logic, a sperm cell can potentially result in a human life, but that doesn't mean that a person using a condom should be charged with murder.

A fertilized egg growing inside a woman is a human life. Period.

 

[toobfreak]

Human life starts at conception.​

I hope so, otherwise, next time a doctor tells a woman she is pregnant, I'd be curious to know what kind of life he tells her is growing inside her---- maybe a fern or a hummingbird?

 

[Chuz Life]

I hope so, otherwise, next time a doctor tells a woman she is pregnant, I'd be curious to know what kind of life he tells her is growing inside her---- maybe a fern or a hummingbird?

(leftard response)

"Oh I love ferns and humming birds"

 

[Chuz Life]

I hope so, otherwise, next time a doctor tells a woman she is pregnant, I'd be curious to know what kind of life he tells her is growing inside her---- maybe a fern or a hummingbird?

I think it's great and almost too much to be coincidence that we both have a comparable ability to focus and apply logic to even the most complex and minute details of a subject, and we both have an electronics background.

Just an observation and I can't look at your avatar without making that connection.

 

[Midnight FM]

I hope so, otherwise, next time a doctor tells a woman she is pregnant, I'd be curious to know what kind of life he tells her is growing inside her---- maybe a fern or a hummingbird?

So in others, it's growing into a human life, but isn't a human life yet.

 

[Midnight FM]

A fertilized egg growing inside a woman is a human life. Period.

Nope. It has no brain or consciousness to speak of.

 

[Chuz Life]

So in others, it's growing into a human life, but isn't a human life yet.

Dude, use your head.

Answer the ******* question.

"Were YOU conceived?"

 

[toobfreak]

I think it's great and almost too much to be coincidence that we both have a comparable ability to focus and apply logic to even the most complex and minute details of a subject, and we both have an electronics background.

Not really too surprising CL. Several years ago, I think we were both on a thread here where we took some questionnaire that generated a chart on political leanings, and you and I as I recall both scored the two most conservative-leaning scores of the whole lot.

 

[Midnight FM]

Dude, use your head.

Answer the ******* question.

"Were YOU conceived?"

So in other words, someone initiated a process which lead to me coming into existence.

But that doesn't mean that I existed at the moment of conception. My consciousness certainly didn't, and that's what I identify with.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

So in others, it's growing into a human life, but isn't a human life yet.

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Ask a pregnant leftist who actually wants her child. She'll likely tell you different.

I knew a raving leftist who quit using birth control to trap her well-off boyfriend into marrying her. That was her precious child at every stage, until she became Mrs.


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[Chuz Life]

Not really too surprising CL. Several years ago, I think we were both on a thread here where we took some questionnaire that generated a chart on political leanings, and you and I as I recall both scored the two most conservative-leaning scores of the whole lot.

Weird, not to stray from the OP but, I don't tie my views on abortion or the idea of when life begins to "conservatism." I think of it as science and that SHOULD apply to conservatives and, leftards equally.

 

[Midnight FM]

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Ask a pregnant leftist who actually wants her child. She'll likely tell you different.

It doesn't matter what a person "says", what matters is the science.

I knew a raving leftist who quit using birth control to trap her well-off boyfriend into marrying her. That was her precious child at every stage, until she became Mrs.

Science doesn't agree with her. No brain, no consciousness, no human life to speak of.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Human life begins at implantation which is when it starts growing.

 

[toobfreak]

So in others, it's growing into a human life, but isn't a human life yet.

My last post to you:

No. No one "grows" into a human life--- you are /conceived/ biologically as a human, then you merely develop into a LARGER and increasingly more independent human life.

ALL mammals gestate in a womb first for a period of time proportional to their complexity until such time until they can live on their own outside the mother's body. That does not make them any less of what they are.

Case in point: there was recently a child born prematurely at only 20 or 21 weeks, a time when many babies are aborted. The child lived and is doing well. Last I checked, he is a human being, too.

Sayonara

 

[schmidlap]

Rather than endlessly quibble in semantics that fail to convince anyone of anything, why not just respect the beliefs of others, and grant them the freedom to follow their sincere beliefs, and leave politicians and bureaucrats out of such personal decisions entirely?