What Offense Did the Ukrainian People Commit That Caused Them to Be Bombed into Oblivion by The Russian Military at the Command of Putin?

[AntonToo]

again, that was the same narrative in the Viet Nam years, no US troops, then "advisors", then ground troops, then planes, ships, and tanks.

Dummy what part of NO TROOPS ON THE GROUND do you not get?

If you oppose troops on the ground then just say that instead of posting red herring bullshit, while what you actually oppose is material support.

 

[justoffal]

again, that was the same narrative in the Viet Nam years, no US troops, then "advisors", then ground troops, then planes, ships, and tanks. The left always sees war as the end game. Why do you lefties want war with Russia?

They are insane....

 

[Redfish]

Bullshit, "agreement" was for Ukraine to capitulate and after rejecting that Ukraine got back ~50% of territory Russians occupied in the early stage of the invasion.

Ukraine was, and is, a very corrupt country. let Putin have it, then the corruption is his to deal with. But if we do that the payments to the Biden family might stop and we can't have that can we?

 

[GLASNOST]

No one proposed American troops in Ukraine, stop posting red herring bullshit.

We have an agreement with Ukraine to help their defence if they get attackled and thats what we are doing.

Our troops would be on the ground if Putin would take over Ukraine without our assitance and descide to attack baltic countries that are NATO members next.

Jesus, you are full of shit.

 

[AntonToo]

The agreement would have ended the war and opened up a dialogue.

More ignorant bullshit.

Did you read it? Don't lie - did you read it?

 

[Redfish]

Dummy what part of NO TROOPS ON THE GROUND do you not get?

If you oppose troops on the ground then just say that instead of posting red herring while what you actually oppose is material support.

That's exactly what Kennedy and Johnson said about Viet Nam, Are you totally ignorant on this country's history? I oppose any US expenditure in Ukraine. money or equipment or lives.

 

[AntonToo]

Ukraine was, and is, a very corrupt country.

Yep, bullshit red herring failed, so now we are on to some other bullshit.

If it was very corrupt, and you are saying our material support was plundered instead of being used as intended THEN HOW DID IT FIGHT BACK #2 army in the world?

Use your damn head.

 

[Redfish]

No. You (the tax-payer) are buying weapons and giving them away to Ukraine to be destroyed by the Russians so you can buy even more weapons and give them away to Ukraine. Seems to me like the manufacturers are doing a thriving business! How are you (the tax payers) coping with the price of energy and eggs?

correct, but if the vote goes right, that ends tomorrow.

 

[Redfish]

Yep, bullshit red herring failed, so now we are on to some other bullshit.

If it was very corrupt, and you are saying our material support was plundered instead of being used as intended THEN HOW DID IT FIGHT BACK #2 army in the world?

Use your damn head.

your ignorance is almost equal to your arrogance. Ukraine is losing the war, it would be over if Biden had not sent them billions in $ and equipment. Why will you libs never learn the lessons of Viet Nam?

 

[Redfish]

They are insane....

liberalism is a mental disease

 

[justoffal]

Ukraine was, and is, a very corrupt country. let Putin have it, then the corruption is his to deal with. But if we do that the payments to the Biden family might stop and we can't have that can we?

Putin is offering something that makes sense. Ukraine has been trying to genocide it's Russian nationals for the past 15 years.
Putin finally stepped in. The hatred is so deep that there is no way the two contested provinces can remain as part of Ukraine. The war there is 15 years old not 3 years old and it was Ukraine that started the purging process that led to the greater war.

 

[AntonToo]

your ignorance is almost equal to your arrogance. Ukraine is losing the war, it would be over if Biden had not sent them billions in $ and equipment.

Ok lets go at it another way - how does Ukraine corruptly use millitary support?

Maybe they are selling Patriot systems instead of dending their cities against Russian missles?

Maybe they are selling our Bradleys and Abrams tanks? May this is a CGI sequence?

Perhaps they put on the blackmarket ATACMS and HIMARS missles? Maybe this is a fake? This didn't really happen?

Maybe they sell to arab nations F-16s they got?

Wtf are you talking about?

Why will you libs never learn the lessons of Viet Nam?

Because Ukraine is not Veitnam and we don't have any of our troops there. DUH

How many times this very simple concept needs to be explained to you dumbass?

 

[justoffal]

Ok lets go at it another way - how does Ukraine corruptly use millitary support?

Maybe they are selling Patriot systems instead of dending their cities against Russian missles?

Maybe they are selling our Bradleys and Abrams tanks? May this is a CGI sequence?

Perhaps they put on the blackmarket ATACMS and HIMARS missles?

Maybe they sell to arab nations F-16s they got?

Wtf are you talking about?



Because Ukraine is not Veitnam and we don't have any of our troops there. DUH

How many times this very simple concept needs to be explained to you dumbass?

That's never been true. NATO troops and therefore American troops have been in Ukraine since the beginning of the war.
You can't depend on the Western media to inform you because they won't.

 

[AntonToo]

That's never been true. NATO troops and therefore American troops have been in Ukraine since the beginning of the war.

Name one active duty American soldier that died in combat in Ukraine. ONE

You can't, because what you are posting is bullshit, handful of Americans that are maybe in Ukraine would have purely training and advisory roles, not combat.

 

[Redfish]

Ok lets go at it another way - how does Ukraine corruptly use millitary support?

Maybe they are selling Patriot systems instead of dending their cities against Russian missles?

Maybe they are selling our Bradleys and Abrams tanks? May this is a CGI sequence?

Perhaps they put on the blackmarket ATACMS and HIMARS missles? Maybe this is a fake? This didn't really happen?

Maybe they sell to arab nations F-16s they got?

Wtf are you talking about?



Because Ukraine is not Veitnam and we don't have any of our troops there. DUH

How many times this very simple concept needs to be explained to you dumbass?

I am talking about the failed domino theory that you libs use to justify getting us in wars. It is a flawed theory that has never proven true. Ukraine may be selling our military equipment to terrorists, you could be right about that, but we do know that our dollars and ending up in the personal accounts of Ukrainian officials in numbered swiss accounts. and some of it is being returned to the Biden family accounts, that has been proven with bank transfer records.

 

[AntonToo]

Putin is offering something that makes sense. Ukraine has been trying to genocide it's Russian nationals for the past 15 years.

Ignorant horseshit. There were no Russian nationals in Ukraine to speak of. Ukranian passport carrying nationals live in Ukraine.

ETHNIC Russians make up ~20% of Kiev population and even higher ratios in cities like Mariople that Russians totaled - niether place had any idea there is a genocide going on.

Today 20% of Ukranian forces are ethnic Russians, being killed by Russian army.

The fighting was exclusively with RUSSIAN FLAG WAVING SEPARATISTS in so colled LNR/DNR areas, and had nothing to do with ethnicity. And even in that conflict there were very few casualties in 2019-2022 when Russians invaded at full scale and people started getting killed by hundreds of thousands.

 

[Redfish]

Name one active duty American soldier that died in combat in Ukraine. ONE

You can't, because what you are posting is bullshit, handful of Americans that are maybe in Ukraine would have purely training and advisory roles, not combat.

that's exactly how our viet nam fiasco began. why do you want to repeat that?

 

[Redfish]

Hey bullshit peddler there were no Russian nationals in Ukraine to speak of. Ukranian passport carrying nationals live in Ukraine.

If what you mean are ETHNIC Russians, then they make up 20% of Kiev and even higher ratios in places like Mariople - niether place had any idea there is a genocide going on.

The fighting was exclusively with RUSSIAN FLAG WAVING SEPARATISTS, and had nothing to do with ethnicity. And even in that conflict there were almost no casulaties to speak of 2019-2022 when Russians invaded at full scale.

CNN created that lie and here you are repeating it, that says a lot about you.

 

[AntonToo]

CNN created that lie and here you are repeating it, that says a lot about you.

What lie dumbass?

Can you coherently explain yourself for once?

 

[AntonToo]

that's exactly how our viet nam fiasco began. why do you want to repeat that?

The correct answer is NO YOU CAN'T. There are zero American combat troops in Ukraine.

You oppose troops on the ground? Good, so do I and nothing about providing material and intelligence support nescessitates troops on the ground follow up, so you can save that straw grasping bullshit for someone else.