What should the verdict be in the Floyd trial?

Not guilty of murder.
But guilty of some appropriate lesser charge.
Manslaughter, wrongful death, aggravated assault resulting in death, sumfin'...
What happened is pretty clear (even if some are predictably trying to make it about drugs), and he's guilty of whatever is legally appropriate.

I only have one question, and it may have already been addressed in the trial: How does the officer's actions compare to current training and rules? Depending on that answer, this might be another situation in which we need to know (and perhaps fix) expectations put on these guys. If the rules under which he operates indicate that what he was doing was acceptable, that needs to be addressed. Nationally.
 
Fake
There is no 9 minute choke. Bogus emotional fodder
When you actually can’t breathe then you can’t yell out over and over that you can’t breathe.

Actually, that's a falacy... let's see what real doctors say.



One told Floyd it takes “a lot of oxygen” to talk, while another told angry bystanders that Floyd was “talking, so he can breathe.”

That reaction -- seen in police restraint deaths around the country -- is dangerously wrong, medical experts say. While it would be right to believe a person who can’t talk also cannot breathe, the reverse is not true – speaking does not imply that someone is getting enough air to survive.


“The ability to speak does not mean the patient is without danger,” said Dr. Mariell Jessup, chief science and medical officer of the American Heart Association.

“To speak, you only have to move air through the upper airways and the vocal cords, a very small amount,” and that does not mean that enough air is getting down into the lungs where it can supply the rest of the body with oxygen, said Dr. Gary Weissman, a lung specialist at the University of Pennsylvania.
The ARROGANCE of you libtards is astounding!!!!

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Let’s see if we can understand what we are being told. Fentanyl is itself so toxic that it is sufficient to kill without help from other dangerous drugs in the cocktail. People who died from fentanyl overdose had readings from 0.75 ng/mL to an astounding 113 ng/mL. The average death dose was 9.96 ng/mL.

According to George Floyd’s toxicology report, his blood contained 11.0 ng/mL Fentanyl, plus 5.6 ng/mL norfentanyl, 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine, and three other drugs.


It is clear from the police recordings that Floyd complained of breathing difficulty prior to any police restraint. In other words, he was in the process of dying prior to the arrival of the police. When the police recognized his condition they called for medics. Floyd was restrained on his stomach according to protocol. One effect of fentanyl is nausea. Having a person on their stomach keeps them from choking on their own vomit. This is why police protocol requires them to be restrained on their stomach. "


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Not guilty of murder.
But guilty of some appropriate lesser charge.
Manslaughter, wrongful death, aggravated assault resulting in death, sumfin'...
What happened is pretty clear (even if some are predictably trying to make it about drugs), and he's guilty of whatever is legally appropriate.

I only have one question, and it may have already been addressed in the trial: How does the officer's actions compare to current training and rules? Depending on that answer, this might be another situation in which we need to know (and perhaps fix) expectations put on these guys. If the rules under which he operates indicate that what he was doing was acceptable, that needs to be addressed. Nationally.
WE in my job are trained to lay people with likelihood of vomiting ON THEIR STOMACHS/revovery position......and Floyd was restrained in that position to prevent him from choking on his own vomit. If anything Chauvin gave the shithead a chance of survival!!!

Greg
 
I only have one question, and it may have already been addressed in the trial: How does the officer's actions compare to current training and rules? Depending on that answer, this might be another situation in which we need to know (and perhaps fix) expectations put on these guys. If the rules under which he operates indicate that what he was doing was acceptable, that needs to be addressed. Nationally.

Nope. Any sensible person would realize stepping on a man's neck for 9 minutes would probably kill them.
 
It doesn't matter what the evidence says. CNN has already convicted Chauvin so the pot has already been stirred.
Yes. There IS that, isn't there? Both CNN and MSNBC are having a "field day" with the trial... sucking-in huge 'minority' audience-share.

All over some lowlife counterfeit money -passing violent druggie who was stupid enough to resist arrest and give the cops a reason to neutralize him.

Mind you... that 'neutralization' went too far... nolo contendre... but it would not have happened in the first place had he not resisted arrest.

Re-tards gonna Re-tard... Nature has
DE-selected him. :laugh:
 
Let’s see if we can understand what we are being told. Fentanyl is itself so toxic that it is sufficient to kill without help from other dangerous drugs in the cocktail. People who died from fentanyl overdose had readings from 0.75 ng/mL to an astounding 113 ng/mL. The average death dose was 9.96 ng/mL.

According to George Floyd’s toxicology report, his blood contained 11.0 ng/mL Fentanyl, plus 5.6 ng/mL norfentanyl, 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine, and three other drugs.

So his was slightly above average for death... which means very possibly he could have survived had he gotten proper medical treatment and some thug didn't put a knee on his neck for 9 minutes.

Again, by your logic, we should let nurses in Hospices smother their patients, because "they were going to die anyway!!!"
 
If the Jury has a brain fart and acquits him, there will be more riots. If anything, this trial has brought the whole thing back, people are reminded of why this made them angry.

Why doesn't President Biden call off his dogs in advance. Speak to BLM/Antifa and instruct them not to riot?

Take some Fucking Responsibility.
 
Why doesn't President Biden call off his dogs in advance. Speak to BLM/Antifa and instruct them not to riot?

Take some Fucking Responsibility.

If the jury allows Chauvin to go free, there's nothing Biden or anyone else can say that will prevent a riot.


Bullshit. There is nothing that "requires" Biden and his minions to schedule a riot, regardless of the verdict.
 
The verdict should be not guilty

but I think libs have stacked the jury and the best that can be hoped for is a no decision

Manslaughter... We don't kill drug addicts in this country.
 
Bullshit. There is nothing that "requires" Biden and his minions to schedule a riot, regardless of the verdict.

No one will schedule a riot. A riot will happen if Chauvin is allowed to get away with murder.


Unless Biden and other liberal leaders give the ok to loot and burn implicitly, no one will riot. If I was an insurance company, I'd be looking to cancel policies in the Ghetto preemptively however, just in case.

The temptation of leftards to burn down their liberal cities will be too much I think, regardless of the verdict.
 
A riot will happen if Chauvin is allowed to get away with murder.
If the jury says its not murder who are a bunch of welfare bums from the hood to say otherwise?


Even if the jury were to find Chauvin guilty of 3rd degree murder and innocent of 2nd degree, the liberal mobs would still riot. They will still be thirsty enough to loot a bottle of popularly priced vodka from the local distillery.
 
Based on the news coverage, I'll say the verdict should be 2nd-degree murder. But like in the O.J. case that I followed with a similar lack of intense interest, I'll have no reason to beef about whatever the jury decides.

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What in that discription of second degree murder applies here?

I think manslaughter is pretty clear but I do not see murder 2.
 
He should be found guilty of the charge as stated ... if only one juror says "No" then know this the outrage will be historic and not pleasant ... bet on that and rightly so... the man is guilty and needs to be punished for the crime, no if, and's, or but's.
Basically.
Yea, fuck justice because we got a rioting mob.

This would be funny if so many did not actually believe that caustic and dangerous shit. The mob never seeks justice, just a slaking of bloodlust.
 
Except one thing, audio shows Floyd complained about not be able to breathe before he was on the ground! That’s a fact
All the more reason NOT to put a knee on his neck for NINE minutes
that officer wasn't there then. All Floyd had to do was follow instructions. again, the drugs created the condition. no one else, self inflicted to his health issue.
Ten minutes cuffed, face down, with a knee on his neck is not “self inflicted “
 
Ten minutes cuffed, face down, with a knee on his neck is not “self inflicted
Why didn’t Floyd just give the pack of cigarettes back? Would have avoided a call to police, right?
 

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