JimBowie1958
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You mean like Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Nebraska or many other sports teams that name themselves after their own students or a predominant profession?
When do you think Northam will resign as VA's Governor?
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The point is there are a lot of progressive socialists who never get called to the carpet. My brother in law Crippled Ken is from that state and he is an obnoxious redneck that puts a face of civility on. People don't want to lose their good jobs. And it makes you wonder about people's pasts. This is not good for Virginia. Are these guys transplants from other states?
The worst parts of Virginia are in NOVA, as the rest of us refer to Northern Virginia, that extremely wealthy, extremely insulated and extremely liberal belt around DC.
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We used to remove the rubber caps and then our weapons were confiscated. We had no second amendment protection from our parents.
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Being democrat means never to have to say you are sorry.
Only the GOP are racists, everyone knows that.
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JimBowie1958
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These mascots are named after groups they respect, for example the Houston Texans and the Pittsburg Steelers or Washington Redskins.
No one respects rednecks other than the rednecks themselves.
Frankly I consider myself to be a redneck and would happily view such a team with a Redneck mascot.
Redneck - Wikipedia
The term characterized farmers having a red neck caused by sunburn from hours working in the fields. A citation from 1893 provides a definition as "poorer inhabitants of the rural districts ... men who work in the field, as a matter of course, generally have their skin stained red and burnt by the sun, and especially is this true of the back of their necks".[9]
By 1900, "rednecks" was in common use to designate the political factions inside the Democratic Party comprising poor white farmers in the South.[10] The same group was also often called the "wool hat boys" (for they opposed the rich men, who wore expensive silk hats). A newspaper notice in Mississippi in August 1891 called on rednecks to rally at the polls at the upcoming primary election:[11]
Primary on the 25th.
And the "rednecks" will be there.
And the "Yaller-heels" will be there, also.
And the "hayseeds" and "gray dillers," they'll be there, too.
And the "subordinates" and "subalterns" will be there to rebuke their slanderers and traducers.
And the men who pay ten, twenty, thirty, etc. etc. per cent on borrowed money will be on hand, and they'll remember it, too.
By 1910, the political supporters of the Mississippi Democratic Party politician James K. Vardaman—chiefly poor white farmers—began to describe themselves proudly as "rednecks," even to the point of wearing red neckerchiefs to political rallies and picnics.[12]
Linguist Sterling Eisiminger, based on the testimony of informants from the Southern United States, speculated that the prevalence of pellagra in the region during the great depression may have contributed to the rise in popularity of the term; red, inflamed skin is one of the first symptoms of that disorder to appear.[13]
Coal miners
The term "redneck" in the early 20th century was occasionally used in reference to American coal miner union members who wore red bandanas for solidarity. The sense of "a union man" dates at least to the 1910s and was especially popular during the 1920s and 1930s in the coal-producing regions of West Virginia, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania.[14] It was also used by union strikers to describe poor white strikebreakers.[15]
Writers Edward Abbey and Dave Foreman also use "redneck" as a political call to mobilize poor rural white Southerners. "In Defense of the Redneck" was a popular essay by Ed Abbey. One popular early Earth First! bumper sticker was "Rednecks for Wilderness". Murray Bookchin, an urban leftist and social ecologist, objected strongly to Earth First!'s use of the term as "at the very least, insensitive".[16] However, many Southerners have proudly embraced the term as a self-identifier.[17][18] Similarly to Earth First!'s use, the self-described "anti-racist, pro-gun, pro-labor" group Redneck Revolt have used the term to signal its roots in the rural white working-class and celebration of what member Max Neely described as "redneck culture".[19]
As political epithet
According to Chapman and Kipfer in their "Dictionary of American Slang", By 1975 the term had expanded in meaning beyond the poor Southerner to refer to "a bigoted and conventional person, a loutish ultra-conservative."[20] For example, in 1960 John Barlow Martin expressed Senator John F. Kennedy should not enter the Indiana Democratic presidential primary because the state was "redneck conservative country." Indiana, he told Kennedy, was a state "suspicious of foreign entanglements, conservative in fiscal policy, and with a strong overlay of Southern segregationist sentiment."[21] Writer William Safire observes it is often used to attack white Southern conservatives, and more broadly to degrade working class and rural whites that are perceived by urban progressives to be insufficiently liberal.[22] At the same time, some white Southerners have reclaimed the word, using it with pride and defiance as a self-identifier.[23]
By 1900, "rednecks" was in common use to designate the political factions inside the Democratic Party comprising poor white farmers in the South.[10] The same group was also often called the "wool hat boys" (for they opposed the rich men, who wore expensive silk hats). A newspaper notice in Mississippi in August 1891 called on rednecks to rally at the polls at the upcoming primary election:[11]
Primary on the 25th.
And the "rednecks" will be there.
And the "Yaller-heels" will be there, also.
And the "hayseeds" and "gray dillers," they'll be there, too.
And the "subordinates" and "subalterns" will be there to rebuke their slanderers and traducers.
And the men who pay ten, twenty, thirty, etc. etc. per cent on borrowed money will be on hand, and they'll remember it, too.
By 1910, the political supporters of the Mississippi Democratic Party politician James K. Vardaman—chiefly poor white farmers—began to describe themselves proudly as "rednecks," even to the point of wearing red neckerchiefs to political rallies and picnics.[12]
Linguist Sterling Eisiminger, based on the testimony of informants from the Southern United States, speculated that the prevalence of pellagra in the region during the great depression may have contributed to the rise in popularity of the term; red, inflamed skin is one of the first symptoms of that disorder to appear.[13]
Coal miners
The term "redneck" in the early 20th century was occasionally used in reference to American coal miner union members who wore red bandanas for solidarity. The sense of "a union man" dates at least to the 1910s and was especially popular during the 1920s and 1930s in the coal-producing regions of West Virginia, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania.[14] It was also used by union strikers to describe poor white strikebreakers.[15]
Writers Edward Abbey and Dave Foreman also use "redneck" as a political call to mobilize poor rural white Southerners. "In Defense of the Redneck" was a popular essay by Ed Abbey. One popular early Earth First! bumper sticker was "Rednecks for Wilderness". Murray Bookchin, an urban leftist and social ecologist, objected strongly to Earth First!'s use of the term as "at the very least, insensitive".[16] However, many Southerners have proudly embraced the term as a self-identifier.[17][18] Similarly to Earth First!'s use, the self-described "anti-racist, pro-gun, pro-labor" group Redneck Revolt have used the term to signal its roots in the rural white working-class and celebration of what member Max Neely described as "redneck culture".[19]
As political epithet
According to Chapman and Kipfer in their "Dictionary of American Slang", By 1975 the term had expanded in meaning beyond the poor Southerner to refer to "a bigoted and conventional person, a loutish ultra-conservative."[20] For example, in 1960 John Barlow Martin expressed Senator John F. Kennedy should not enter the Indiana Democratic presidential primary because the state was "redneck conservative country." Indiana, he told Kennedy, was a state "suspicious of foreign entanglements, conservative in fiscal policy, and with a strong overlay of Southern segregationist sentiment."[21] Writer William Safire observes it is often used to attack white Southern conservatives, and more broadly to degrade working class and rural whites that are perceived by urban progressives to be insufficiently liberal.[22] At the same time, some white Southerners have reclaimed the word, using it with pride and defiance as a self-identifier.[23]
The racist bigot aspect of the term is mostly from outsiders. No one I know today who considers himself to be a redneck is a bigot or racist.
This video pretty much sums it all up for its use among rednecks.
JimBowie1958
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Yeah, I have known some of those in the past, but none at present.
And they were all Democrats.
Blackface is only offensive when one take offense. If I had a black face and to tell me that someone painting his face black in comedy is offensive you are telling me that I should also be ashamed of my blackface. What message are we sending our kids.? To be ashamed of their black faces? I am not offended when someone dresses up as an Indian at Halloween. I was asked to play Pocahontas in school. It is part of history and we should not forget history no matter how ugly it is. Those who are offended are ashamed of their black faces. If blackface is racist and offensive then Trump calling someone Pocahontas is racist and offensive. But I am not offended because I refuse to take offense. But to some, it may be offensive.
“The name becomes a derogatory racial reference when used as an insult,” “American Indian names, whether they be historical or contemporary, are not meant to be used as insults. To do so is to reduce them to racial slurs.”
Native American Groups Slap Down Trump’s ‘Pocahontas’ Comment
“The name becomes a derogatory racial reference when used as an insult,” “American Indian names, whether they be historical or contemporary, are not meant to be used as insults. To do so is to reduce them to racial slurs.”
Native American Groups Slap Down Trump’s ‘Pocahontas’ Comment
RoshawnMarkwees
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In defense of trump, I think he misheard the joke which was Warren is Fauxcohontas.
She did not lie, she was repeating what her family had told her and this happens to all of us. I got a surprise other than what I had believed from my family for years when I had my DNA done. She has every right to claim her 1% native American. He did not have to be insulting to Native Americans by using Pocahontas name.
MAGAman
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Democrats have a different standard for Democrats.
Democrats had no problem putting Bill Clinton and his enabler in the WH in 2016.
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Northam will not resign because the Dems will protect him. They do not wish to catalyze the chain reaction of Fairfax and then Herring being put into the position of also resigning (and enabling a Republican to become governor). The accusations against Fairfax are far more serious; two credible women with detailed accounts and corroboration from friends whom they had told about the rapes in the past are more compelling than offensive yearbook pictures. But the optics of a black man being forced out of office are more than the Dem-Prog-SocialistStatists can stand, hence they will do a collective Emily Litella impersonation.
RoshawnMarkwees
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So if someone simply told me I had black in my heritage I could qualify for all kinds of benefits and be pushed ahead of others in applications and I could say nigga with impunity?
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RoshawnMarkwees
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I was thinking I could be Rachel Dolezol’s brother.
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No, you would quality by just being a white ******* ass hole. More of you are receiving welfare benefits then illegals or Afro Americans. To receive Native American benefits you have to prove you are Native. You are probably a descendant of incest.
RoshawnMarkwees
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White ******* assholes and white people in general have no gov-afforded special privileges as non-whites do. Just ask that faux-non-white Warren. Rich people have an advantage but that transcends race.
I am a Native American as I was born and live in the USA. You must mean Indians or indigenous peoples.
MAGAman
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Warren is whiter than Ivory Soap. You don't think she ever noticed that when she put her makeup on?
How stupid do you think she is?
She's a liar and a racist and she appropriated someone else's benefit.
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