I don’t get why you folks don’t look at the structure and realize it’s working against you. Is it because you think you will be a billionaire one day and don’t what to pay a few percentage points higher in taxes? So weird.
Yeah. This is a real mental block for Democrats. You just can't seem to understand people voting for values outside their own narrow self-interest.
I can't speak to Trump's tax cuts. I haven't looked at them that closely and assume they're like all his other populist nonsense, half baked and ill-considered. But the point I'm making is: free shit isn't everything. Dems are dumbfounded that poor people might vote for a policy that doesn't directly benefit them. Maybe those poor pepole have some like "principles"? Maybe they care more about freedom than class warfare?
More insults instead of support for your argument. Don’t you get tired of getting worked on here like this? It’s easy. Just do some research and respond with an actual argument instead of whatever this is.
What argument is there to make when you are asking if the 50's are....blah blah blah blah.
Yes there were higher tax rates back then. Don't you guys recall how you whine about the effective tax rate of today for the rich. What do you think it was back then. It was a lot lower than your 91%.
Despite high marginal income tax rates, the top 1% of taxpayers in the 1950s only paid about 42% of their income in taxes. See more about taxes on the rich.
Not sure I follow. I posted two articles that outlined the rapid consolidation of wealth away from the middle class and into the top since the 80’s. It is an undisputable fact. I am not sure how you can think that is good for middle class.
I don’t get why you folks don’t look at the structure and realize it’s working against you. Is it because you think you will be a billionaire one day and don’t what to pay a few percentage points higher in taxes? So weird. I got a $20,000 plus tax cut from Trump. I am spending about half of that this weekend at Disney with my kids. Maybe I’ll come back next week with the rest.
You claimed to know (being the avid left-wing Nostradamus you think you are) what people are looking for.
I corrected you.
I am not arguing the structural piece. Democrats, big business, and government have done most of that damage. They align with the rich to create huge barriers to entry for the little guys so they can't compete. But whatever.
I don’t get why you folks don’t look at the structure and realize it’s working against you. Is it because you think you will be a billionaire one day and don’t what to pay a few percentage points higher in taxes?
That's not going to solve much, but the concept is one I am all for.
As a country we have set ourselves up over time for large payouts to the elderly without really paying attention to what that would really look like. Now we are there.
But we also didn't practice fiscal responsibility.
We are now paying over 1 trillion in interest on our debt and our deficits are routinely in the trillions.
When I see a locked in plan that shows how we will pull down the debt, I'll be happy to sign up for higher taxes on the rich to assist. I'll also vote for lifting the S.S. cap on the rich (and everyone).
But not when we have a group of retards like Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, MTG, Bobbit (sp?), AOC, Adam Schiff, Ruben Gallego, Pete Buttiwhater. Debbie Wassougly Shultz, Mitt Romney, and othersrunning the show.
How do you propose we solve this? Do you really think if the government imposes a wealth tax, that that money is really going to go into YOUR pocket? It will just be soaked up in more spending project, pork filled bills and hand outs to politicians districts.
How do you propose we solve this? Do you really think if the government imposes a wealth tax, that that money is really going to go into YOUR pocket? It will just be soaked up in more spending project, pork filled bills and hand outs to politicians districts.
How about a forced increase in minimum wage? All that does is drives prices up so the cost of everything meets the new wages.
The only way you'll get what you want is to force companies to pay people more, while not raising the prices on the goods abd services they make. Hello socialism.
Maybe the answer lies in reducing taxes, keeping inflation down and incentivizing companies to pay more.
I’m for lowering the middle class tax burden and raising it on the rich. For clarity I am in the top 1% of earners.
You are basically saying it’s impossible to have a better structured income level without driving up inflation but I’d point to your favorite era the 50s where the burden on the wealthy was huge and wages at the bottom were proportionately higher so it can be done for sure.
What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.
What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.
What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.
What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.
One of the things the left gets wrong other than not being able to define a woman is the fact that they seem to include illegal aliens as "working class Americans". They are criminals.
So you want to penalize the rich, for being rich? How is that fair? Sure, its great for the middle class, but its also redistribution of wealth.
Again, higher taxes on the rich are not going to translate to more money for everyone else. I think they need to incentivize higher wages and charitable giving with tax offsets, that way the money is going straight to the people rather than being filtered through the government, who will inevitably just waste it.
You are basically saying it’s impossible to have a better structured income level without driving up inflation but I’d point to your favorite era the 50s where the burden on the wealthy was huge and wages at the bottom were proportionately higher so it can be done for sure.
So you want to penalize the rich, for being rich? How is that fair? Sure, its great for the middle class, but its also redistribution of wealth.
Again, higher taxes on the rich are not going to translate to more money for everyone else. I think they need to incentivize higher wages and charitable giving with tax offsets, that way the money is going straight to the people rather than being filtered through the government, who will inevitably just waste it.
