What's your position on a universal minimum income?

[danielpalos]

Theoretically? Perhaps it would be better to have a MAXIMUM wage, instead, based on productivity. Raising the minimum wage just raises the overall cost of living and doesn't help anyone in the long run. Like the dog chasing it's tail, it's delusional.

No, it doesn't. Social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour, by comparison. It is the reason for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage. It is about privatizing costs, not socializing costs.

 

[CultureCitizen]

I don't have faith in capitalism. I view capitalism and market as a game. A game we use to be productive.
And it must be viewed as a game, a means , not a goal.
When wars are started, and people die as a concequence of a game, then it is time to review the rules of the game.

You should have faith in capitalism, it's why you're not starving to death. It's not a game, it's a system, and a beautiful one. Through capitalism, ordinary people are able to prosper and grow wealth so that Socialists become jealous of them and want to steal it.

What do you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking? Or, what did you do if you're retired?

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

 

[CultureCitizen]

And how exactly do you differentiate politicians acting on their own from politicians influenced by capitalists?

Couldn't get past your first sentence.

Federal politicians should neither act on their own nor be influenced by cash. They should stick to the powers granted to them in the Constitution.

But that is just a theory which doesn't match reality. In other words, it's a useless theory.

 

[CultureCitizen]

I have been getting an education every single day of my life: I am a computer scientist, and I am actually very concerned about the advances in AI, many jobs are going to be destroyed in the next 20 years, it is going to be very hard for people to retool for the kind jobs that will be needed .

Jobs have always been destroyed. Not too many ice or milk men these days.

Agreed, but then never have so many jobs been destroyed at the rate they are being destroyed now. The level of employment in the US peaked in the 2000s and hasn't ever recovered. It is only a 5% decrease ... but I doubt it will ever reach 65% again.
US Employment Population Ratio

Have you read Stiglitz's article on the great depression?
Joseph Stiglitz: “A Banking System is Supposed to Serve Society, Not the Other Way Around”

Lots of business have died, ain't started up or left. Too much government. Fix that and we'll have better numbers to work with.

Well , I assume you are a republican ... you ( republicans now have the upper hand ). Time to see if republican policies work ... or not.

Will we?

Is the left going to stop opposing every conservative policy promoted? Will they stop undermining programs and policy as implemented at the grass roots level?

No one can ever say, "we'll see if their policies work unless those policies are implemented fully without interference.

Think that is going to happen? I sure don't.

With a majority in Congress, the oposition can only come from the POTUS, whose policies are all over the board.

 

[Boss]

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

Okay, so your livelihood has come from a capitalist who had an original idea and vision, invested and risked capital to make that vision come true and provide you with an opportunity to earn wealth. Without capitalism, that opportunity wouldn't exist.

 

[Iceweasel]

With a majority in Congress, the oposition can only come from the POTUS, whose policies are all over the board.

How so? And no party is unified, lots of opposing voices within. Perhaps more on the right than the left.

 

[danielpalos]

I don't have faith in capitalism. I view capitalism and market as a game. A game we use to be productive.
And it must be viewed as a game, a means , not a goal.
When wars are started, and people die as a concequence of a game, then it is time to review the rules of the game.

You should have faith in capitalism, it's why you're not starving to death. It's not a game, it's a system, and a beautiful one. Through capitalism, ordinary people are able to prosper and grow wealth so that Socialists become jealous of them and want to steal it.

What do you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking? Or, what did you do if you're retired?

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

I believe administrators may find useful; sim city simulations software; for more cost effective planning.

 

[CultureCitizen]

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

Okay, so your livelihood has come from a capitalist who had an original idea and vision, invested and risked capital to make that vision come true and provide you with an opportunity to earn wealth. Without capitalism, that opportunity wouldn't exist.

There's no denyial of that. But that doesn't either change my viewpoint of capitalism-as-a-game.

 

[Darkwind]

Jobs have always been destroyed. Not too many ice or milk men these days.

Agreed, but then never have so many jobs been destroyed at the rate they are being destroyed now. The level of employment in the US peaked in the 2000s and hasn't ever recovered. It is only a 5% decrease ... but I doubt it will ever reach 65% again.
US Employment Population Ratio

Have you read Stiglitz's article on the great depression?
Joseph Stiglitz: “A Banking System is Supposed to Serve Society, Not the Other Way Around”

Lots of business have died, ain't started up or left. Too much government. Fix that and we'll have better numbers to work with.

Well , I assume you are a republican ... you ( republicans now have the upper hand ). Time to see if republican policies work ... or not.

Will we?

Is the left going to stop opposing every conservative policy promoted? Will they stop undermining programs and policy as implemented at the grass roots level?

No one can ever say, "we'll see if their policies work unless those policies are implemented fully without interference.

Think that is going to happen? I sure don't.

With a majority in Congress, the oposition can only come from the POTUS, whose policies are all over the board.

In fact, that is not true.

Congress did not oppose the legal power of the President to temporarily restrict refugees from entering this country without being better vetted.

When the Congress and the President finally get around to doing some real work they were hired to do, will the left file court cases to restrict the cutting of funds to sanctuary cities, funding to controversial businesses like planned parenthood, the ending of monies spent to other nations so that they continue to be our friends. Will they fillibuster such items as a balanced budget that makes cuts to executive departments, entitlement programs, national democratic spending priorities?

There are literally a thousand ways in which the regressives in the democratic party can hinder or slow a GOP agenda. They will be fighting a holding action against the GOP in the hopes that they'll gain some power (any power, anywhere) to help them claw their way back onto the national stage.

It cannot be said that the GOP, or even the Democrats, have to own up to "governing" when they are fully in opposition mode.

It is what the two-party system works at achieving.

 

[danielpalos]

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

Okay, so your livelihood has come from a capitalist who had an original idea and vision, invested and risked capital to make that vision come true and provide you with an opportunity to earn wealth. Without capitalism, that opportunity wouldn't exist.

There's no denyial of that. But that doesn't either change my viewpoint of capitalism-as-a-game.

"game theory" covers it; please, get with the program.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

Okay, so your livelihood has come from a capitalist who had an original idea and vision, invested and risked capital to make that vision come true and provide you with an opportunity to earn wealth. Without capitalism, that opportunity wouldn't exist.

There's no denyial of that. But that doesn't either change my viewpoint of capitalism-as-a-game.

totally stupid and liberal as always, of course. Capitalism is a game and socialism is a giraffe????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

the POTUS, whose policies are all over the board.

1) privatize health care is Republican not all over lot
2) Gorsuch too
3) regulations too
4) wall to keep out liberal illegals too
5) tax cuts too

How odd, you were wrong again!!

 

[danielpalos]

the POTUS, whose policies are all over the board.

1) privatize health care is Republican not all over lot
2) Gorsuch too
3) regulations too
4) wall to keep out liberal illegals too
5) tax cuts too

How odd, you were wrong again!!

Is there no True Exigency that may require, real Times of War tax rates in our Republic?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Many economists ( Steeve Keen, Milton Friedman ) as well as some institutions (singularity university) and busienssmen (Elon Musk) advocate for a universal minimum income.

What's your position regarding this policy?
References:
Universal minimum income to be above poverty line ( about $11 per day)
Minimum wage ( about $57 per day)
Median individual income ( about $88 per day)

Addendum :the singularity university is dedicated to solving big problems using AI. Elon musk is concerned about the role of man in an increasingly aoutomated world.

Basic income - Wikipedia

conservatives and libertarians like Friedman are all for it as long as it costs less, cripples less, and harms the economy less than the panoply of welfare programs in place now. Do you understand?

 

[Slyhunter]

Agreed, but then never have so many jobs been destroyed at the rate they are being destroyed now. The level of employment in the US peaked in the 2000s and hasn't ever recovered. It is only a 5% decrease ... but I doubt it will ever reach 65% again.
US Employment Population Ratio

Have you read Stiglitz's article on the great depression?
Joseph Stiglitz: “A Banking System is Supposed to Serve Society, Not the Other Way Around”

Lots of business have died, ain't started up or left. Too much government. Fix that and we'll have better numbers to work with.

Well , I assume you are a republican ... you ( republicans now have the upper hand ). Time to see if republican policies work ... or not.

Will we?

Is the left going to stop opposing every conservative policy promoted? Will they stop undermining programs and policy as implemented at the grass roots level?

No one can ever say, "we'll see if their policies work unless those policies are implemented fully without interference.

Think that is going to happen? I sure don't.

With a majority in Congress, the oposition can only come from the POTUS, whose policies are all over the board.

In fact, that is not true.

Congress did not oppose the legal power of the President to temporarily restrict refugees from entering this country without being better vetted.

When the Congress and the President finally get around to doing some real work they were hired to do, will the left file court cases to restrict the cutting of funds to sanctuary cities, funding to controversial businesses like planned parenthood, the ending of monies spent to other nations so that they continue to be our friends. Will they fillibuster such items as a balanced budget that makes cuts to executive departments, entitlement programs, national democratic spending priorities?

There are literally a thousand ways in which the regressives in the democratic party can hinder or slow a GOP agenda. They will be fighting a holding action against the GOP in the hopes that they'll gain some power (any power, anywhere) to help them claw their way back onto the national stage.

It cannot be said that the GOP, or even the Democrats, have to own up to "governing" when they are fully in opposition mode.

It is what the two-party system works at achieving.

And in two years there will be even fewer Democrats to get in the way when we vote them out of office.

 

[CultureCitizen]

the POTUS, whose policies are all over the board.

1) privatize health care is Republican not all over lot
2) Gorsuch too
3) regulations too
4) wall to keep out liberal illegals too
5) tax cuts too

How odd, you were wrong again!!

Renegociating / cancelling trade agreements is what exactly ?
And what about barring newspapers from the white house?
The wall? that's a Trump Idea. Quite useless if you ask me . It could have been usefull 15 years ago.

Add to that the fact that Putin probably helped Donald become US president because he considers him a dimwit he can blackmail.


Coloful candidate ... not "bright" or smart.Ups.

 

[CultureCitizen]

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

Okay, so your livelihood has come from a capitalist who had an original idea and vision, invested and risked capital to make that vision come true and provide you with an opportunity to earn wealth. Without capitalism, that opportunity wouldn't exist.

There's no denyial of that. But that doesn't either change my viewpoint of capitalism-as-a-game.

totally stupid and liberal as always, of course. Capitalism is a game and socialism is a giraffe????

Ed,
Being called stupid by someone who is considered to have the writting skills of a spambot is laughable.

 

[CultureCitizen]

Boss,
I am a computer scientist, but most of my life I have been installing, configuring and adapting enterprise resource planning software for large companies, my hobby is AI. Each day I am more concerned about what it can do.

Okay, so your livelihood has come from a capitalist who had an original idea and vision, invested and risked capital to make that vision come true and provide you with an opportunity to earn wealth. Without capitalism, that opportunity wouldn't exist.

As a sidenote: I worked as a freelance programmer during 3 years. In that specific case, the "capitalist who had an original idea and vision, invested and risked capital to make that vision come true and provide you with an opportunity to earn wealth" was me.

But, again, granted, without capitalism that wouldn't be possible. I just like avoiding the extreme cases of capitalism, and a minimum income is one of the possibilities ( again , following a rationale that it can't exceed 10%- 12% of gdp).

Welfare programs have been part of the US history for a very long time, and people just tend to forget about that so quickly.

 

[CultureCitizen]

Congress did not oppose the legal power of the President to temporarily restrict refugees from entering this country without being better vetted.

That's probably because DT can't draft an EO in such a way that it looks politically correct.

FACT CHECK: Did President Obama Ban Muslims from Entering the United States in 2011?

 

[Slyhunter]

Congress did not oppose the legal power of the President to temporarily restrict refugees from entering this country without being better vetted.

That's probably because DT can't draft an EO in such a way that it looks politically correct.

FACT CHECK: Did President Obama Ban Muslims from Entering the United States in 2011?

He'll figure it out. He's not a politician. He has good people to help him learn.