When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[j-mac]

I disagree.

A government that claims power over the contents of a person's body is a government with far too much power.

It’s not the woman’s body they’re trying to protect. Now, no one, or I should very few would object if the doctor says the life of the mother is in doubt, but that isn’t what’s going on in 99% of these cases.

 

[j-mac]

I totally agree. But I don't think government is there to right all wrongs and prevent all evil. It can't, and it shouldn't try. Some things are beyond the reach of the state, or should be. Procreation is one of those things.

Do the deed, live with the consequences.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Do the deed, live with the consequences.

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A woman who does not want children has always had the same choice. Don't have sex.

Guaranteed, no one has ever died from not having sex.


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[Care4all]

NOT TALKING ABOUT ABORTION.....

Legally, the child has life, when he or she takes their first breath outside of the womb....if they do not take that first breath, with or without medical machinery help, the baby is considered stillborn....born dead.

Scientifically the human or any species living fertilized egg, yes from Conception, it is a species being formed in to an individual and is made up of living cells or even living organs in time....
with humans, it's being formed in to a person....

With Adam, God formed Adam...but Adam did not have life until God breathed life in to him, not until the first breath taken, did Adam have LIFE.

I think when a foetus in the womb is developed enough that they can take their first breath and survive outside of the womb with or without medical assistance, they have life...I think foetuses can survive without mom, outside of the womb, at around 22 weeks of development now with medical improvements, out of the 39 weeks of full pregnancy.

 

[Moonglow]

A lazy sperm cell?

Whoever heard of such a thing?

Homer Simpson

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

What is "life"? You probably need to answer that before we can actually say when it starts.

 

[Midnight FM]

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A woman who does not want children has always had the same choice. Don't have sex.

Guaranteed, no one has ever died from not having sex.


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No one's obligated to make that choice. They can have sex if they want to, and there's no imperative that they should expect pregnancy.

Do the deed, live with the consequences.

Nope. There are plenty of ways to mitigate the consequences. The idea that the only way mitigate the consequences is to completely avoid sex is pretty silly.

 

[dblack]

Do the deed, live with the consequences.

Suck a tailpipe. We're discussing what those consequences should be.

 

[j-mac]

Suck a tailpipe. We're discussing what those consequences should be.

I don’t believe in murdering an unborn child for the convenience of the mother. And it’s documented, by the liberal Guttmacher institute, upwards of 97% of all abortions are for convenience. Shameful.

 

[Mr Natural]

I don’t believe in murdering an unborn child for the convenience of the mother. And it’s documented, by the liberal Guttmacher institute, upwards of 97% of all abortions are for convenience. Shameful.

And if she can live with it, it’s on her.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I don’t believe in murdering an unborn child for the convenience of the mother. And it’s documented, by the liberal Guttmacher institute, upwards of 97% of all abortions are for convenience. Shameful.

Lie.

 

[j-mac]

And if she can live with it, it’s on her.

If she can, or can’t is on her…we know what causes conception.

 

[j-mac]

Lie.

What’s the lie?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I don’t believe in murdering an unborn child for the convenience of the mother. And it’s documented, by the liberal Guttmacher institute, upwards of 97% of all abortions are for convenience. Shameful.

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In a six month period that I worked for a doctor who performed abortions as a small part of his practice, back in 1981-82, there were two patients who had more than one abortion in that six month period of time.

That's birth control. For one of them, a woman in her early twenties, it was her fifth and sixth abortions.

That's birth control.


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[j-mac]

Study/Survey	Year	Percentage Seeking Abortion for Convenience	Key Reasons Cited
Guttmacher Institute	2019	93%	Financial concerns, relationship issues, life goals
CDC	2020	90%	Lack of resources, timing issues
AAPLOG Survey	2018	85%	Lack of support, personal circumstances
Pew Research Center	2021	92%	Cultural stigma, financial instability

This table illustrates that a significant majority—ranging from 85% to 93%—of individuals seeking abortions do so primarily due to convenience-related reasons.

What Percentage Of Abortions Are For Convenience? | Clear Insights

Research indicates that about 93% of abortions are obtained for reasons related to convenience, including personal, financial, and social factors.

wellwisp.com

The pattern is clear....Women are killing their babies for convenience reasons at an overwhelming rate, and this is morally reprehensible.

 

[ChemEngineer]

"We don't want word to get out that we are trying to eliminate the negro population." - Margaret Sanger, founder of murderous Planned Parenthood

A number of adults alive today were botched late term abortions by medical quacks. They are glad to be alive. Many young women attempted to murder their newborn babies and failed miserably. One dumped her baby in a dumpster and it was rescued by people who heard the baby crying. Another was buried in a field and a dog alerted its master to the newborn which was rescued and taken to a hospital.

"Choice" is a savage and sinful concept created purely for irresponsible selfishness.


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Moment of conception Moment of birth

Draw a vertical line through the above horizontal line of 9 months gestation of a human being's time in a mother's uterus where you contend "Life begins" and justify your reasoning. Spit the second.

LIfe begins at conception - medical fact. Ask any doctor who is ethical. In six weeks, a baby's heart is beating. A beating heart is the first thing any doctor checks, which is why you see them with stethoscopes around their necks.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

"We don't want word to get out that we are trying to eliminate the negro population." - Margaret Sanger, founder of murderous Planned Parenthood

A number of adults alive today were botched late term abortions by medical quacks. They are glad to be alive. Many young women attempted to murder their newborn babies and failed miserably. One dumped her baby in a dumpster and it was rescued by people who heard the baby crying. Another was buried in a field and a dog alerted its master to the newborn which was rescued and taken to a hospital.

"Choice" is a savage and sinful concept created purely for irresponsible selfishness.


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Moment of conception Moment of birth

Draw a vertical line through the above horizontal line of 9 months gestation of a human being's time in a mother's uterus where you contend "Life begins" and justify your reasoning. Spit the second.

LIfe begins at conception - medical fact. Ask any doctor who is ethical. In six weeks, a baby's heart is beating. A beating heart is the first thing any doctor checks, which is why you see them with stethoscopes around their necks.

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Begins at the moment of conception and ends at the moment of natural death.

We confirm this every Sunday in my church.


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[Chuz Life]

Incest is sex between people too closely related to marry. It's not about consent like rape.

Let me slow down for you ******* morons who can't comprehend the point.

1. If a father impregnates his own minor nonconsenting daughter.

That is RAPE not just a case of incest.

2. If a father and his of age daughter CONSENT to sex and she gets pregnant. (******* eww) That would not be a RAPE.

#1 is what the ******* rape exception to a ban on abortions is about. #2 is NOT.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

I'm not convinced that it is a human life from the moment of conception (given that it doesn't have a brain, for example), but at some point during pregnancy, I believe it qualifies as a human life.

If people are merely arguing that it is a "potential life" from the moment of conception, then preventing a potential life from coming into existence obviously isn't the same as taking a life from existence. (If that was true, then if a person only has 2 children when they have the ability to have 5 means they should be charged with 3 counts of murder, and we know that is absurd).

The minute you have wild unprotected sex is the moment of conception.

 

[Chuz Life]

NOT TALKING ABOUT ABORTION.....

Legally, the child has life, when he or she takes their first breath outside of the womb....if they do not take that first breath, with or without medical machinery help, the baby is considered stillborn....born dead.

Scientifically the human or any species living fertilized egg, yes from Conception, it is a species being formed in to an individual and is made up of living cells or even living organs in time....
with humans, it's being formed in to a person....

With Adam, God formed Adam...but Adam did not have life until God breathed life in to him, not until the first breath taken, did Adam have LIFE.

I think when a foetus in the womb is developed enough that they can take their first breath and survive outside of the womb with or without medical assistance, they have life...I think foetuses can survive without mom, outside of the womb, at around 22 weeks of development now with medical improvements, out of the 39 weeks of full pregnancy.

What is the broadest (most inclusive) legal definition for what a "natural person" is and please cite one that requires an ability to "breathe" through their lungs, instead of cellular respirations, the way that a child in the womb "breathes."