When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[schmidlap]

True. Let private groups squabble over the issue. Leave the government out of it. I'm against abortion, but at the end of the day it's none of my business.

Canada provides a viable alternative. Minimal government intrusion, and yet a lower rate of abortion than the U.S.

Abortion in Canada - Canada.ca

Getting an abortion, types of abortion, support and resources, what Canada’s doing, the history of abortion in Canada.

www.canada.ca

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Abortion Rates by Country 2026

Detailed data on abortion rates by country, offering insights into the prevalence of abortion procedures across different nations worldwide.

worldpopulationreview.com

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[Woodznutz]

Canada provides a viable alternative. Minimal government intrusion, and yet a lower rate of abortion than the U.S.

Abortion in Canada - Canada.ca

Getting an abortion, types of abortion, support and resources, what Canada’s doing, the history of abortion in Canada.

www.canada.ca

​

Abortion Rates by Country 2026

Detailed data on abortion rates by country, offering insights into the prevalence of abortion procedures across different nations worldwide.

worldpopulationreview.com

​

Fewer minority folks in Canada.

 

[Hafar1014]

No, but since you ask it - all individuals are endowed with certain unalienable rights, including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
No one "owns" another human life.

The mother does since the fetus is part of her body which is her property.

 

[schmidlap]

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Like the ghouls who believe they are defending children's rights by trying to convince them that they were born in the wrong body, gender-wise, and trying to teach them how to perform homosexual acts.


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Deniers of medical science that recognizes gender dysphoria make such hysterical claims.

 

[schmidlap]

Fewer minority folks in Canada.

Fewer coercive laws, fewer abortions.

Please show your survey of abortion by race in Canada.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

And? Eagles eggs are endangered species. Humans aren't.

U.S. birth rate hits all-time low, CDC data shows

The birth rate in the U.S. dropped to a record low in 2024 with fewer than 1.6 children per woman, newly-released federal data shows.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[schmidlap]

Why do the statists believe that pregnant females in the United States need to be controlled by politicians and bureaucrats?

 

[Woodznutz]

Fewr coercive laws, fewer abortions.

Please show your survey of abortion by race in Canada.

I doubt that there are fewer abortions there because of lax laws. I think Canadians are just smarter.

I was comparing it to the U.S. where so many abortions involved minorities, especially blacks.

 

[Woodznutz]

U.S. birth rate hits all-time low, CDC data shows

The birth rate in the U.S. dropped to a record low in 2024 with fewer than 1.6 children per woman, newly-released federal data shows.

www.cbsnews.com

Many who would have liked to have children don't want to bring children into this crazy world. Others just don't want to be bothered with raising children. Who can blame them when everything good that they teach their children will be undone by the state.

 

[schmidlap]

I doubt that there are fewer abortions there because of lax laws. I think Canadians are just smarter.

I was comparing it to the U.S. where so many abortions involved minorities, especially blacks.

You are entitled to your personal opinions.

I note, as a matter of record, that Canada has far fewer intrusive abortion laws and fewer abortions.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

We are supposed to be intelligent. Therefore, proper methods to prevent pregnancies are available and should be used with that logic. It is you who spews humans have evolved and that Progressives are intellectually superior to all. Yet most of the abortions are from Progressives.

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That's where the trail always leads.

Readily available abortion has made too many women too stupid or lazy to use other forms of birth control.


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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Abortion is not contraception.

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There are too many women who cannot grasp this fact. Mostly those who call abortion "health care".


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[schmidlap]

Many who would have liked to have children don't want to bring children into this crazy world. Others just don't want to be bothered with raising children. Who can blame them when everything good that they teach their children will be undone by the state.

Such propaganda prejudices many, but I have never seen this expressed as a reason a woman chooses abortion. Can you cite any such instances?

 

[Nostra]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

An amoeba is alive.

Has no brain, no heart.

Life begins at conception.

 

[j-mac]

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There are too many women who cannot grasp this fact. Mostly those who call abortion "health care".


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I absolutely hate when that term is used for abortion...It's actually evil in the intent to subvert and flip the language.

 

[schmidlap]

Readily available abortion has made too many women too stupid or lazy to use other forms of birth control.

You persist in spouting your prejudices with no credible statistics.

Your dried up old geezers dictating to women is not what Americans support.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I absolutely hate when that term is used for abortion...It's actually evil in the intent to subvert and flip the language.

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What makes me very optimistic today is seeing the obvious trend of the reversal of the way the "progressives" have bullied this culture into accepting their perversion of the language.


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[j-mac]

Parents own their children until they of "age". After that the government owns them.

I know you're being somewhat facetious in this statement....While I agree that Government intrusion in our lives is far too great, they don't "own" you.

As for parents "owning" the child. Children are individual human beings, and parents have the responsibility to raise those humans, teach them, provide for them, and educate them so that they become productive adults. They don't OWN them...They're not dogs, or cats for Christ sake...

 

[Woodznutz]

I know you're being somewhat facetious in this statement....While I agree that Government intrusion in our lives is far too great, they don't "own" you.

As for parents "owning" the child. Children are individual human beings, and parents have the responsibility to raise those humans, teach them, provide for them, and educate them so that they become productive adults. They don't OWN them...They're not dogs, or cats for Christ sake...

So, we can't call them "our" kids?

 

[j-mac]

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What makes me very optimistic today is seeing the obvious trend of the reversal of the way the "progressives" have bullied this culture into accepting their perversion of the language.


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The right is definitely fighting back on the ridiculous nature of the left to bend, and distort the language and what it means..That's a good thing for sure.

But, it isn't reversed. The left, especially in our education system are continuing to do this, however, their sights now are on the primary education of the youngest of us....This should be purely unacceptable to ANY parent...