What's a conservative way to address healthcare and insurance costs?

[1srelluc]

IMHO.....It's the same as the fix for student loans - get the .gov out of the health care business.

Government laws and policies got us here so I don't think more government policies, no matter how well intentioned, is gonna fix it.

That and Health Care Insurance should be able to be bought like car insurance, across state lines.

Let folks purchase whatever insurance product they want instead of being forced into a product designed to subsidize others.

 

[sparky]

wutz your view on single payer relluc?......~S~

 

[1srelluc]

wutz your view on single payer relluc?......~S~

Non starter.

 

[JoeB131]

IMHO.....It's the same as the fix for student loans - get the .gov out of the health care business.

Government laws and policies got us here so I don't think more government policies, no matter how well intentioned, is gonna fix it.

That and Health Care Insurance should be able to be bought like car insurance, across state lines.

Let folks purchase whatever insurance product they want instead of being forced into a product designed to subsidize others.

Except people wouldn't be able to afford insurance if they actually needed it, that's the thing.

Most of our health care spending is on people over 65. Private Insurance wouldn't insure these people without a government subsidy and mandate.

 

[1srelluc]

Except people wouldn't be able to afford insurance if they actually needed it, that's the thing.

Most of our health care spending is on people over 65. Private Insurance wouldn't insure these people without a government subsidy and mandate.

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I won't deny that "end of life" procedure costs are a big problem.....I mean does a 90 year-old really need a internal defibrillator?

Cost of defibrillator insertion or replacement by state | Sidecar Health

DEFIBRILLATOR INSERTION OR REPLACEMENT procedure cash costs range between $39,328 and $64,729 depending on the type of care facility and state

cost.sidecarhealth.com

I can hear you now going on about "death panels".

 

[pknopp]

IMHO.....It's the same as the fix for student loans - get the .gov out of the health care business.

Government laws and policies got us here so I don't think more government policies, no matter how well intentioned, is gonna fix it.

That and Health Care Insurance should be able to be bought like car insurance, across state lines.

Let folks purchase whatever insurance product they want instead of being forced into a product designed to subsidize others.

Millions could never afford it.

 

[Blaster]

Unhealthy lifestyles have put a strain on our healthcare system.

 

[1srelluc]

Millions could never afford it.

Then the costs would go down.

40% of hospital costs are administrative......Guess who that gets passed on to?

40% of hospital costs are administrative expenses, which have significantly increased in recent years. This figure reflects the growing burden of administrative tasks, such as prior authorization appeals and compliance, on healthcare systems. Administrative costs now account for a substantial portion of total expenses, impacting both patient care and hospital financial stability.

American Hospital Association

 

[pknopp]

Then the costs would go down.

40% of hospital costs are administrative......Guess who that gets passed on to?

40% of hospital costs are administrative expenses, which have significantly increased in recent years. This figure reflects the growing burden of administrative tasks, such as prior authorization appeals and compliance, on healthcare systems. Administrative costs now account for a substantial portion of total expenses, impacting both patient care and hospital financial stability.
American Hospital Association

Billions would get passed on to those who have health care.

LOL, costs will go down with billions in unpaid bills?

 

[1srelluc]

Billions would get passed on to those who have health care.

Hell, that's what is happening now.

Blah, I suspect it's all gonna have to crash and burn first as nobody is willing to give-up anything.

 

[pknopp]

Hell, that's what is happening now.

Blah, I suspect it's all gonna have to crash and burn first as nobody is willing to give-up anything.

You are suggesting people give up any sort of health care without considering any of the ramifications of that.

 

[1srelluc]

You are suggesting people give up any sort of health care without considering any of the ramifications of that.

End of life care could certainly be scaled back....A lot.

 

[pknopp]

End of life care could certainly be scaled back....A lot.

Some. That isn't going to solve the issue.

In the big picture I agree that everyone has to give up something for everyone to get something.

 

[TNHarley]

If govt never got involved in healthcare, it would still be cheap like it was before they took it over.
Same with education.

 

[pknopp]

If govt never got involved in healthcare, it would still be cheap like it was before they took it over.
Same with education.

Doctors aren't going to accept chickens in trade for services.

 

[1srelluc]

Doctors aren't going to accept chickens in trade for services.

LOL....I had a dentist that traded me a crown for a Mauser back in the day.

 

[TNHarley]

Doctors aren't going to accept chickens in trade for services.

I cant find a graph that goes back to the thirties when govt first got involved in healthcare.
It wasnt much what they did but it was the ripple effect to what we have now.
Notice govt run healthcare started in the 60s and how costs shot up.

 

[pknopp]

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I cant find a graph that goes back to the thirties when govt first got involved in healthcare.
It wasnt much what they did but it was the ripple effect to what we have now.
Notice govt run healthcare started in the 60s and how costs shot up.

We also cure cancer today. We also place "shareholder value" as the most important aspect of health care today.

No one says that must end.

 

[TNHarley]

We also cure cancer today.

On what planet?

We also place "shareholder value" as the most important aspect of health care today.

And it used to not be like that. Govt got involved, and healthcare became a huge part of our economy.

 

[TNHarley]

Supply and demand isnt real!