What the Palestinians and Arabs Think of Kerry's New Ideas

[Sweet_Caroline]

You DO understand that unless the Palestinians compromise, DEEPLY, they will get NONE of what they want, do you not?

Better to get SOME than to get NONE.

And, of course, the longer they wait to compromise, the less 'SOME' there is to be had.

They don't want some, they want it all, but at least they are transparent.

Yes, rather like a petulant 5-year-old child; I want it all, even if that's not really possible.

It's the single most significant reason why they are where they are after 65 years of iincompetency and idiocy and petulance.

Not exactly the brightest crayons in the box.

It is best they are idiotic, and have only half the brain cells of a gnat. That way the land will be kept for the Jews. The Fakestinians have no claim on the land of Israel. They can toddle off to where they belong.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You DO understand that unless the Palestinians compromise, DEEPLY, they will get NONE of what they want, do you not?

Better to get SOME than to get NONE.

And, of course, the longer they wait to compromise, the less 'SOME' there is to be had.

They don't want some, they want it all, but at least they are transparent.

Yes, rather like a petulant 5-year-old child; I want it all, even if that's not really possible.

It's the single most significant reason why they are where they are after 65 years of iincompetency and idiocy and petulance.

Not exactly the brightest crayons in the box.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyvNURYBV5E]Rafeef Ziadah Talk at the University of Southampton - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

They don't want some, they want it all, but at least they are transparent.

Yes, rather like a petulant 5-year-old child; I want it all, even if that's not really possible.

It's the single most significant reason why they are where they are after 65 years of iincompetency and idiocy and petulance.

Not exactly the brightest crayons in the box.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyvNURYBV5E]Rafeef Ziadah Talk at the University of Southampton - YouTube[/ame]

Another video you want us to spend half an hour on. At least give us an idea what are in your stupid videos.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yes, rather like a petulant 5-year-old child; I want it all, even if that's not really possible.

It's the single most significant reason why they are where they are after 65 years of iincompetency and idiocy and petulance.

Not exactly the brightest crayons in the box.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyvNURYBV5E]Rafeef Ziadah Talk at the University of Southampton - YouTube[/ame]

Another video you want us to spend half an hour on. At least give us an idea what are in your stupid videos.

Why ask? You really don't want to know.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

You DO understand that unless the Palestinians compromise, DEEPLY, they will get NONE of what they want, do you not?

Better to get SOME than to get NONE.

And, of course, the longer they wait to compromise, the less 'SOME' there is to be had.

They don't want some, they want it all, but at least they are transparent.

Yes, rather like a petulant 5-year-old child; I want it all, even if that's not really possible.

It's the single most significant reason why they are where they are after 65 years of iincompetency and idiocy and petulance.

Not exactly the brightest crayons in the box.

Palestinians are Arabs at the end of the day, and all Arabs are not that bright, as well as being destructive. I'm writing a book called "Hollywood and the Bible". In the research that I did for the book, I learned this little tidbit. Many local Egyptians were used in shooting the Tower of Babel segment in the 1966 film "The Bible". Production had to be stopped for several days because those Egyptians were involved in rock-throwing incidents. Some things never change.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Rafeef Ziadah Talk at the University of Southampton - YouTube

Another video you want us to spend half an hour on. At least give us an idea what are in your stupid videos.

Why ask? You really don't want to know.

If you can't give us a summary of what you viewed in that video, then it is a waste of time us spending 30 minutes watching it.

 

[rhodescholar]

Probably the reason Arafat didn't sign a peace agreement when he was offered 98 percent of what he wanted. He wanted to save his own skin from his fellow Arabs.

What the Palestinians and Arabs Think of Kerry's New Ideas
by Khaled Abu Toameh • December 27, 2013 at 5:00 am

It is hard to see how Abbas would be able to retract his position now that the Arab League has also rejected Kerry's ideas. Kerry will now have to launch a new diplomatic campaign to convince the Arab League to change its position. And for the Arab countries to do that really would take a miracle.

The Palestinian Authority does not like U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's latest ideas for peace between the Palestinians and Israelis.

The Palestinians especially do not like Kerry's proposal that Israel maintain a military presence in the Jordan Valley if and when a Palestinian state is established next to Israel.


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The article is a good read, and this paragragh is telling:

"Since the violent takeover of the Gaza Strip, Hamas has poured millions of tons of concrete into building tunnels, the sole purpose of which is to provide easy access for terrorist operatives seeking to infiltrate into Israel. Hamas could have used the concrete to build houses, schools and hospitals, but instead diverted it to terrorism. Hamas evidently far prefers to spend its billions on weapons it can use against Israel rather than on the agriculture, economy, health and welfare of the people who are dependent on it."

The problem is that so much of the world hates jews. If Israel was a christian country, does anyone really think that all of the crap, terrorism, lies, propaganda, etc., coming from hamas, hezbollah, the arabs and iran would be receiving the attention and credence it does, and has for decades?

 

[rhodescholar]

Sallly, There is an agenda in the underpinning of the Arab League position.

The Arab League does not, necessarily want to see the conflict resolved. They do not want to see it expand into another regional wide conflict in the conventional sense; but they see no benefit in resolution or settlement.

And this latent agenda is not something that the US can overcome.

It serves no Arab Leadership or Ruling Elite to have the fundamentalist, Jihadist, and Fedayeen, to be running loose in the region.

Most Respectfully,
R

Agreed. For one, as long as the current iranian regime exists, there is no chance for a peace agreement. It's also why I find it so hilarious that the Obama admin is working on this nonsensical nuke agreement with iran, as if they are like any other people who can be trusted.

As you said, what would pieces of shit like ashton do for a living if this conflict was resolved? Gardening?

 

[rhodescholar]

United Nations resolution 3236

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:

(a) The right to self-determination without external interference;

(b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

2. Reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return;

3. Emphasizes that full respect for and the realization of these inalienable rights of the Palestinian people are indispensable for the solution of the question of Palestine;

4. Recognizes that the Palestinian people is a principal party in the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

5. Further recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to regain its rights by all means in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations;

6. Appeals to all States and international organizations to extend their support to the Palestinian people in its struggle to restore its rights, in accordance with the Charter;

UN General Assembly Resolution 3236 and UN General Assembly Resolution 3237

When is Kerry going to step up to the plate?

When are the Palestinians going to stop leaning on 40-year-old shit that is inoperative in whole or in part, in the context of the Real World? Or 65-year-old shit, for that matter?

The same year chimps like tin-turd realize that UNGA resolutions are not legally binding, and are merely suggestions without authority.

 

[P F Tinmore]

United Nations resolution 3236

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:

(a) The right to self-determination without external interference;

(b) The right to national independence and sovereignty;

2. Reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return;

3. Emphasizes that full respect for and the realization of these inalienable rights of the Palestinian people are indispensable for the solution of the question of Palestine;

4. Recognizes that the Palestinian people is a principal party in the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

5. Further recognizes the right of the Palestinian people to regain its rights by all means in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations;

6. Appeals to all States and international organizations to extend their support to the Palestinian people in its struggle to restore its rights, in accordance with the Charter;

UN General Assembly Resolution 3236 and UN General Assembly Resolution 3237

When is Kerry going to step up to the plate?

When are the Palestinians going to stop leaning on 40-year-old shit that is inoperative in whole or in part, in the context of the Real World? Or 65-year-old shit, for that matter?

The same year chimps like tin-turd realize that UNGA resolutions are not legally binding, and are merely suggestions without authority.

Indeed, UNGA resolution 181 comes to mind.

 

[rhodescholar]

Indeed, UNGA resolution 181 comes to mind.

Indeed, since most of the jew-hating trash like you always states that 181 was never implemented. But as expected, the arabs chose war instead of further diplomacy, as would be epected of every other group of humans. As we all know, arab muslims (and their racist, fetid apologists) are "special" and don't need to adhere to the same norms as others.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, UNGA resolution 181 comes to mind.

Indeed, since most of the jew-hating trash like you always states that 181 was never implemented. But as expected, the arabs chose war instead of further diplomacy, as would be epected of every other group of humans. As we all know, arab muslims (and their racist, fetid apologists) are "special" and don't need to adhere to the same norms as others.

UNGA resolution 181 was a suggestion. It was Britain, in its mandate, who refused to implement resolution 181 because both sides did not approve.

 

[Phoenall]

Rafeef Ziadah Talk at the University of Southampton - YouTube

Another video you want us to spend half an hour on. At least give us an idea what are in your stupid videos.

Why ask? You really don't want to know.

Watched it and found it full of Islamic lies and blood libels. The security fence is not illegal as is stated at the begining, if it was then Palestine itself is illegal. The security fence is there to protect Israel citizens from terrorist attacks, and to keep foreign nationals out of Israel. Isreal has the right under International Law to stop anyone from entering its territory and does not have to give a reason why, just as the USA is also allowed to do. Start thinking along the lines of "does the USA do this to foreign nationals, and if it does do I support it"

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Every country has the right to safeguard its borders particularly with the bordering country vowing to wipe it out.

 

[Phoenall]

They don't want some, they want it all, but at least they are transparent.

Yes, rather like a petulant 5-year-old child; I want it all, even if that's not really possible.

It's the single most significant reason why they are where they are after 65 years of iincompetency and idiocy and petulance.

Not exactly the brightest crayons in the box.

Palestinians are Arabs at the end of the day, and all Arabs are not that bright, as well as being destructive. I'm writing a book called "Hollywood and the Bible". In the research that I did for the book, I learned this little tidbit. Many local Egyptians were used in shooting the Tower of Babel segment in the 1966 film "The Bible". Production had to be stopped for several days because those Egyptians were involved in rock-throwing incidents. Some things never change.

Most Palestinians are not arabs at all but ill educated and illiterate Pakistani's, afgahni's, Egyptians, Iraqi's and Iranians. Their leader for many years was an Egyptian by the name of Arafat

 

[Phoenall]

When are the Palestinians going to stop leaning on 40-year-old shit that is inoperative in whole or in part, in the context of the Real World? Or 65-year-old shit, for that matter?

The same year chimps like tin-turd realize that UNGA resolutions are not legally binding, and are merely suggestions without authority.

Indeed, UNGA resolution 181 comes to mind.

Thus making your fantasy claims of international borders of Palestine a LIE, why do you shoot yourself in the foot ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Another video you want us to spend half an hour on. At least give us an idea what are in your stupid videos.

Why ask? You really don't want to know.

Watched it and found it full of Islamic lies and blood libels. The security fence is not illegal as is stated at the begining, if it was then Palestine itself is illegal. The security fence is there to protect Israel citizens from terrorist attacks, and to keep foreign nationals out of Israel. Isreal has the right under International Law to stop anyone from entering its territory and does not have to give a reason why, just as the USA is also allowed to do. Start thinking along the lines of "does the USA do this to foreign nationals, and if it does do I support it"

Examples?

 

[Phoenall]

Indeed, UNGA resolution 181 comes to mind.

Indeed, since most of the jew-hating trash like you always states that 181 was never implemented. But as expected, the arabs chose war instead of further diplomacy, as would be epected of every other group of humans. As we all know, arab muslims (and their racist, fetid apologists) are "special" and don't need to adhere to the same norms as others.

UNGA resolution 181 was a suggestion. It was Britain, in its mandate, who refused to implement resolution 181 because both sides did not approve.

LIAR as Britain had already given the mandated land to the UN to dispose of. It was the muslims that refused to abide by the principals and demanded that they be given all of the M.E. to rule.

 

[Phoenall]

Why ask? You really don't want to know.

Watched it and found it full of Islamic lies and blood libels. The security fence is not illegal as is stated at the begining, if it was then Palestine itself is illegal. The security fence is there to protect Israel citizens from terrorist attacks, and to keep foreign nationals out of Israel. Isreal has the right under International Law to stop anyone from entering its territory and does not have to give a reason why, just as the USA is also allowed to do. Start thinking along the lines of "does the USA do this to foreign nationals, and if it does do I support it"

Examples?

Read the above again were I gave the example voiced in the first 20 seconds of the film. Need I go any further than that ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, since most of the jew-hating trash like you always states that 181 was never implemented. But as expected, the arabs chose war instead of further diplomacy, as would be epected of every other group of humans. As we all know, arab muslims (and their racist, fetid apologists) are "special" and don't need to adhere to the same norms as others.

UNGA resolution 181 was a suggestion. It was Britain, in its mandate, who refused to implement resolution 181 because both sides did not approve.

LIAR as Britain had already given the mandated land to the UN to dispose of. It was the muslims that refused to abide by the principals and demanded that they be given all of the M.E. to rule.

Not true. Britain never annexed or otherwise claimed ownership of Palestinian land.