What is the measure of competence?

[Oddball]

IOW, your idiocy has overwhelmed me.

I find that hard to believe, as your idiocy is monolithic.

 

[Auld Phart]

The story about your sister is analogous to trump though he has not quit despite the presidency being beyond his abilities. He too having "no experience with the tools needed, or the time, skill, and effort it would take."

The story about your sister is analogous to trump though he has not quit despite the presidency being beyond his abilities.

and Biden?

wasn't the presidency beyond HIS abilities, considering his mental state?

 

[Woodznutz]

The story about your sister is analogous to trump though he has not quit despite the presidency being beyond his abilities. He too having "no experience with the tools needed, or the time, skill, and effort it would take."

Trump isn't going to quit.

 

[whitehall]

After four years of covering up Biden's mental deterioration and negligence the left wonders how to measure competence? You already blew it you freaking idiots

 

[Woodznutz]

IOW, your idiocy has overwhelmed me.

Even the Dems agree that we have 'regulated' ourselves into incompetency.

 

[berg80]

Trump isn't going to quit.

No kidding. He never does what's best for the country.

 

[berg80]

Even the Dems agree that we have 'regulated' ourselves into incompetency.

Generally speaking, regulations are a response to some kind of abuse. The EPA, started by Nixon, came about to deal with corporate polluters harming the environment and thus the public's health. Child labor laws came about as a result of children being exploited.

Are there instances of over regulation? Sure. On the whole are regulations necessary? Absolutely. Is the regime's anti-regulatory posture in the interests of the public or corporate profits? Clearly, the latter.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Gosh, what a week. trump's pick to lead the nation's institutions in charge of public health blew up the CDC. It's not like he hadn't been told RFK isn't of sound mind.

In an attempt to gain control over the Fed, and thus interest rate policy, trump tried to dismiss Fed governor Lisa Cook. Never before has a Fed governor been fired. The SC recently explained the Fed enjoys unique autonomy from interference by the executive branch. Don ignored it.

In a petty act of belligerence he took away Kamala Harris's Secret Service security detail. Not the first time he's done this to a perceived enemy.

Don's friend Vlad gave his official response to the former's efforts with respect his quest for a Nobel peace prize. Apparently, trump thought Putin would stop the war as a personal favor. Reminds me of when Bush said he looked in to Putin's soul and said he trusted him. Ooooops.

2 Weeks After Trump Talks, Russia Bombards Kyiv, Killing at Least 23​

An hourslong barrage of Russian missiles and drones early Thursday killed at least 23 people in Ukraine’s capital, including four children, officials said.

The assault, less than two weeks after President Trump’s summit in Alaska with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, showed how the recent American diplomatic flurry has done little to change the Kremlin’s determination to continue fighting in Ukraine.

Since Mr. Trump pulled Mr. Putin out of Western diplomatic isolation by inviting him to Anchorage, Russia has made no significant concessions on any of the major sticking points between it and Ukraine, leaving the two sides no closer to peace.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/28/world/europe/ukraine-russia-strikes.html

The premise upon which trump's entire economic vision for the country rests, tariffs, was invalidated by an appeals court. It's not like he hadn't been told they are illegal.

Most Trump tariffs ruled illegal by appeals court, dealing major blow to trade policy​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/29/trump-trade-tariffs-appeals-court-ieepa.html

Don announced his intention to pass major crime prevention legislation in concert with congressional Repubs. They said they have no idea what he's talking about.

Abrego Garcia, after being illegally sent to be tortured in an El Salvadorian prison, brought back to the US to face charges on human smuggling despite trump claiming he had no power to bring him back (how did they get that wrong), is being threatened with deportation to Uganda. This would be an incredibly damaging scandal for any other presidency. For trump's it's one of many.

Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kruse, who authored a report detailing just how full of hooey trump was when he said Iran's nuclear facilities had been obliterated, was fired. In another act of retribution, 30 FEMA employees were suspended after warning Congress about how the running of the agency was jeopardizing the safety of Americans. Neither the firing nor the suspensions were justified.
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IMO, a strong case can be made just from the events of one week (I didn't even mention everything cuz wow, there was a lot) that competence is not a strength of this government. Competence being something trump devotees spend a lot of time complaining about when it comes to how the prior admin. conducted itself.

The legality of tariffs is just one of the many dubiously legal matters this government has made claim to. Legal challenges to policy thus far being the hallmark of trump 2.0. Begging the question, are the constant attempts to expand the power of the executive what competency looks like to the supporters of this government? Is competency being equated with the quest for absolute, unchallenged power? Should it be?

Your measure of "competence" hinges on an appeals court ruling, whereby such a measurement does not take into account the appeals process. Furthermore, it may not occur to you that bringing peace to war is not always instantaneous.

I'll take post #2 for 1000, Alex.

 

[Woodznutz]

No kidding. He never does what's best for the country.

I think what he's doing on illegal immigration is good for the country. Regarding the rest, wait and see.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sux to be you.

Trump’s is the most corrupt, incompetent, lawless regime in American history.

 

[Nostra]

No kidding. He never does what's best for the country.

Wokester lies.

 

[Nostra]

Trump’s is the most corrupt, incompetent, lawless regime in American history.

That the best ya got?

Sux to be you too, Short Bus.

 

[Oddball]

and Biden?

wasn't the presidency beyond HIS abilities, considering his mental state?

"You can't hear pictures"

 

[Woodznutz]

Generally speaking, regulations are a response to some kind of abuse. The EPA, started by Nixon, came about to deal with corporate polluters harming the environment and thus the public's health. Child labor laws came about as a result of children being exploited.

Are there instances of over regulation? Sure. On the whole are regulations necessary? Absolutely. Is the regime's anti-regulatory posture in the interests of the public or corporate profits? Clearly, the latter.

Regulatory agencies are more interested in perpetuating themselves than in performing their mandates. The worst being the criminal justice system. Instead of building more prisons they are releasing criminals due to 'overcrowding'. Criminality is the grist for their mill. If crime goes down so does their funding and their power. Can't have that.

 

[Mac1958]

Begging the question, are the constant attempts to expand the power of the executive what competency looks like to the supporters of this government? Is competency being equated with the quest for absolute, unchallenged power? Should it be?

They don't care. The flock will grant him as much power as possible, because they're desperate and miserable and willing to accept anything to get what they want. Much of the rest of the country just doesn't seem to give a shit one way or the other.

Competence, morality, decency, honesty, dignity? Nah. They're at war. Those qualities are weakness in a war. They've even sold out their religion.

 

[berg80]

Your measure of "competence" hinges on an appeals court ruling

Not really. In the matter of tariffs it hinges on the black letter law the appeals court based their ruling on. Which is not to say trump's court will not make a ruling ignoring law and precedent as they have before.

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm speechless.

Finally

 

[berg80]

Much of the rest of the country just doesn't seem to give a shit one way or the other.

It feels like that at times but there have been nationwide protests the likes of which have not been seen since the Vietnam war. And............

Angry constituents confront Congress on immigration, Medicaid cuts and Gaza

The few lawmakers who held town halls this summer faced voters furious with Republicans about Trump's agenda and with Democrats for not doing enough to fight back.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

Not really. In the matter of tariffs it hinges on the black letter law the appeals court based their ruling on.

Hm, that's what you'd like us to believe. The Supreme Court is next, and your measure of competence will then shift to them when they rule against your preferred way.

I've been here too long, man. I know how your type's sentimentality works.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Which is not to say trump's court will not make a ruling ignoring law and precedent as they have before.

So, this isn't a measure of competence, is it?