When a Jury says you are guilty, you are a criminal

[Toddsterpatriot]

The uninformed would think so, yes.

But enough about you.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

But enough about you.

You are so weak.

 

[martybegan]

Donald Trump was found guilty by a jury on 34 counts.

Trump is found guilty on 34 felony counts. Read the counts here

Jurors in the New York criminal trial against former President Donald Trump have convicted him of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

Donald Trump is a criminal. Just like the illegals you guys want deported. You cannot claim you want to stop crime while simultaneously supporting and defending a convicted felon.

The Juries were right in all these cases as well?

Scottsboro Boys - Wikipedia

Leo Frank - Wikipedia

George Stinney - Wikipedia

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

fallacy of false equivalency

the level of proof in a liability (civil) case is lower than in a criminal case.

Here's the difference:​

Criminal Case​

• Standard of Proof: Beyond a reasonable doubt
• Explanation: The prosecution must prove the defendant's guilt to such a high degree that there is no reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury.
• Why so high?: Because the consequences can include loss of liberty (e.g., prison), the law requires a very high level of certainty
  

Civil (Liability) Case​

• Standard of Proof: Preponderance of the evidence
• Explanation: The plaintiff must show that it is more likely than not (i.e., over 50% likely) that the defendant is liable.
• Why lower?: Civil cases usually involve money or rights, not criminal punishment, so the burden is lighter
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There’s also a middle standard called “clear and convincing evidence”, used in some civil matters like fraud or child custody, but it’s still lower than the criminal standard

 

[jc456]

Donald Trump was found guilty by a jury on 34 counts.

Trump is found guilty on 34 felony counts. Read the counts here

Jurors in the New York criminal trial against former President Donald Trump have convicted him of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

Donald Trump is a criminal. Just like the illegals you guys want deported. You cannot claim you want to stop crime while simultaneously supporting and defending a convicted felon.

nope, still waiting for the felony charge, can you post it?

 

[jc456]

fallacy of false equivalency

the level of proof in a liability (civil) case is lower than in a criminal case.

Here's the difference:​

Criminal Case​

• Standard of Proof: Beyond a reasonable doubt
• Explanation: The prosecution must prove the defendant's guilt to such a high degree that there is no reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury.
• Why so high?: Because the consequences can include loss of liberty (e.g., prison), the law requires a very high level of certainty

Civil (Liability) Case​

• Standard of Proof: Preponderance of the evidence
• Explanation: The plaintiff must show that it is more likely than not (i.e., over 50% likely) that the defendant is liable.
• Why lower?: Civil cases usually involve money or rights, not criminal punishment, so the burden is lighter
  1
  .

There’s also a middle standard called “clear and convincing evidence”, used in some civil matters like fraud or child custody, but it’s still lower than the criminal standard

 

[martybegan]

fallacy of false equivalency

the level of proof in a liability (civil) case is lower than in a criminal case.

Here's the difference:​

Criminal Case​

• Standard of Proof: Beyond a reasonable doubt
• Explanation: The prosecution must prove the defendant's guilt to such a high degree that there is no reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury.
• Why so high?: Because the consequences can include loss of liberty (e.g., prison), the law requires a very high level of certainty

Civil (Liability) Case​

• Standard of Proof: Preponderance of the evidence
• Explanation: The plaintiff must show that it is more likely than not (i.e., over 50% likely) that the defendant is liable.
• Why lower?: Civil cases usually involve money or rights, not criminal punishment, so the burden is lighter
  1
  .

There’s also a middle standard called “clear and convincing evidence”, used in some civil matters like fraud or child custody, but it’s still lower than the criminal standard

Who are you responding to, dickhead?

The Quote function is there for a reason, you ******* retard.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Who are you responding to, dickhead?

The Quote function is there for a reason, you ******* retard.

Understand that you are nothing here other than just another poster full of hot air.

 

[jc456]

Understand that you are nothing here other than just another poster full of hot air.

hilarious, how did that answer his question? now you again prove the troll you are.

 

[martybegan]

Understand that you are nothing here other than just another poster full of hot air.

The lack of self awareness on your own part is staggering, and pathetic.

 

[Delldude]

Donald Trump was found guilty by a jury on 34 counts.

Trump is found guilty on 34 felony counts. Read the counts here

Jurors in the New York criminal trial against former President Donald Trump have convicted him of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

Donald Trump is a criminal. Just like the illegals you guys want deported. You cannot claim you want to stop crime while simultaneously supporting and defending a convicted felon.

End stage TDS.

Text book.

 

[justoffal]

Many juries have made bad decisions wrongly convicting the innocent.

Dictating that Trumo is guilty does not make Trump guilty.

Sacco and Vanzetti

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The lack of self awareness on your own part is staggering, and pathetic.

You are proof in the pudding.

 

[martybegan]

You are proof in the pudding.

The only pudding is between your ears.

 

[WEATHER53]

When you serve time behind bars then you are a criminal or convict. Other wise you are “guilty pending…”

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The statement:

"When you serve time behind bars then you are a criminal or convict. Otherwise you are 'guilty pending…'"

is partially true but oversimplified and somewhat misleading. Here's a clearer breakdown:

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• "When you serve time behind bars then you are a criminal or convict":
  This is generally accurate. If someone is convicted of a crime and sentenced to incarceration, they are legally considered a convict or criminal.

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• "Otherwise you are 'guilty pending…'":
  This is not legally correct. In the justice system:
  • A person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
  • If someone is charged but not convicted, they are not legally guilty, regardless of public opinion or pretrial detention.
  • Being held in jail before trial does not mean someone is guilty — it may be due to bail denial, flight risk, or other legal reasons.

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Legal Terms:​

• Defendant: A person formally accused of a crime.
• Convict: A person found guilty by a court.
• Inmate: Someone currently incarcerated, whether pretrial or post-conviction.
• Presumption of Innocence: A foundational principle in criminal law.

 

[whitehall]

That is one of the more stupid deflections this year.

There is no ground for any such charges, and Trump's felony convictions are a fact.

Y'all didn't see the part where prosecutors said that Biden was a mentally impaired pathetic old man and it would be useless to prosecute him for the same thing (classified documents) they accused Trump of doing. The autopen get out of jail free for Fauci and Hunter is under investigation.

 

[WEATHER53]

The statement:


is partially true but oversimplified and somewhat misleading. Here's a clearer breakdown:

---

​

• "When you serve time behind bars then you are a criminal or convict":
  This is generally accurate. If someone is convicted of a crime and sentenced to incarceration, they are legally considered a convict or criminal.

---

​

• "Otherwise you are 'guilty pending…'":
  This is not legally correct. In the justice system:
  • A person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
  • If someone is charged but not convicted, they are not legally guilty, regardless of public opinion or pretrial detention.
  • Being held in jail before trial does not mean someone is guilty — it may be due to bail denial, flight risk, or other legal reasons.

---

Legal Terms:​

• Defendant: A person formally accused of a crime.
• Convict: A person found guilty by a court.
• Inmate: Someone currently incarcerated, whether pretrial or post-conviction.
• Presumption of Innocence: A foundational principle in criminal law.

Side step but no disprove

 

[theHawk]

Donald Trump was found guilty by a jury on 34 counts.

Trump is found guilty on 34 felony counts. Read the counts here

Jurors in the New York criminal trial against former President Donald Trump have convicted him of 34 felony counts of falsified business records.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

Donald Trump is a criminal. Just like the illegals you guys want deported. You cannot claim you want to stop crime while simultaneously supporting and defending a convicted felon.

Uh huh sure. What about all the black men falsely convicted in courts? Are they criminals too?

What makes one a criminal is committing an actual crime. Being convicted in a court is irrelevant to that fact. We’d like to believe that all criminals are caught and convicted, and that no innocent people are convicted in courts, but we know that isn’t the case.

 

[theHawk]

Reality has no real impact on tRumplings.

What reality?

We saw the “evidence”. We heard the corrupt judges instructions to the jury.

It was admitted in court the actual actions of the accountant paying Trump’s lawyer was NOT a crime. The judge instructed the jury to just find him guilty if they think he was covering up any crime they could imagine. The court never even attempted to prove what this other crime was. It was a total joke.