What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?

[Sixties Fan]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

 

[Hollie]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

What terrorist attacks?

Links?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

 

[Hollie]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

But you defend Islamic terrorism which is aggression.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

But you defend Islamic terrorism which is aggression.

It is a response.

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

But you defend Islamic terrorism which is aggression.

It is a response.

Islamic terrorism is a response to any Jew being sovereign over ANY part of their own ancient homeland.

Winning, yet????

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

Where is it? Do you have a 1948 map of Israel?

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

View attachment 168847
​

I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

Where is it? Do you have a 1948 map of Israel?

Your bullshirology ONLY works in bullshirology classes.

The same classes you endlessly go to to prove how Jews have no right and PROVE that Israel does not exist.

Anywhere else, it is exactly what they classes are about.

BULLSHIT !!!!

 

[P F Tinmore]

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

Where is it? Do you have a 1948 map of Israel?

Your bullshirology ONLY works in bullshirology classes.

The same classes you endlessly go to to prove how Jews have no right and PROVE that Israel does not exist.

Anywhere else, it is exactly what they classes are about.

BULLSHIT !!!!

I knew you would duck that one.

 

[Sixties Fan]

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

Where is it? Do you have a 1948 map of Israel?

Your bullshirology ONLY works in bullshirology classes.

The same classes you endlessly go to to prove how Jews have no right and PROVE that Israel does not exist.

Anywhere else, it is exactly what they classes are about.

BULLSHIT !!!!

I knew you would duck that one.

You are, again, derailing a thread to discuss a subject which is off topic.

So, a 1948 map of Israel is proof that it does not exist, that it does not have any borders today as negotiated via Peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan which are the non "Palestinian" countries which were holding Mandate for Palestine Land from 1948 to 1967 through their military invasion of those lands?

Now, try to go back to the topic of this thread, if you know how.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

Where is it? Do you have a 1948 map of Israel?

Your bullshirology ONLY works in bullshirology classes.

The same classes you endlessly go to to prove how Jews have no right and PROVE that Israel does not exist.

Anywhere else, it is exactly what they classes are about.

BULLSHIT !!!!

I knew you would duck that one.

You are, again, derailing a thread to discuss a subject which is off topic.

So, a 1948 map of Israel is proof that it does not exist, that it does not have any borders today as negotiated via Peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan which are the non "Palestinian" countries which were holding Mandate for Palestine Land from 1948 to 1967 through their military invasion of those lands?

Now, try to go back to the topic of this thread, if you know how.

I was merely replying to your post. Then you ducked.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

Where is it? Do you have a 1948 map of Israel?

Your bullshirology ONLY works in bullshirology classes.

The same classes you endlessly go to to prove how Jews have no right and PROVE that Israel does not exist.

Anywhere else, it is exactly what they classes are about.

BULLSHIT !!!!

I knew you would duck that one.

You are, again, derailing a thread to discuss a subject which is off topic.

So, a 1948 map of Israel is proof that it does not exist, that it does not have any borders today as negotiated via Peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan which are the non "Palestinian" countries which were holding Mandate for Palestine Land from 1948 to 1967 through their military invasion of those lands?

Now, try to go back to the topic of this thread, if you know how.

I was merely replying to your post. Then you ducked.

Thank you for responding, There is no ducking to your endless need to make Israel disappear from the maps of the world.
It is there for all to see, even those who like to write Palestine instead of Israel over it.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I hear this sometime...

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

(COMMENT)

What is it that you consider a terrorist attack?

Try to be specific so that I might address it correctly. Tell us who was kidnapped, killed or maned → and when...

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Coyote]

I will answer your questions in two posts. First, on the human shield question.

Except for this case

Israel: Soldiers’ Punishment for Using Boy as ‘Human Shield’ Inadequate

.....do you know of any other?

Is this a rule within the IDF on how to combat the enemy?

Or two Israeli soldiers who did not follow the rules of combat?

Does it follow a pattern of terrorism against Palestinians within the IDF? Or is it an isolated case?

1. Yes - many cases
2. Unknown - would need to research
3. In the one case you reference - quite possible in other cases no.
4. It is not an isolated case per the info below.

There are a couple of things to consider here...the power of memes and their resulting inaccuracies.

1. "Palestinians use human sheilds" is such an oft repeated meme - how true is it? How often does it occur?

2. The opposite meme, represented by the picture posted, that is often posted - how true is it?


Human shield - Wikipedia

I don't want to cut'n'paste the whole thing, it's far too lengthy - but it is states that there were multiple occassions of IDF using human sheilds.

In the First Intifada - "According to Israeli defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the "human shield" procedure on 1,200 occasions during the Second Intifada (2000-2005), and only on one occasion did a Palestinian civilian get hurt.[17][18]"

Then: "In 2002 the Supreme Court of Israel issued a temporary injunction banning the practice in the wake of the death of a Nidal Abu Mohsen (19) who was shot dead when he was forced by the IDF to knock on the door of his neighbor, Hamas militant Nasser Jarrar, in the West Bank village of Tubas and inform him of the Israeli army's demands that he surrender.[18][25][26]"​

However that was temporary and it continued.

During the 2008-2009 Gaza War, again, accusations of human sheilds being used by Hamas and Israel abounded according to testimony from both Palestinians and IDF soldiers. A subsequent UN investigation found the Hamas guilty of human rights abuses, but no evidence of using human sheilds in these particular instances.

What I conclude is that the Hamas use of human shields seems largely about where they locate their bases of operation - near or in schools and hospitals, and that seems largely an attempt to use those areas as a sheild to prevent being fired upon.

The IDF likewise uses human sheilds, but they use civilians to enter potentially dangerous Palestinian areas and knock on doors etc. Certianly in one case at least, it resulted in the boy being shot to death.

I do not think such activities have been made illegal yet.

 

[Coyote]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

View attachment 168847
​

I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Depends on how they go about doing it doesn't it?

Like any other people they have every right to purchase property and settle there.

They have no other "right" to "take back" anything.

 

[Shusha]

To P F Tinmore the mere presence of a Jew is "terrorism".

 

[Shusha]

They have no other "right" to "take back" anything.

Why not?

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

View attachment 168847
​

I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?

When the Arab leaders sign a Peace Treaty with Israel, and when IDF or civilians continue to attack Arabs for no reason OTHER THAN to defend themselves, THEN you can call what Jews and Israel have been doing since 1920 as terrorism and not an act of DEFENSE against Arab/Muslim aggression against Jews or Israel.

You are NOT making an impression on this last day of the Gregorian Calendar

Israel is only defending its illegal settler colonial project. That is not legal self defense. You can't defend aggression.

Israel is a recognized country. It has been since 1948.

There is nothing illegal about her.

There is nothing illegal about Jews taking back their land in Judea and Samaria, including the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem, which they had been expelled from by the Hashemite Arabs in 1948.

Israel defends its RIGHT to be a country, a Jewish State, and the homeland of the Jewish People/Nation. She defends ALL who live within her and in the Jewish people's ancient land of Judea and Samaria, Jews and non- Jews.


Winning, yet?????

Depends on how they go about doing it doesn't it?

Like any other people they have every right to purchase property and settle there.

They have no other "right" to "take back" anything.

Did Jordan and Egypt have the "right" to take Gaza, Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter?
And to expel all Jews from those areas? In an offensive war?

Israel wins those areas back in a defensive war from the same countries and other Arab ones.


What rights did Egypt and Jordan have which Israel does not?

 

[Sixties Fan]

I will answer your questions in two posts. First, on the human shield question.

Except for this case

Israel: Soldiers’ Punishment for Using Boy as ‘Human Shield’ Inadequate

.....do you know of any other?

Is this a rule within the IDF on how to combat the enemy?

Or two Israeli soldiers who did not follow the rules of combat?

Does it follow a pattern of terrorism against Palestinians within the IDF? Or is it an isolated case?

1. Yes - many cases
2. Unknown - would need to research
3. In the one case you reference - quite possible in other cases no.
4. It is not an isolated case per the info below.

There are a couple of things to consider here...the power of memes and their resulting inaccuracies.

1. "Palestinians use human sheilds" is such an oft repeated meme - how true is it? How often does it occur?

2. The opposite meme, represented by the picture posted, that is often posted - how true is it?


Human shield - Wikipedia

I don't want to cut'n'paste the whole thing, it's far too lengthy - but it is states that there were multiple occassions of IDF using human sheilds.

In the First Intifada - "According to Israeli defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the "human shield" procedure on 1,200 occasions during the Second Intifada (2000-2005), and only on one occasion did a Palestinian civilian get hurt.[17][18]"

Then: "In 2002 the Supreme Court of Israel issued a temporary injunction banning the practice in the wake of the death of a Nidal Abu Mohsen (19) who was shot dead when he was forced by the IDF to knock on the door of his neighbor, Hamas militant Nasser Jarrar, in the West Bank village of Tubas and inform him of the Israeli army's demands that he surrender.[18][25][26]"​

However that was temporary and it continued.

During the 2008-2009 Gaza War, again, accusations of human sheilds being used by Hamas and Israel abounded according to testimony from both Palestinians and IDF soldiers. A subsequent UN investigation found the Hamas guilty of human rights abuses, but no evidence of using human sheilds in these particular instances.

What I conclude is that the Hamas use of human shields seems largely about where they locate their bases of operation - near or in schools and hospitals, and that seems largely an attempt to use those areas as a sheild to prevent being fired upon.

The IDF likewise uses human sheilds, but they use civilians to enter potentially dangerous Palestinian areas and knock on doors etc. Certianly in one case at least, it resulted in the boy being shot to death.

I do not think such activities have been made illegal yet.

Please take the time to do the proper research.

Assumptions do not count. From either side.