What is the legality of Trump's National Guard actions?

[HikerGuy83]

When the voters are wrong, presidents are supposed to educate them.

It is quite clear you have no interest in education. Especially yours.

 

[HikerGuy83]

FBI and ICE had the warrants you've been ranting about. The only real question is whether you are ignorant, a liar, or an ignorant liar.

I pick option #3.

 

[Lesh]

The national guard cannot make arrests or actually respond to protesters

Their sole legal duty under Title 20 section 12406 is to “assist” ICE in the execution of raids

That’s it

NOT riot control unless the Governor calls for that

 

[Rigby5]

He did, he ordered the Guard to be put under federal control.

So back in Alabama Wallace could have just told Ike to **** off?

Wrong.

There is no armed insurrection or armed invasion, and Trump did not go through the proper channels of requesting use of the National Guard of CA by the governor of CA.
So the use of the CA National Guard is illegal.

Eisenhower did invoke the insurrection act legally, because Wallace was in violation of the courts.

 

[martybegan]

Wrong.

There is no armed insurrection or armed invasion, and Trump did not go through the proper channels of requesting use of the National Guard of CA by the governor of CA.
So the use of the CA National Guard is illegal.

Eisenhower did invoke the insurrection act legally, because Wallace was in violation of the courts.

Title 10 was used by both, and ICE agents were being prevented from doing their jobs.

Their legal jobs.

 

[Rigby5]

He was told the guard was nationalized. Orders went to Newsom, and then the feds take over.

Again, by your reading Wallace could have just not given the orders to the guardsmen in Alabama.

Wrong.
The governor has to approve of the federal takeover, and he did not.
Wallace was in violation of the law as determined by the courts, so then the insurrection act was called up.
Trump did not and cannot call up the insurrection act.

 

[martybegan]

Wrong.
The governor has to approve of the federal takeover, and he did not.
Wallace was in violation of the law as determined by the courts, so then the insurrection act was called up.
Trump did not and cannot call up the insurrection act.

Nope, that's the whole point of nationalizing the guard, you dumb ****.

The "Insurrection act" is what created the part of title 10 in question, you dumb ****.

 

[22lcidw]

Wrong.

There is no armed insurrection or armed invasion, and Trump did not go through the proper channels of requesting use of the National Guard of CA by the governor of CA.
So the use of the CA National Guard is illegal.

Eisenhower did invoke the insurrection act legally, because Wallace was in violation of the courts.

Jan 6 was not an armed insurrection. Progs rewrote the rules. It is just if the Republicans copy it. Many citizens are tired of these insurrections. Progressives have weaponized their party. And violence is always on the table.

 

[Rigby5]

Blow it out your nose. I understand that those arrested in LA were arrested for heinous crimes. That is what ICE is for. That is their job. These riots are being organized and funded through the democrat party. Quit trying to make this about Trump; it is about a bunch of thugs and hoods rioting, looting and burning under the guise of some spontaneous immigrant and human rights protest. It is not.

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That is a lie.
Those arrested by ICE in LA were looking for work in Home Depot parking lots.
It is illegal for ICE to raid parking lots without a warrant, and it is illegal to arrest anyone who is just looking for work.

 

[Rigby5]

Yet all the prerequisites are there.

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Wrong.
There is no criteria met for invoking the insurrection act.
No one but ICE is in violation of court orders.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It does not

Of course it does. Citizens will not be left as a sacrifice to the criminal altar. Thank God for President Trump.

 

[Rawley]

That is a lie.
Those arrested by ICE in LA were looking for work in Home Depot parking lots.
It is illegal for ICE to raid parking lots without a warrant, and it is illegal to arrest anyone who is just looking for work.

And Rigby continues to lie

 

[Rigby5]

exploiting humans that are here illegally to help fund your social security is evil and immoral. Modern day slavery frankly, which explains why the dem confederates have started another Civil War.

I at least give you credit for admitting that's why you want them here.

Wrong.
Having them fund social security is a win/win situation.
Its not "modern day slavery" because they are paid.
Slaves are not paid.

And the point is they are native and cannot legally be prevented from occupying or being employed in the land of their ancestors.

 

[toobfreak]

That is a lie.

You wouldn't know a lie if it was the 9 mile wide Chicxulub Impactor coming straight at you at 17,000 mph.

Those arrested by ICE in LA were looking for work in Home Depot parking lots.

Boy, you'll swallow any tripe.

It is illegal for ICE to raid parking lots without a warrant, and it is illegal to arrest anyone who is just looking for work.

Lucky for you, that it isn't illegal to be a flaming idiot. Are you a sock for IM2 or Rightwinger?
Just for that, Trump is STEPPING UP the arrests to triple what they were before.
Grab your socks and bend over.

 

[Rigby5]

Jan 6 was not an armed insurrection. Progs rewrote the rules. It is just if the Republicans copy it. Many citizens are tired of these insurrections. Progressives have weaponized their party. And violence is always on the table.

I think Jan 6 was protected even though I think there was no voter fraud.
I think ICE and the use of the National Guard are both criminal, since they are harming people who harmed no one else.

 

[Failzero]

Totally legal ( like Biden’s Border policies )

 

[0311]

There isn't any. He needs the authority of Congress to use U.S. against U.S. and that has NOT been given. Nor has Governor Newsom requested such support. It is clear violation the Posse Comitatus Act as passed in 1878.

Should Read As:

There isn't any. He needs the authority of Congress to use the U.S. Military against U.S. Citizens and that has NOT been given. Nor has Governor Newsom requested such support. It is clear violation the Posse Comitatus Act as passed in 1878.

 

[Rigby5]

Of course it does. Citizens will not be left as a sacrifice to the criminal altar. Thank God for President Trump.

The only criminals are ICE and the National Guard.
People hiring workers at Home Depot parking lots certainly are not being harmed.

 

[struth]

Wrong.
Having them fund social security is a win/win situation.
Its not "modern day slavery" because they are paid.
Slaves are not paid.

And the point is they are native and cannot legally be prevented from occupying or being employed in the land of their ancestors.

No it’s exploiting them. You sound just like the old confederates defending slavery saying how it’s good for them

Pathetic

 

[Rigby5]

And Rigby continues to lie

Do you deny that its perfectly legal to look for work at Home Depot parking lots, and at least 2 of the illegal raids were on Home Depot parking lots, without warrants?