What Would Be So Awful About Overturning Roe v. Wade & Saving Unborn Children's Lives?

[RealDave]

And what happens to these unwaned children? Republicans don't want to take care of the poor now? They keep wanting to cut food stamps, Medicaid, and welfare now.

We know the rich & upper middle class will still get abortions. These unwanted babies will be born the poorer people. Are you wuiklling to comnmiut to increase funding that will help take care of these kids?

If men could get pregnant, Walmart would offer abortions at $59.95.

We are noit talking bsbies, we are talking fetuses. Learn the difference.

1. It's not our responsibility to take care of children once they are born it is the parents .

2. Conservatives give way more to charity then liberals...fact and don't confuse charity with taxes , only a child poster does that

3. Once again you prove yourself anti biology a fetus is a baby, it will never be born a lollipop or a dandilion ..

4. Bullshit on that men could get pregnant thing.. news flash some men have faith in God , read the scripture's , have morals and common decency.

.

1) You are forcing poor women to have babies & now you admit you want to condemn them to a childhood of poor living conditions & hunger. Higher costs thsat you will constantly whine about.

2) Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle is not enough.

3)
a·by
ˈbābē/
noun
noun: baby; plural noun: babies

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"
   synonyms: infant, newborn, child, tot, little one; More

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

4) Men make the abortion laws. You know I am right. Since men contribute to these pregnancies, how about we implant a balloon in their guy & fill it with water in the same way a fetus grows.

Lying inane rubbish. Where are the Evul White Hordes forcing poor women to get knocked up? Why doesn''t the network news have any footage of these mobs racing around impregnating poor women?

Republicans want fewer abortions as they try to legislate making contraception more difficult to get. This is how FUCKING stupid you people are.

You believe that life begins at conception. God reaches down & places a soul as soon as that sperm reaches its goal.

These eggs travel down the tubes & something like 40% or more fail to attach to the wmob wall and are aborted. So God has to take back that soul.

Now, I suspect that God is not some dumbass & would certainly wait to implant that soul. Wouldn't you?

I can understand that if you believe life begins at conception, that you would be against abortion.

But that is only your belief. Some thin it happens when the newborn takes its breath of life. Some say when they are viable outside the womb. Some say when their brain takes over.

So really.

Well, of course it begins at conception. Your lack of knowledge of basic biology is duly noted, and your desperation at avoiding the fact that you are really only interested in making stupid excuses for mindless self-indulgence and lack of self-control necessary for basic human relations. you sociopaths are just pathologically incapable of ever understanding normal behaviors and imperatives, that's all. It's probably related to exposure to particularly sick porn at an early age re your bizarre fantasies about sex and how 'uncontrollable' you believe people are.

Bioloy does not say human life begins at conception.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Did everyone on this thread skip high school biology class?

Youre the one that claims you get pregnant, sexually addicted, or catch a disease everytime you have sex. Were you raised in a very strict religious environment surrounded by ignorance?

Holy crap are you full of shit! I did not say that at all. Try either learning to read or responding to what I said and not what you'd like to believe I said.

I never said "everytime you have sex". You certainly are twisted, aren't you?

Which brings up another perspective on abortion:

Has anyone done a study on the psychological and emotional effects that abortions have on the women?

Beyond the physical, abortion may leave much deeper scars.

Sure. But it's a problematic question, because it's such a politically-charged question in this country. No one who wants to publish in peer-reviewed journals is going to write up a study that says it's harmful to women's psychological health, because they not only won't get published, they're liable to lose their jobs. So everything's suspect based on agenda. There are studies from other countries, but it's reasonable to wonder how much the results, whatever they are, are affected by the society of the country in question.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What exactly would be so awful or terrible about overturning Roe v. Wade, allowing the states to resume control over the issue, and saving thousands or tens of thousands of unborn babies' lives?

Roe v. Wade was based on junk science, junk law, and on the myth of an epidemic of "back alley abortions." Legalized elective abortion is far more of a stain on our nation's history than slavery was. The number of babies killed by abortion dwarfs the number of slaves who were killed by abusive slaveholders.

If Roe v. Wade were overturned, state governments would retake control of the issue. Some states would legalize all abortion except partial-birth abortion (which is illegal under federal law). Other states would place significant restrictions on abortion. And some states would ban most or all abortions. Undoubtedly, thousands or tens of thousands of babies would be saved from abortion.

If women were really determined to kill their babies for their own convenience (i.e., elective abortion), they could always go to a state where elective abortion were legal.

Debunking the myth of ‘back-alley’ abortions

U.S. Abortion Statistics

Chilean Study Proves that Outlawing Abortion Does Not Lead to "Coat-hanger Deaths"

https://www.mccl.org/single-post/2017/01/20/The-three-fundamental-problems-with-Roe-v-Wade

Science Has Advanced Since Roe v. Wade But Abortion Laws Haven’t

It's a scientific fact: Human life begins at conception

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

When Does Life Begin | Just The Facts

And what happens to these unwaned children? Republicans don't want to take care of the poor now? They keep wanting to cut food stamps, Medicaid, and welfare now.

We know the rich & upper middle class will still get abortions. These unwanted babies will be born the poorer people. Are you wuiklling to comnmiut to increase funding that will help take care of these kids?

If men could get pregnant, Walmart would offer abortions at $59.95.

We are noit talking bsbies, we are talking fetuses. Learn the difference.

1. It's not our responsibility to take care of children once they are born it is the parents .

2. Conservatives give way more to charity then liberals...fact and don't confuse charity with taxes , only a child poster does that

3. Once again you prove yourself anti biology a fetus is a baby, it will never be born a lollipop or a dandilion ..

4. Bullshit on that men could get pregnant thing.. news flash some men have faith in God , read the scripture's , have morals and common decency.

.

1) You are forcing poor women to have babies & now you admit you want to condemn them to a childhood of poor living conditions & hunger. Higher costs thsat you will constantly whine about.

2) Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle is not enough.

3)
a·by
ˈbābē/
noun
noun: baby; plural noun: babies

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"
   synonyms: infant, newborn, child, tot, little one; More

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

4) Men make the abortion laws. You know I am right. Since men contribute to these pregnancies, how about we implant a balloon in their guy & fill it with water in the same way a fetus grows.

Honey, unless you have evidence of someone kidnapping women, raping them, and holding them hostage for 9 months, no one's "forcing" them to have babies, so save the melodrama for old movies.

"Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle" is a phrase that says nothing about actual charitable giving in the United States, but speaks volumes about YOUR charitable giving, if that's as much as you know about it.

I'm not sure what you think you're proving with the dictionary definitions, Noah Webster, when the definition for fetus SAYS "baby" right in it.

If "men make abortion laws" is supposed to be some argument about how the pro-life position is an attempt to "oppress women", explain to me how that tallies with the fact that the CURRENT abortion law in the United States is Roe v. Wade.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Picaro is unfamiliar with the idea that people like, even love each other. I think it's part of whatever religion he adheres to.The rest of us understand what happens after midnight between the sheets. We understand, and we don't snoop.

Yes, the only options are "People who have sex and want the results to be disposable" and "People who know nothing about sex." It's not at all possible that the vast majority of people who oppose abortion are, in fact, married AND parents and quite familiar with sex WITHOUT feeling the need to have the "out" of killing unborn babies because THEY are screwing people they don't like enough to have a family with.

 

[sealybobo]

Some people seem to be pretending that putting a woman's choice about her reproduction above the state's right to decide for her is "leftist".
Ridiculous.

Some people avidly avoid admitting throwing her legs open and getting knocked up is the reproductive choice, and refuse to acknowledge that abortion is just murdering the kid after the choice, not 'reproductive choice'.

Some people think it's none of your fucking business. I know a girl right now who almost got pregnant with a guy she met on tinder. Of course she fucked up. Of course she's a little hoe. So, are you suggesting every hoe must raise a child? You want that hoe to raise a child?

Don't give me that shit about putting it up for adoption. These women are going to keep it. She would keep it and make the guy who knocked her up suffer for 18 years. All because they wanted to fuck.

Or she could just go get an abortion and make everyone's life easier. The state, tax payers, the baby daddy and her. The only one who would not benefit is the pre human seed. Not a big deal.

Some people don't give a fuck what you faggots think; you're mentally ill disease spreading pedo-fans, and the pendulum of you scum being indulged in your sicko agendas is swinging back the other way now, so crawl back down into your sewers, daylight is coming and it kills germs like yourself.

Pentulum swings both ways. Just remember no one voted for republicans they voted for what they thought would be a shake up in Washington. Trump sucks and he will only matter another two years.

The people who didn’t vote for Hillary will vote for our next nominee.

Go back to Russia comrad

 

[Cecilie1200]

If God did not want people to have sex, it wouldn't make it feel so good.

Who said God didn't want people to have sex?

If God had wanted to people to have sex indiscriminately every chance they got, He wouldn't have given them brains.

Admittedly, you probably aren't personally familiar with that, though.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Picaro is unfamiliar with the idea that people like, even love each other. I think it's part of whatever religion he adheres to.The rest of us understand what happens after midnight between the sheets. We understand, and we don't snoop.

He got those puritan ethics where sex is a duty not an experience.

I really don't understand where this comes from. Why be anti-sexual? We all love, kiss, stroke, caress, have intercourse. This is basic to our human nature. Picaro's ideology is so sick. It is anti-human at the deepest level. He cannot except the human reality.

He reminds me of someone who does not understand that a female human who has given birth to a baby produces milk through her breasts to give her infant nourishment. to sustain its life, as if this fact is somehow deserving of being hidden from peoples' eyes.

"You think people should reserve sex for those they are willing to have children with. You're anti-sex!"

You remind me of someone who defecates on the street, because you equate "natural biological function" with "therefore, can be done in front of everyone!"

 

[there4eyeM]

People act without in-depth examination of their acts all the time. It is not the highest example of human capacity, but it is common to the point of banality. Wishing to penalize people for acting without what is judged to be sufficient reflection is not practical or human.
The anti-abortion stance is based upon the opinion that life begins at conception or some vague time after. To hold this view it is necessary to tear this one issue away from its context and treat it as almost supernatural.
First, life has been a continuum for an enormous quantity of time.
Second, deciding when and how human life will end is something that happens all the time.
What is 'special' about the woman choosing when it comes to abortion is only personal conviction of opponents. They are not taking fully into account how nature, the universe and human action transpire. It is not an in-depth examination of their position.

 

[dblack]

The people who didn’t vote for Hillary will vote for our next nominee.

That depends on the nominee and the platform. Serve up more of the same and you'll lose again.

 

[talksalot]

What exactly would be so awful or terrible about overturning Roe v. Wade, allowing the states to resume control over the issue, and saving thousands or tens of thousands of unborn babies' lives?

Roe v. Wade was based on junk science, junk law, and on the myth of an epidemic of "back alley abortions." Legalized elective abortion is far more of a stain on our nation's history than slavery was. The number of babies killed by abortion dwarfs the number of slaves who were killed by abusive slaveholders.

If Roe v. Wade were overturned, state governments would retake control of the issue. Some states would legalize all abortion except partial-birth abortion (which is illegal under federal law). Other states would place significant restrictions on abortion. And some states would ban most or all abortions. Undoubtedly, thousands or tens of thousands of babies would be saved from abortion.

If women were really determined to kill their babies for their own convenience (i.e., elective abortion), they could always go to a state where elective abortion were legal.

Debunking the myth of ‘back-alley’ abortions

U.S. Abortion Statistics

Chilean Study Proves that Outlawing Abortion Does Not Lead to "Coat-hanger Deaths"

https://www.mccl.org/single-post/2017/01/20/The-three-fundamental-problems-with-Roe-v-Wade

Science Has Advanced Since Roe v. Wade But Abortion Laws Haven’t

It's a scientific fact: Human life begins at conception

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

When Does Life Begin | Just The Facts

One aspect of the effect of making abortion illegal is that we are now an abortion based economy & society.

Before abortion was made legal, people got married young - often times in their teens. Women would start having babies at an early age. This is how it had been since the beginning of time. This was possible because in most societies any young man that was willing do do a hard day's labor could bring home enough money to house, feed and clothe a family.

Since abortion has been legal, the level of education and job skills needed to support a family has sky rocketed. It now takes 2 college educated people to live a middle-class life - and then to have only 2 to 3 children. Young people know that they can not afford a family until their mid to late twenties.

This means that young women must have abortions or be condemned to a life of poverty. For all we say that we are 'Pro-choice', in fact economic realities dictate that young women DO NOT have any choice - they HAVE to get abortions.

Perhaps if Conservatives would support increasing salaries and wages to the point that young people could afford to have families again, making abortion illegal would be economically feasible.

But until that happens, making abortion illegal will cause a socio-economic disaster on a massive scale.

Of course, Conservative's beloved cognitive dissonance will blind them to this reality.

All rooted in the liberal belief that pregnancy cannot be prevented. Conservatives believe in personal responsibility while liberals look to government to "fix" everything, usually by throwing money at the problem. It's not the government's job to artificially inflate wages....it won't solve anything.

 

[RealDave]

What exactly would be so awful or terrible about overturning Roe v. Wade, allowing the states to resume control over the issue, and saving thousands or tens of thousands of unborn babies' lives?

Roe v. Wade was based on junk science, junk law, and on the myth of an epidemic of "back alley abortions." Legalized elective abortion is far more of a stain on our nation's history than slavery was. The number of babies killed by abortion dwarfs the number of slaves who were killed by abusive slaveholders.

If Roe v. Wade were overturned, state governments would retake control of the issue. Some states would legalize all abortion except partial-birth abortion (which is illegal under federal law). Other states would place significant restrictions on abortion. And some states would ban most or all abortions. Undoubtedly, thousands or tens of thousands of babies would be saved from abortion.

If women were really determined to kill their babies for their own convenience (i.e., elective abortion), they could always go to a state where elective abortion were legal.

Debunking the myth of ‘back-alley’ abortions

U.S. Abortion Statistics

Chilean Study Proves that Outlawing Abortion Does Not Lead to "Coat-hanger Deaths"

https://www.mccl.org/single-post/2017/01/20/The-three-fundamental-problems-with-Roe-v-Wade

Science Has Advanced Since Roe v. Wade But Abortion Laws Haven’t

It's a scientific fact: Human life begins at conception

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

When Does Life Begin | Just The Facts

And what happens to these unwaned children? Republicans don't want to take care of the poor now? They keep wanting to cut food stamps, Medicaid, and welfare now.

We know the rich & upper middle class will still get abortions. These unwanted babies will be born the poorer people. Are you wuiklling to comnmiut to increase funding that will help take care of these kids?

If men could get pregnant, Walmart would offer abortions at $59.95.

We are noit talking bsbies, we are talking fetuses. Learn the difference.

1. It's not our responsibility to take care of children once they are born it is the parents .

2. Conservatives give way more to charity then liberals...fact and don't confuse charity with taxes , only a child poster does that

3. Once again you prove yourself anti biology a fetus is a baby, it will never be born a lollipop or a dandilion ..

4. Bullshit on that men could get pregnant thing.. news flash some men have faith in God , read the scripture's , have morals and common decency.

.

1) You are forcing poor women to have babies & now you admit you want to condemn them to a childhood of poor living conditions & hunger. Higher costs thsat you will constantly whine about.

2) Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle is not enough.

3)
a·by
ˈbābē/
noun
noun: baby; plural noun: babies

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"
   synonyms: infant, newborn, child, tot, little one; More

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

4) Men make the abortion laws. You know I am right. Since men contribute to these pregnancies, how about we implant a balloon in their guy & fill it with water in the same way a fetus grows.

Honey, unless you have evidence of someone kidnapping women, raping them, and holding them hostage for 9 months, no one's "forcing" them to have babies, so save the melodrama for old movies.

"Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle" is a phrase that says nothing about actual charitable giving in the United States, but speaks volumes about YOUR charitable giving, if that's as much as you know about

I'm not sure what you think you're proving with the dictionary definitions, Noah Webster, when the definition for fetus SAYS "baby" right in it.

If "men make abortion laws" is supposed to be some argument about how the pro-life position is an attempt to "oppress women", explain to me how that tallies with the fact that the CURRENT abortion law in the United States is Roe v. Wade.

So, if a women is pregnant & you don't let them have an abortion, what is the other options to having the baby?

 

[OODA_Loop]

We don't need women who would choose abortion over reproductive responsibility as mothers now do we ?

 

[Cecilie1200]

What exactly would be so awful or terrible about overturning Roe v. Wade, allowing the states to resume control over the issue, and saving thousands or tens of thousands of unborn babies' lives?

Roe v. Wade was based on junk science, junk law, and on the myth of an epidemic of "back alley abortions." Legalized elective abortion is far more of a stain on our nation's history than slavery was. The number of babies killed by abortion dwarfs the number of slaves who were killed by abusive slaveholders.

If Roe v. Wade were overturned, state governments would retake control of the issue. Some states would legalize all abortion except partial-birth abortion (which is illegal under federal law). Other states would place significant restrictions on abortion. And some states would ban most or all abortions. Undoubtedly, thousands or tens of thousands of babies would be saved from abortion.

If women were really determined to kill their babies for their own convenience (i.e., elective abortion), they could always go to a state where elective abortion were legal.

Debunking the myth of ‘back-alley’ abortions

U.S. Abortion Statistics

Chilean Study Proves that Outlawing Abortion Does Not Lead to "Coat-hanger Deaths"

https://www.mccl.org/single-post/2017/01/20/The-three-fundamental-problems-with-Roe-v-Wade

Science Has Advanced Since Roe v. Wade But Abortion Laws Haven’t

It's a scientific fact: Human life begins at conception

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

When Does Life Begin | Just The Facts

And what happens to these unwaned children? Republicans don't want to take care of the poor now? They keep wanting to cut food stamps, Medicaid, and welfare now.

We know the rich & upper middle class will still get abortions. These unwanted babies will be born the poorer people. Are you wuiklling to comnmiut to increase funding that will help take care of these kids?

If men could get pregnant, Walmart would offer abortions at $59.95.

We are noit talking bsbies, we are talking fetuses. Learn the difference.

1. It's not our responsibility to take care of children once they are born it is the parents .

2. Conservatives give way more to charity then liberals...fact and don't confuse charity with taxes , only a child poster does that

3. Once again you prove yourself anti biology a fetus is a baby, it will never be born a lollipop or a dandilion ..

4. Bullshit on that men could get pregnant thing.. news flash some men have faith in God , read the scripture's , have morals and common decency.

.

1) You are forcing poor women to have babies & now you admit you want to condemn them to a childhood of poor living conditions & hunger. Higher costs thsat you will constantly whine about.

2) Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle is not enough.

3)
a·by
ˈbābē/
noun
noun: baby; plural noun: babies

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"
   synonyms: infant, newborn, child, tot, little one; More

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

4) Men make the abortion laws. You know I am right. Since men contribute to these pregnancies, how about we implant a balloon in their guy & fill it with water in the same way a fetus grows.

Honey, unless you have evidence of someone kidnapping women, raping them, and holding them hostage for 9 months, no one's "forcing" them to have babies, so save the melodrama for old movies.

"Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle" is a phrase that says nothing about actual charitable giving in the United States, but speaks volumes about YOUR charitable giving, if that's as much as you know about

I'm not sure what you think you're proving with the dictionary definitions, Noah Webster, when the definition for fetus SAYS "baby" right in it.

If "men make abortion laws" is supposed to be some argument about how the pro-life position is an attempt to "oppress women", explain to me how that tallies with the fact that the CURRENT abortion law in the United States is Roe v. Wade.

So, if a women is pregnant & you don't let them have an abortion, what is the other options to having the baby?

I wasn't aware that I NEEDED another option to having a baby once someone has started one. There are all manner of alternatives to starting one.

The time to decide whether or not you wish to be pregnant is BEFORE you get pregnant, much the same way that the time to decide whether to jump off a building is while you're still on the roof, not when you're halfway down. Bit too late then.

 

[JWBooth]

[QUOTE="RealDave, post: 20459305, member: 59529
Bioloy does not say human life begins at conception.[/QUOTE]

Wayyy back in ‘82 or ‘83 I had a bioloy (biology) professor in a lecture state that life does not begin with conception. He ridiculed the notion. He said that life has been an uninterrupted process from the beginning. He left open what the beginning was, biblical or magical mixing of stuff in an ocean a really long time ago. He said that both notions were unprovable and we were free to accept which ever suited us.

He allowed that abortion was a moral issue and had nothing to do with science

 

[RealDave]

And what happens to these unwaned children? Republicans don't want to take care of the poor now? They keep wanting to cut food stamps, Medicaid, and welfare now.

We know the rich & upper middle class will still get abortions. These unwanted babies will be born the poorer people. Are you wuiklling to comnmiut to increase funding that will help take care of these kids?

If men could get pregnant, Walmart would offer abortions at $59.95.

We are noit talking bsbies, we are talking fetuses. Learn the difference.

1. It's not our responsibility to take care of children once they are born it is the parents .

2. Conservatives give way more to charity then liberals...fact and don't confuse charity with taxes , only a child poster does that

3. Once again you prove yourself anti biology a fetus is a baby, it will never be born a lollipop or a dandilion ..

4. Bullshit on that men could get pregnant thing.. news flash some men have faith in God , read the scripture's , have morals and common decency.

.

1) You are forcing poor women to have babies & now you admit you want to condemn them to a childhood of poor living conditions & hunger. Higher costs thsat you will constantly whine about.

2) Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle is not enough.

3)
a·by
ˈbābē/
noun
noun: baby; plural noun: babies

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"
   synonyms: infant, newborn, child, tot, little one; More

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

4) Men make the abortion laws. You know I am right. Since men contribute to these pregnancies, how about we implant a balloon in their guy & fill it with water in the same way a fetus grows.

Honey, unless you have evidence of someone kidnapping women, raping them, and holding them hostage for 9 months, no one's "forcing" them to have babies, so save the melodrama for old movies.

"Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle" is a phrase that says nothing about actual charitable giving in the United States, but speaks volumes about YOUR charitable giving, if that's as much as you know about

I'm not sure what you think you're proving with the dictionary definitions, Noah Webster, when the definition for fetus SAYS "baby" right in it.

If "men make abortion laws" is supposed to be some argument about how the pro-life position is an attempt to "oppress women", explain to me how that tallies with the fact that the CURRENT abortion law in the United States is Roe v. Wade.

So, if a women is pregnant & you don't let them have an abortion, what is the other options to having the baby?

I wasn't aware that I NEEDED another option to having a baby once someone has started one. There are all manner of alternatives to starting one.

The time to decide whether or not you wish to be pregnant is BEFORE you get pregnant, much the same way that the time to decide whether to jump off a building is while you're still on the roof, not when you're halfway down. Bit too late then.

So, no sex unless you want a baby. Great plan.

 

[RealDave]

We don't need women who would choose abortion over reproductive responsibility as mothers now do we ?

Reproductive responsibility: What the fuck is that? Just because you think life begins at conception does NOT give you the right to say shit about what the fuck a woman does.

 

[Cecilie1200]

[QUOTE="RealDave, post: 20459305, member: 59529
Bioloy does not say human life begins at conception.

Wayyy back in ‘82 or ‘83 I had a bioloy (biology) professor in a lecture state that life does not begin with conception. He ridiculed the notion. He said that life has been an uninterrupted process from the beginning. He left open what the beginning was, biblical or magical mixing of stuff in an ocean a really long time ago. He said that both notions were unprovable and we were free to accept which ever suited us.

He allowed that abortion was a moral issue and had nothing to do with science[/QUOTE]

He's a dumbass who was trying to dodge the question by misinterpreting it.

The question is not when life, the ongoing process on the entire planet, began. The question is when ONE INDIVIDUAL LIFE begins.

If you can point to any time OTHER than conception at which you can say, "There, that moment, a unique and separate individual began to exist", and explain why, please do so.

 

[Cecilie1200]

1. It's not our responsibility to take care of children once they are born it is the parents .

2. Conservatives give way more to charity then liberals...fact and don't confuse charity with taxes , only a child poster does that

3. Once again you prove yourself anti biology a fetus is a baby, it will never be born a lollipop or a dandilion ..

4. Bullshit on that men could get pregnant thing.. news flash some men have faith in God , read the scripture's , have morals and common decency.

.

1) You are forcing poor women to have babies & now you admit you want to condemn them to a childhood of poor living conditions & hunger. Higher costs thsat you will constantly whine about.

2) Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle is not enough.

3)
a·by
ˈbābē/
noun
noun: baby; plural noun: babies

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"
   synonyms: infant, newborn, child, tot, little one; More

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

4) Men make the abortion laws. You know I am right. Since men contribute to these pregnancies, how about we implant a balloon in their guy & fill it with water in the same way a fetus grows.

Honey, unless you have evidence of someone kidnapping women, raping them, and holding them hostage for 9 months, no one's "forcing" them to have babies, so save the melodrama for old movies.

"Tossing a quarter in the Red Kettle" is a phrase that says nothing about actual charitable giving in the United States, but speaks volumes about YOUR charitable giving, if that's as much as you know about

I'm not sure what you think you're proving with the dictionary definitions, Noah Webster, when the definition for fetus SAYS "baby" right in it.

If "men make abortion laws" is supposed to be some argument about how the pro-life position is an attempt to "oppress women", explain to me how that tallies with the fact that the CURRENT abortion law in the United States is Roe v. Wade.

So, if a women is pregnant & you don't let them have an abortion, what is the other options to having the baby?

I wasn't aware that I NEEDED another option to having a baby once someone has started one. There are all manner of alternatives to starting one.

The time to decide whether or not you wish to be pregnant is BEFORE you get pregnant, much the same way that the time to decide whether to jump off a building is while you're still on the roof, not when you're halfway down. Bit too late then.

So, no sex unless you want a baby. Great plan.

Wrong. No sex unless you're PREPARED TO ACCEPT THAT POSSIBILITY.

I've been married for 23 years. In that time, I have gotten pregnant three times. Obviously, my husband and I have had sex a lot more than 3 times in over two decades. We used birth control. In fact, my first and third children were conceived WHILE using birth control (when they say "99% effective", they are not joking). We were not looking to have children those times, hence the birth control; however, we accepted EVERY time that pregnancy was still a possible consequence, hence the married, committed relationship between two mature people with good incomes who had discussed how we wanted to raise children if and when they turned up.

 

[Cecilie1200]

We don't need women who would choose abortion over reproductive responsibility as mothers now do we ?

Reproductive responsibility: What the fuck is that? Just because you think life begins at conception does NOT give you the right to say shit about what the fuck a woman does.

If you have to ask "what the fuck is reproductive responsibility", then you shouldn't be fucking.

 

[OODA_Loop]

We don't need women who would choose abortion over reproductive responsibility as mothers now do we ?

Reproductive responsibility: What the fuck is that? Just because you think life begins at conception does NOT give you the right to say shit about what the fuck a woman does.

Reproductive responsibility is knowing if one is not prepared for mother/fatherhood to take one many available contraceptive precautions which span the cost spectrum some requiring no medical prescription.