What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?

[Coyote]

The title pretty much says it all. We had a similar thread asking about the Palestinians. But I even narrowed it down for our happy discussions here.

Enough are.

Is that appropriate?

The Price Taggers and their supporters are no different then Hamas.

 

[teddyearp]

Agreed about the 'pricetaggers'. But when you say "enough are" you start to sound like abi, lol.

 

[Coyote]

Agreed about the 'pricetaggers'. But when you say "enough are" you start to sound like abi, lol.

Well....I hear the same from the pro-Israeli's when they talk about the Palistinians....

Both the Palistinians and the Settlers are an interesting an diverse group. Way back I posted an article on the Settlers - hardly unified. But the religious zealots are every bit as dangerous as Hamas.

 

[teddyearp]

Again agreed. I acknowledge that there are extreme elements on both sides and I'm sure you've read me admit it.

But, come on, what is the percentage in your opinion? Don't 'abi' us.

 

[abi]

Agreed about the 'pricetaggers'. But when you say "enough are" you start to sound like abi, lol.

The pricetagger thread got deleted or something.

I never said anything, but that I couldn't find actual stats. That is why I have been posting videos to show what is happening there.

But the religious zealots are every bit as dangerous as Hamas.

They are much more so as Hamas kills far less Israelis than Israelis do.

teddyearp
You have yet to respond to even one post that included the video evidence. The ADF is a racist force that protects the racist settlers. This is Israeli policy. This is state funded terrorism. How can you remain in denial?

 

[teddyearp]

No abi, I did not reply to your video 'evidence' because it was your way to dodge the actual question that is the subject of this thread.

In your thread, I assumed it was based upon personal opinion. To which I replied based upon my personal opinion.

What, again, is your personal opinion? Please?

And your continuing referral to 'racism' is not the subject of this thread.

Please do try to stay on topic.

Thank you.

 

[abi]

No abi, I did not reply to your video 'evidence' because it was your way to dodge the actual question.

You didn't reply because it destroys your narrative.

In your thread, I assumed it was based upon personal opinion. To which I replied based upon my personal opinion.

No, opinions are like what? I came here for actual information regardless of the narrative.

What, again, is your personal opinion? Please?

You hate me because I am Jewish, but not a zionist. You insult me constantly. You refuse to answer anything that leads to your views being exposed, and yet you want my opinion?

I find that strange. My opinion is clear as I wrote above. The ADF is a racist force that protects the racist settlers. This is Israeli policy. This is state funded terrorism. How can you remain in denial?

 

[teddyearp]

You didn't reply because it destroys your narrative.

Yes, I did not reply partially because it does go against my 'narrative'. See how I roll? Meaning I can and will admit it sometimes. Can of will you? Ever? But it also did not actually address nor answer my simple question.

No, opinions are like what? I came here for actual information regardless of the narrative.

That is what you claimed at first, but I highly doubt you would find anyone here on this board that would or could deny that you actually came here to promulgate your own narrative.

What, again, is your personal opinion? Please?

You hate me because I am Jewish, but not a zionist. You insult me constantly. You refuse to answer anything that leads to your views being exposed, and yet you want my opinion?

Here again, instead of answering my simple question, you go on the attack on me. Why? I do not hate you. And I have never intentionally insulted you. Unless you consider me calling you out on some of your half-truths and mainly your true intention of no peace at all in that region to be an insult. To wit: You somehow think that the nation of Israel should be dismantled. And the fact that you have an ulterior motive that does not include the nation of Israel living peacefully alongside the Palestinians is an insult. In my opinion.

I find that strange. My opinion is clear as I wrote above. The ADF is a racist force that protects the racist settlers. This is Israeli policy. This is state funded terrorism. How can you remain in denial?

For this last part I find you flip flopping like a fish. On one hand you claim, "No, opinions are like what?" And then you say that your "opinion is clear". What is it? And this is not the thread for the racist card. Go ahead and play that in my thread that you very well hijacked.

Oh, just to make sure I address everything you have posted, your youtube video that you 'linked' . . . Well, I have already said that videos like that are in the hands of the camera man and director. It can portray whatever type of view (read: narrative) the director wants it to show. Oh yeah. The other major problem with it is it is not in English.

 

[Coyote]

No abi, I did not reply to your video 'evidence' because it was your way to dodge the actual question.

You didn't reply because it destroys your narrative.

In your thread, I assumed it was based upon personal opinion. To which I replied based upon my personal opinion.

No, opinions are like what? I came here for actual information regardless of the narrative.

What, again, is your personal opinion? Please?

You hate me because I am Jewish, but not a zionist. You insult me constantly. You refuse to answer anything that leads to your views being exposed, and yet you want my opinion?

I find that strange. My opinion is clear as I wrote above. The ADF is a racist force that protects the racist settlers. This is Israeli policy. This is state funded terrorism. How can you remain in denial?

I don’t think you are Jewish...Louie.

 

[teddyearp]

I liked Lois better.

 

[fncceo]

Hamas kills far less Israelis than Israelis do.

It's 'fewer', not 'less', and there's an explanation for that ...

 

[abi]

No abi, I did not reply to your video 'evidence' because it was your way to dodge the actual question.

You didn't reply because it destroys your narrative.

In your thread, I assumed it was based upon personal opinion. To which I replied based upon my personal opinion.

No, opinions are like what? I came here for actual information regardless of the narrative.

What, again, is your personal opinion? Please?

You hate me because I am Jewish, but not a zionist. You insult me constantly. You refuse to answer anything that leads to your views being exposed, and yet you want my opinion?

I find that strange. My opinion is clear as I wrote above. The ADF is a racist force that protects the racist settlers. This is Israeli policy. This is state funded terrorism. How can you remain in denial?

I don’t think you are Jewish...Louie.

As I have said, I'm honored, thanks, Shusha.

teddyearp
Does this qualify as terrorism? And does the fact that settlers' attacks rise during Jewish holidays upset you in any way?

 

[Coyote]

Hamas kills far less Israelis than Israelis do.

It's 'fewer', not 'less', and there's an explanation for that ...

Except that is a false propaganda meme. IDF has been known to use human shields.

 

[teddyearp]

teddyearp
Does this qualify as terrorism? And does the fact that settlers' attacks rise during Jewish holidays upset you in any way?

Sigh. abi, I am sorry but again, I will say that anyone can film anything at any time to fit what they want their audience to see. Apparently you do not even understand the very basics of the photographic art.

Which is why I will not respond nor reply upon any of your YouTube videos. And it is also why I will not go and search out plenty of YouTube videos that show the other side. Because I know there are a shit load of them.

 

[teddyearp]

Oh, what the hell:









You want more?

 

[abi]

Oh, what the hell:









You want more?

Nice hijack of your own thread and then you showed your hypocrisy fantastically with your camera angle post above. Flip flop to your hearts content, but you still have not responded to multiple posts and it is because your narrative was show to be false.

 

[abi]

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Hamas kills far less Israelis than Israelis do.

It's 'fewer', not 'less', and there's an explanation for that ...

Except that is a false propaganda meme. IDF has been known to use human shields.

Except for this case

Israel: Soldiers’ Punishment for Using Boy as ‘Human Shield’ Inadequate

.....do you know of any other?

Is this a rule within the IDF on how to combat the enemy?
Or two Israeli soldiers who did not follow the rules of combat?

Does it follow a pattern of terrorism against Palestinians within the IDF? Or is it an isolated case?

The thread is about Israeli settlers, and not the IDF.

How many settlers have conducted terrorism against the Arabs in Areas A or B?

In Area C?

In Israel?

Is it anywhere near the level of attacks on Jews and non Jews, by Arabs of all ages, in all of those places since 1967 ?

I really would like to have a statistic of that since 1967.

Does anyone have a source for it?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: What percentage of Israeli settlers are terrorists?
※→ abi, et al,

I do not believe that Israel has anything like "Extrajudicial Action" and that of "Military Extrajudicial Jurisdiction Act" (legal proceedings and law enforcement action taken outside the jurisdiction or judicial system) like that of the US (example: Osama bin Laden). Many people use that terminology without an understanding of what extrajudicial Action and extraterritorial authority means. But, as our friend "abi" uses it, it is not something bad or despicable. It has clear practical uses. It is covered by law. While the FBI does not conduct foreign intelligence gathering or counterintelligence investigations, it has many other international interests. The US has agents and support professionals in many overseas offices, pursuing terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions in every part of the world. The US also takes part in all manner of global and regional crime-fighting initiatives, including Interpol and Europol, and Resolution 6 Co-locates operations to combat drug activity. It’s no exaggeration to say that the various US agencies have established 21st Century Operations in the protection of citizens and interest of the United States.

What about the extrajudicial killings of Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

I know of no Israeli program for the express purpose of "extrajudicial killings of Palestinians." Are Palestinian killed (RHETORICAL)? Yes, of course. Palestinians have been killed in the venue of both International Armed Conflicts (IAC) and Non-International Armed Conflicts (NIAC); as well as in major foreign intelligence and counterintelligence operation. Are Palestinians killed in the conduct of Article 43 HR essential missions (RHETORICAL)? Hell yes. I supports over the last half century, many Hostile Arab Palestinians have been fatally injured/killed as a result of confrontations tat were intentionally incited, induced and organized for political, anti-Israeli and Jihadist reasons; to include staged media events.

Now, are there times when Israelis have done wrongs? Yes. In a have century, and the tens-of-thousands of Police, Security Services, and military personnel that served and will serve --- operating in an environment that deliberately aggravated by Hostile Arab Palestinian Leader --- to maintain a belligerent and hostile climate and glorifies such action as heroic in the societal view and in a religious context, how could it not be true. The Israelis have, while a much lower level of criminally inclined individuals and many fewer mentally unbalanced psychopaths (than that of the Arab Palestinians), there will be examples of improper action and Major Crimes (including homicides). It is simply unavoidable.

But by far, the number of sociopaths in the overall Arab Palestinian population able to sustain the provide direct support for Jihadism, Belligerent Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence is incredible. Yes, the world thumps on Israel fr its crimes directed at the Arab Palestinians, the fact is ⇒ Israel does not hijack commercial planes, Israel does not takeover cruise ships, Israel does not infiltrate the Palestinian and just begin killing people until they themselves are killed. Israel does nt line-up Arab Palestinian men, women and children and gun them down for the sheer pleasure of it. Israel does not engage the suicide bombings of buses restaurants and reception events just to induce fear in the general population. The Arab Palestinians, or for that matter, any organization or state, has a lot of guile to suggest that Israel is guilty of any criminal on the order of the Arab Palestinians.

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I did a search on the GTD for terrorist attacks the twelve-year period 2005-2016 (≈ 4380). I eliminated all but the events confirmed as a terrorist attack from Palestinian Groups (not all but as listed). Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

If that big-mouth country of Sweden (Conference of European Rabbis requests urgent meeting with Swedish Prime Minister over govt. failure to act against anti-Semitism) were to experience one attack every month, and they knew the source, what would they do?

Most Respectfully,
R

Now it may not sound like much, but when you consider that Israel is about the size of New Jersey (8,019 sq miles), one confirmed terrorist attack (in that small of an area) every 27 days (round of to once a month), it has quite an impact. If any single state of the US was getting a terrorist attack from any surrounding neighbor, we would wack them into near mass extinction. We would total take control of that neighbor.

What about all of the terrorist attacks on Palestinians by Israel?