Elections are the nation making a choice. A limited franchise does not change that.
I'm not giving them credit for what they didn't do.
I'm giving them credit for what they did do.
THey choose the strongest anti-slavery guy on the ticket, even though it led to a bloody war.
THey reaffirmed that choice when they re-elected him, in the middle of the bloodiest war in American History.
That's was their choice. To fight and to keep fighting.
Yes you're trying to give credit where It's not deserved.
You need to understand one simple reality correll. Whites made slavery legal. That was a mistake, they fucked up, it was stupid, dumb, a flawed decision. So for you to act like it was some ******* great noble deed for whites to correct their own **** up is just as stupid. Nobody owes any debt of gratitude to white people for deciding to do what os right. Why should we be grateful? What the **** s going through your mid? That we backs should be happy because we could still be saves or something? Because that's all you're trying to say here.
The truth s that Lincoln was not elected either time because of his claimed anti slavery stance. The war was fought to preserve the union. The only reason Lincoln was elected a second time was that the north pulled out a couple of victories in the war because the North wanted tp stop fighting. Now you can lie to yourself all you want. You can post extra large pictures all you want, but I know that Lincoln did not fight t end slavery, that he saw blacks as inferior and he was a racist.
1. "Whites" made slavery legal? Someone tell that to the Ottomans. For ONE example.
2. If any voters in 1860 thought there was a bigger issue than slavery, they were fools.
So many times you chumps tell me how you were not around at certain times and since you were not around then, you don't know what the real issues were.
Wow. A supposed academic arguing AGAINST the possibility of understanding something though study....
Incredible.
Anyway, it is absurd to think that slavery was not the primary issue of the elections in 1860 or 1865.
Secondly we are talking about America not the Ottoman empire . So you can stop playing that dumb ass game you white people play when you are presented with the fact that your white asses made slavery legal in these united states.
I was responding to what you said. It is fairly common of you lefties to act as though white people invented slavery or it only happened here.
Just giving you a reality check.
Slavery was not invented here. It was pretty much global and normal when white people first started coming to these shores. It was not some new idea that white people came up with here in the Americas.
Whites made slavery legal and for whites to have corrected your **** up is nothing to be happy about nor is it something that should be cherished or bragged about. Whites fucked up and after some 200 years whites finally decided to do something about their **** up.
Now for you to try bragging about how a war was fought over slavery shows just how stupid whites were in this regard. They fucked up, knew they fucked up from the beginning, but yet refused to fix the **** up until half a million of you died.
You talk of those that instituted slavery in the hemisphere, and those that fought to end it in this hemisphere as though they were the same people.
Which has to be dishonest of you, as no one can be that stupid.
Right?
Lincoln, and those that followed him, so often to their deaths, deserve credit for their fight against slavery.
That you can't give it to them, because they are white, is your racism speaking.