Zone1 What is Wrong with Inequality?

[Woodznutz]

By your post and others, I must assume you are not a white male. There are many white males who are poor or not rich. Just the same as there are many minorities in that same category.

What is holding those whites and minorities back?

True. Most poor people here are white.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

True. Most poor people here are white.

You wouldn't know it. You'd think half of these clowns are minorities themselves, the way they defend crime and irresponsibility and homelessness. For some, being "of color" is an excuse for laziness.

 

[citygator]

The Left should tell their people to straighten up and fly right, then we wouldn't need so many taxes.

The largest recipient of government handouts are to business owners like Elon Musk. Why would you focus your ire on the very small number of struggling Americans vs the Trillions that go out to wealthy owners?

 

[Mac-7]

Maybe the MAGA rank and file is "about helping the working class". But if you try to shift taxes away from the working class and onto the wealthy the MAGA leaders vote "NO". If you try to pass laws providing better services or pay to the working class MAGA leaders vote "NO". If you pass laws to protect worker rights or safety MAGA leaders vote "NO". If you try to protect working class healthcare or spending for veteran healthcare MAGA leaders vote "NO".

If MAGA is "about helping the working class" why do they vote for the party that does everthing it can to make life harder for the working class?

MAGA for the most part are the working class

And they do not demand government handouts that are so beloved on the left

 

[citygator]

You think the big retailers are conservative?

I dont think so

What does that even mean? Big retailers are big business. They are just driven to make money. Nothing else.

 

[forkup]

You think the big retailers are conservative?

I dont think so

You think the president saying to retailers how to price isn't " micromanaging the economy" something you accused the left off.

 

[Woodznutz]

The largest recipient of government handouts are to business owners like Elon Musk. Why would you focus your ire on the very small number of struggling Americans vs the Trillions that go out to wealthy owners?

Those "handouts" translate to payroll for workers. Returning tax money to the productive private sector is a good use of that money.

 

[citygator]

MAGA for the most part are the working class

And they do not demand government handouts that are so beloved on the left

The largest recipients of government welfare are businesses (Elon Musk) and maga states by far. Of course, you know that.

 

[Lisa558]

Oh,and how do you determine if they refuse to get a full time job and simply can't find one because they live in an area where there aren't any?

This is what will happen in practice. It will catch the weakest among you and the poorest areas in your country, those that can't find a job or can't make sense of the new paperwork now associated with applying for Medicaid.the same goes for SNAP benefits. Saying it takes the freeloader and only the freeloaders of those benefits is as I said before simply dumb.

And for what? Balancing the budget. Not hardly. It will increase the deficit. All so taxes on tips can be exempt for a few years. The rest... well the rich thank you for your generosity.

They can expand their reach. They might have to travel an hour or so to work, but whatever. I did it for years.

Stop making excuses for people who don’t want to bother working. There are TONS of people on welfare in cities. There are plenty of jobs, especially once we get rid of the illegals.

 

[citygator]

Those "handouts" translate to payroll for workers. Returning tax money to the productive private sector is a good use of that money.

You're all over the place. Some posts you like government handouts some posts you do not. Seemingly you only support stopping government handouts that will make people suffer. Why is that?

 

[citygator]

They can expand their reach. They might have to travel an hour or so to work, but whatever. I did it for years.

Unemployment is super low. Most of it is transitional between jobs. There are work requirements and time limits to unemployment. What exactly are you bitching about? Specifically?

 

[rightwinger]

The Left should tell their people to straighten up and fly right, then we wouldn't need so many taxes.

Again you choose to live in a society that caters to the wealthy and does nothing for the people.

Your taxes are higher because he wealthy and corporations pay less
Stop blaming the poor

 

[Mac-7]

The largest recipients of government welfare are businesses (Elon Musk) and maga states by far. Of course, you know that.

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Musk usually earns what misstate as “welfare” by providing services

Bringing the astronauts back from space for instance

But I believe that tax cut to wealthy ev buyers is a scam that benefits Tesla

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Again you choose to live in a society that caters to the wealthy and does nothing for the people.

Your taxes are higher because he wealthy and corporations pay less
Stop blaming the poor

To which, the Democrats are just as guilty of.
The only real difference is Pubs just cater to the wealthy and also want to lower taxes to spur revenue.
The Democrats cater to the wealth equally as much, but also want to have higher taxes to provide free shit to the poor to maintain a voting base.

End result is no matter what party is in power - the wealthy get favored overwhelmingly over everyone else, and the poor are financed so they keep voting Democrat.

 

[alang1216]

You seem to want to punish those who you feel are undeserving.

Scary place. Look for strident resistance.

Starting life with $10,000,000 is a punishment I wish I would have gotten.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

The largest recipients of government welfare are businesses (Elon Musk) and maga states by far. Of course, you know that.

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There should be no electric car subsidies.

 

[rightwinger]

Saying it takes the freeloader and only the freeloaders of those benefits is as I said before simply dumb.

Those “freeloaders” are getting necessary medical care. They are not getting rich off of it.

The poor…..look at me, I get cancer treatment
MAGA…..Get a job you freeloader

 

[alang1216]

How much

Probably not your best example, Alang. Bill Gates left his children 1% of his net worth which equates to about 1 Billion dollars each. Yes, Gates gave to charity ( a lot!) but he also made sure that his children were secure. So under YOUR rules...how much should Gates have been able to leave his kids?

$10,000,000 but I can be convinced of a different amount.

 

[citygator]

Nothing makes people more poor than other poor people I guess. All the money is in the hands of the rich yet the righties in this thread have been duped into believing that all their money is in some gutter somewhere with a welfare queen watching TV. What a bunch of right wing dopes.

 

[alang1216]

The left's desire to demonize the rich and paint America as a bad place full of bad people, is worse.

What is worse is the conservative's demonize the left in America as bad people when their only crime is disagreeing with the right.