What the Palestinians and Arabs Think of Kerry's New Ideas

So if i bomb your house when you're not home, or just injure a few people, that's acceptable? Wow, you're ******* stupid.
For what possible reason would you want to bomb my house?


Uh oh, WE HAVE A WINNER HERE. This shit bag actually does not know what was happening PRIOR to 1967 LOLOLOLOLOLO. Read up and learn, idiot boy:

List of attacks against Israeli civilians before 1967 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which Came First- Terrorism or Occupation-Major Arab Terrorist Attacks against Israelis Prior to the 1967 Six-Day War

Background & Overview - Six-Day War | Jewish Virtual Library

"The PLOÂ’s belligerent rhetoric was matched by deeds. Terrorist attacks by the group grew more frequent. In 1965, 35 raids were conducted against Israel. In 1966, the number increased to 41. In just the first four months of 1967, 37 attacks were launched. The targets were always civilians.(3)"

And:

"Another major cause of conflict was SyriaÂ’s resistance to IsraelÂ’s creation of a National Water Carrier to take water from the Jordan River to supply the country. The Syrian army used the Golan Heights, which tower 3,000 feet above the Galilee, to shell Israeli farms and villages. SyriaÂ’s attacks grew more frequent in 1965 and 1966, forcing children living on kibbutzim in the Huleh Valley to sleep in bomb shelters."

Arab Terrorist Attacks against Israelis Prior to the 1967 Six-Day War » Smooth Stone
Now that you listed attacks against Israel since before the '67 Six-Day War, lets now look at attacks BY ISRAEL since before the '67 Six-Day War.


Israeli Terrorist Incidents against Palestinians

– Tira, December 11, 1947 – five Palestinians were killed and six injured;

– a village outside Haifa, December 12, 1947 – 12 Palestinians killed;

– a village outside Tel Aviv, December 14, 1947 – 18 Palestinians killed and 100 injured;

– al-Khias, December 18, 1947 – the paramilitary Haganah killed 10 Palestinians, most inside their homes;

– Haifa, December 30, 1947 – six Palestinians killed and 42 wounded;

– Jerusalem, December 30, 1947 – Irgun terrorists threw a bomb from a speeding car killing 11 Palestinians and two Brits;

– Balad Esh-Sheikh, December 31, 1947 – the Haganah killed 60 Palestinians, most inside their homes;

– Jaffa, January 4, 1948 – the Stern Gang killed up to 30 and wounded 100 in a truck bombing;

– the Semiramis Hotel, Jerusalem, January 4, 1948 – the Haganah bombed the hotel killing 25 civilians;

– Jaffa Gate, Jerusalem, January 7, 1948 – 17 Palestinians killed;

– Tireh, February 10, 1948 – seven Palestinians killed and five injured;

– on a bus from Safad, February 12, 1948 – five Palestinians killed and five injured;

– Sa’sa’, February 14, 1948 – 60 Palestinians killed, mostly in their homes;

– Qisarya, February 15 – 20, 1948 – 25 Palestinians killed;

– Haifa, February 20, 1948 – six Palestinians killed and 36 wounded;

– Haifa, March 3, 1948 – the Stern Gang blew up the Salameh Building killing 11 Palestinians and wounding 27;

– al-Husayniyya, March 12 and 16 – 17 – the Palmach twice raided the village killing 15 and wounding 20 in the first attack; killing 30 in the second one;

– Jews blew up a train near Benjamina on March 31, 1948 killing 25 Palestinians and wounding 61;

– al-Sarafand, April 5, 1948 – 16 Palestinians were killed and 12 wounded, most when a house was mortared;

– Dier Yassin, April 9, 1948 – the Menachem Begin-led Irgun slaughtered well over 120 Palestinian men, women and children in a bloody rampage; The New York Times reported 254 killed on April 13; 53 orphaned children were dumped like trash along the wall of the Old City; homes were dynamited with inhabitants inside; people were shot at close range, including children; the massacre marked the beginning of what followed during Israel’s “War of Independence:” depopulating 531 towns and villages; 11 urban neighborhoods; massacring or displacing 800,000 Palestinians; and committing countless rapes and other atrocities;” remember Dier Yassin; it, too, is immortalized;

– Tel Litvinsky, April 19, 1948 – Jews killed 90 Palestinians;

– Tiberias, April 19, 1948 – Jews blew up a home killing Palestinians inside;

– Ayn al-Zaytun and nearby villages, May 1 – 4, 1948 – 27 Palestinians killed;

– Acre, May 18, 1948 – Israeli troops killed over 100 Palestinians;

– al-Kabri, May 20, 1948 – Israeli forces killed villagers and machine-gunned children who survived;

– al-Tantura, May 22 – 23, 1948 – Israeli troops killed over 200 villagers, mostly unarmed young men shot in cold blood;

– on May 26, 1948, David Ben-Gurion formed the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) from the Haganah;

– Lydda, July 11 – 12, 1948 – the IDF killed several hundred civilians, including 80 machine-gunned inside the Dahmash mosque;

– Elot, late July, 1948 – the IDF arrested 46 young men; on August 3, several were found dead, and 14 of those arrested were shot in cold blood in an olive grove – in full view of the villagers;

– Suqrir, August 29, 1948 – the IDF killed 10 villagers;

– Hula, Lebanon, October 24 – 29, 1948 – the IDF machine-gunned 50 villagers;

– al-Dawayima, October 29, 1948 – the IDF killed up to 200 villagers;

– Majd al-Kurum, October 30, 1948 – the IDF slaughtered 20 or more villagers in cold blood;

– Saliha, October 30, 1948 – IDF forces blew up a house killing 94 Palestinians;

– Sa’sa’, October 30, 1948 – hundreds of Palestinians were slaughtered in cold blood; the entire village was expelled;

– Nahf, October 31, 1948 – a brutal massacre was carried out of unknown numbers;

– Khirbat al-Wa’ra al-Sawda, November 2, 1948 – the IDF killed 14 villagers;

– Beit Jala, January 6, 1952 – seven Palestinians were slaughtered in cold blood;

– Jerusalem, April 22, 1953 – the IDF killed 10 Palestinians;

– Bureji Refugee Camp, August 28, 1953 – the IDF killed 20 Palestinians and wounded 62 others;

– Qibya, Jordan, October 14, 1953 – Ariel Sharon’s infamous Unit 101 killed 70 villagers;

– Nahalin, Jordan, March 28, 1954 – the IDF killed nine Arabs and wounded 19;

– Gaza City, April 5, 1956 – IDF shelling killed 56 and wounded 193;

– Kafr Kassem, October 29, 1956 – the IDF killed about 50 men, women and children;

– the Suez War, October 29 – November 7, 1956 – the IDF executed about 273 Egyptian soldiers and civilians in cold blood;

– Khan Yunis, November 3, 1956 – the IDF killed dozens of civilians in cold blood;

– Rafah Refugee Camp, November 12, 1956 – the IDF slaughtered over 100 Palestinians;

– Nuqeibi, Syria, March 16 – 17, 1962 – IDF artillery and aircraft killed at least 30 unarmed villagers;

– Samu, Jordan, November 13, 1966 – the IDF destroyed 125 houses, a school, clinic and 15 houses in a nearby village killing 18 and wounded 54 in cold blood;
Quid pro quo, mother-******!


"Arab and Palestinian terrorism against Israel existed prior to the beginning of Israeli control over the West Bank and Gaza as a result of the Six Day War of June 1967, and even prior to the establishment of the State of Israel in May 1948.

For example, Arab terrorism was rampant during wave of anti-Jewish riots in 1920-21 (which was characterized by the brutal murder in Jaffa of the prominent Jewish author Y. Brenner), during the ‘Disturbances’ of 1929 (which included the massacre of the Jewish community in Hebron), during the Arab Revolt of 1936-39, and in many other recorded incidents of wholesale anti-Jewish Arab violence throughout the pre-state period.

The Palestinian terrorism campaign was stepped-up on the eve of the UN Partition Resolution of November 1947, and led to the joint Arab invasion of 1948-49 which delineated the boundaries of the newly established State of Israel."

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Like I said, another fly-by-night idiot with zero facts or knowledge, just juvenile slogans and lots of teenage attitude.

You're an idiot.
A few quick points...

There was no major incidents of violence between indigenous arabs and indigenous jews in Palestine until the Zionist migrations. So the major escalation of violence started when Zionists came to the hood.

Zionists came in with racist, apartheid policies and treated the arab residents like garbage, that's why the arabs rebelled.

The Hebron Massacre was started by Zionists when they went down to the Wailing Wall and declared it theirs.

The reason arab armies went into Palestine in '48, was to ensure the inalienable rights of indigenous arabs that were being stripped from them by jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.


So what was the genocide of the Jewish tribe in 627 then, a fantasy of Allah's. How about this map of muslim (Palestinian) terrorist attacks on Jews then

Massacremap.jpg
 
My grandparents were from Scotland, England, and Germany.

Does that mean that I am not American?

If you recognize immigration as legal, why do you call the Jewish immigrants to Israel "criminals"? My grandparents moved to Israel after the carnage of WW2, and they were denied visas to America.

I do recognize immigration as legal. However, we need to define the term.

IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence. Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws and our Constitution.

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions: Alien, Immigrant, Illegal Alien, Undocumented Immigrant

Using this definition the settlers imported into Palestine by the Zionists were not immigrants. They were aliens. They were foreigners.

They were not there to swear allegiance to Palestine but to destroy Palestine and replace it with a Jewish state.


So what does this make all the muslims that migrated to Palestine looking for work on Jewish owned farms.
 
If you recognize immigration as legal, why do you call the Jewish immigrants to Israel "criminals"? My grandparents moved to Israel after the carnage of WW2, and they were denied visas to America.

I do recognize immigration as legal. However, we need to define the term.

IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence. Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws and our Constitution.

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country.

Definitions: Alien, Immigrant, Illegal Alien, Undocumented Immigrant

Using this definition the settlers imported into Palestine by the Zionists were not immigrants. They were aliens. They were foreigners.

They were not there to swear allegiance to Palestine but to destroy Palestine and replace it with a Jewish state.


So what does this make all the muslims that migrated to Palestine looking for work on Jewish owned farms.

Did they apply for or receive Palestinian citizenship?

Not that it matters. It was the Zionist imports who were foreigners.
 
Probably the reason Arafat didn't sign a peace agreement when he was offered 98 percent of what he wanted. He wanted to save his own skin from his fellow Arabs.

What the Palestinians and Arabs Think of Kerry's New Ideas
by Khaled Abu Toameh • December 27, 2013 at 5:00 am

It is hard to see how Abbas would be able to retract his position now that the Arab League has also rejected Kerry's ideas. Kerry will now have to launch a new diplomatic campaign to convince the Arab League to change its position. And for the Arab countries to do that really would take a miracle.

The Palestinian Authority does not like U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's latest ideas for peace between the Palestinians and Israelis.

The Palestinians especially do not like Kerry's proposal that Israel maintain a military presence in the Jordan Valley if and when a Palestinian state is established next to Israel.


Continue reading at:

Gatestone Institute

Kerry will now have to launch a new diplomatic campaign to convince the Arab League to change its position.

Kerry really needs to make a better offer. The Palestinians are not buying his crap.


What would you propose then, that does not go against the UN charter and the UN resolutions in regards to peace. ( at no time have the UN demanded that Israel return to the 1967 cease fire lines )
 
I do recognize immigration as legal. However, we need to define the term.



Using this definition the settlers imported into Palestine by the Zionists were not immigrants. They were aliens. They were foreigners.

They were not there to swear allegiance to Palestine but to destroy Palestine and replace it with a Jewish state.


So what does this make all the muslims that migrated to Palestine looking for work on Jewish owned farms.

Did they apply for or receive Palestinian citizenship?

Not that it matters. It was the Zionist imports who were foreigners.


I doubt it as that would mean they were Jews, and no self respecting muslim would confess to wanting to be a jew. ( from before arabs became muslims it was always accepted that only Jews could be Palestinians, and the term was used as foul language by the arabs )

Would you like to define Zionist, seeing as the other NAZI JEW HATER has refused to ?
Lets see if you give the palestinian blood libel definition
 
Probably the reason Arafat didn't sign a peace agreement when he was offered 98 percent of what he wanted. He wanted to save his own skin from his fellow Arabs.

What the Palestinians and Arabs Think of Kerry's New Ideas
by Khaled Abu Toameh • December 27, 2013 at 5:00 am

It is hard to see how Abbas would be able to retract his position now that the Arab League has also rejected Kerry's ideas. Kerry will now have to launch a new diplomatic campaign to convince the Arab League to change its position. And for the Arab countries to do that really would take a miracle.

The Palestinian Authority does not like U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's latest ideas for peace between the Palestinians and Israelis.

The Palestinians especially do not like Kerry's proposal that Israel maintain a military presence in the Jordan Valley if and when a Palestinian state is established next to Israel.


Continue reading at:

Gatestone Institute

Kerry will now have to launch a new diplomatic campaign to convince the Arab League to change its position.

Kerry really needs to make a better offer. The Palestinians are not buying his crap.


What would you propose then, that does not go against the UN charter and the UN resolutions in regards to peace. ( at no time have the UN demanded that Israel return to the 1967 cease fire lines )

The Palestinians want a peace agreement based on the UN Charter and international law.

I don't see why there should be such a problem with that. People act like they are asking for the moon.
 
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So what does this make all the muslims that migrated to Palestine looking for work on Jewish owned farms.

Did they apply for or receive Palestinian citizenship?

Not that it matters. It was the Zionist imports who were foreigners.


I doubt it as that would mean they were Jews, and no self respecting muslim would confess to wanting to be a jew. ( from before arabs became muslims it was always accepted that only Jews could be Palestinians, and the term was used as foul language by the arabs )

Would you like to define Zionist, seeing as the other NAZI JEW HATER has refused to ?
Lets see if you give the palestinian blood libel definition

Your opinion is based on false premise.

The PLO charter specifies that native Jews are considered legitimate Palestinian citizens.

The international definition of who is a Palestinian says the same thing.

I don't see where you get that hate thing.
 
Kerry really needs to make a better offer. The Palestinians are not buying his crap.


What would you propose then, that does not go against the UN charter and the UN resolutions in regards to peace. ( at no time have the UN demanded that Israel return to the 1967 cease fire lines )

The Palestinians want a peace agreement based on the UN Charter and international law.

I don't see why there should be such a problem with that. People act like they are asking for the moon.



Then why didn't they accept the one on the table at Camp David that went beyond the UN charter. Why did Arafat reject everything and demand that Israel pull back its troops and leave Palestine completely ( when he said Palestine he meant Israel as well as the muslims see Israel as part of Palestine ) You can offer the muslims 110% of their demands and they will still reject the peace offers until Israel has been destroyed and the Jews murdered.

And that is the problem with any third party brokered peace plan. The only thing muslims understand is might rules, so to have peace Israel must defeat them conclusively and show the world they mean business. If that means killing 1 billion muslims then that is what it will take to have peace between Israel and islam. ( forget Palestine that is just an excuse to keep the peace process stalling )
 
What would you propose then, that does not go against the UN charter and the UN resolutions in regards to peace. ( at no time have the UN demanded that Israel return to the 1967 cease fire lines )

The Palestinians want a peace agreement based on the UN Charter and international law.

I don't see why there should be such a problem with that. People act like they are asking for the moon.



Then why didn't they accept the one on the table at Camp David that went beyond the UN charter. Why did Arafat reject everything and demand that Israel pull back its troops and leave Palestine completely ( when he said Palestine he meant Israel as well as the muslims see Israel as part of Palestine ) You can offer the muslims 110% of their demands and they will still reject the peace offers until Israel has been destroyed and the Jews murdered.

And that is the problem with any third party brokered peace plan. The only thing muslims understand is might rules, so to have peace Israel must defeat them conclusively and show the world they mean business. If that means killing 1 billion muslims then that is what it will take to have peace between Israel and islam. ( forget Palestine that is just an excuse to keep the peace process stalling )

Then why didn't they accept the one on the table at Camp David that went beyond the UN charter.

Because it is not true.
 
So what was the genocide of the Jewish tribe in 627 then, a fantasy of Allah's. How about this map of muslim (Palestinian) terrorist attacks on Jews then

Massacremap.jpg
What happened 2000 years ago, don't mean shit today!


Do you hate Kobe Bryant?


 
Did they apply for or receive Palestinian citizenship?

Not that it matters. It was the Zionist imports who were foreigners.


I doubt it as that would mean they were Jews, and no self respecting muslim would confess to wanting to be a jew. ( from before arabs became muslims it was always accepted that only Jews could be Palestinians, and the term was used as foul language by the arabs )

Would you like to define Zionist, seeing as the other NAZI JEW HATER has refused to ?
Lets see if you give the palestinian blood libel definition

Your opinion is based on false premise.

The PLO charter specifies that native Jews are considered legitimate Palestinian citizens.

The international definition of who is a Palestinian says the same thing.

I don't see where you get that hate thing.


My opinion is based on reality and fact gleaned from Islamic sources like the PLO.

You do realise that all those jews are now dead, as the distinctipon does not pass down from father to son.

The international definition says that if a muslims fathers goat ate grass in Palestine then his descendants can claim Palestinian citizenship.

Simple your use of the term Zionist as if it was something abhorrent and evil. only NAZI JEW HATERS and muslims use it like that.

So another NAZI JEW HATER refuses to give their definition of Zionist, that makes the total over 1 million to date. What are you NAZI's so afraid of ?
 
The Palestinians want a peace agreement based on the UN Charter and international law.

I don't see why there should be such a problem with that. People act like they are asking for the moon.



Then why didn't they accept the one on the table at Camp David that went beyond the UN charter. Why did Arafat reject everything and demand that Israel pull back its troops and leave Palestine completely ( when he said Palestine he meant Israel as well as the muslims see Israel as part of Palestine ) You can offer the muslims 110% of their demands and they will still reject the peace offers until Israel has been destroyed and the Jews murdered.

And that is the problem with any third party brokered peace plan. The only thing muslims understand is might rules, so to have peace Israel must defeat them conclusively and show the world they mean business. If that means killing 1 billion muslims then that is what it will take to have peace between Israel and islam. ( forget Palestine that is just an excuse to keep the peace process stalling )

Then why didn't they accept the one on the table at Camp David that went beyond the UN charter.

Because it is not true.



It is true and every one there admits that Arafat was just making a name for himself. The Israelis mad concession after concession and they were acceptable under the UN charter and res 242 and Arafat demanded that Israel remove all Jews from Palestine as defined in the PLO charter.
 
Not in England it doesn't as it is the correct way of saying it, or if you want it in your pidgin English was the attacks on Israel that culminated in reprisals by Israel NOT ALSO ILLEGAL
If you're referring to the rocket attacks, yes; if you're referring to Syria, Iran and Iraq, no.
 
15th post
So what was the genocide of the Jewish tribe in 627 then, a fantasy of Allah's. How about this map of muslim (Palestinian) terrorist attacks on Jews then

Massacremap.jpg
What happened 2000 years ago, don't mean shit today!


Do you hate Kobe Bryant?





Try again as the link shows what happened in 1929 and goes back 1400 years. And it proves that islam has murdered Jews in that 1400 years.

Sheesh you cant educate NAZI pork
 
Not in England it doesn't as it is the correct way of saying it, or if you want it in your pidgin English was the attacks on Israel that culminated in reprisals by Israel NOT ALSO ILLEGAL
If you're referring to the rocket attacks, yes; if you're referring to Syria, Iran and Iraq, no.

I am referring to all muslim attacks on Israel and its citizens. But maybe you can explain why you don't see the attacks on Israel by Iraq, iran and Syria as being illegal ?
 
I am referring to all muslim attacks on Israel and its citizens. But maybe you can explain why you don't see the attacks on Israel by Iraq, iran and Syria as being illegal ?
Muslim attacks on Israeli citizens are illegal; muslim attacks on Israeli military, are not.
 
Try again as the link shows what happened in 1929 and goes back 1400 years. And it proves that islam has murdered Jews in that 1400 years.

Sheesh you cant educate NAZI pork
What happened in '29, was started by Zionists.
 

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