What is the GOP position on Health Care Reform?

[Nosmo King]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

 

[The Rabbi]

Are you baiting, being deliberately obtuse, or just fucking stupid?

This has been discussed numerous times. Go use the search function.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

The republican plan Is......oh let me find the post BRB

 

[Oldandtired]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

You gotta be kidding me.

If you did not get a raise in 4 years you are one of two things...

Really bad at what you do for a living..

or

Too stupid to get another job.

Talk about a post that uses talking points.......pathetic.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Your thread is too rational and thought provoking to get much of an answer from the knee-jerk "conservatives". I wish they would just change their name to the corporatist party and be done with it. They don't even try to hide it anymore.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Mr Peepers did you see my post above yours....really should have waited until i found the post i made before and posted it here. Now you will look like a jackanapes.


A few of the republican ideas for health care:

1) Allow the purchase of insurance across state lines to increase competition and drive down prices
2) Pass legislation stating that the insurance company can not deny you coverage if you get sick after they have agreed to extend you coverage
3) Pass Tort reform to lower costs.
4) Provide an income tax credit of 100% for those making 2x the poverty level or less. Those at 3-2x poverty get a 75% credit and those between 3x and 75,000/year get a 50% break. Everyone else buys it or takes the gamble of going broke for not having it. Then provide a subsidy for those on unemployment and welfare.



Its really sad that those who support Pelosi/Obama's health care plan have to lie about those opposed to it in order to try and pass the version that their coroporate interests want passed. Sad indeed.

No need to continue to lie about the republicans.....lets stick to the bill.

 

[Oddball]

What is the GOP position on Health Care Reform?

Health Care - GOP Solutions for America - GOP.gov

Saving Healthcare

Only took me a few clicks to find those.

Has the left really become this lazy, or are they so intellectually bereft that all they can do is parrot Nancy Pelosi and Dialy Kos?

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

What is the GOP position on Health Care Reform?

Health Care - GOP Solutions for America - GOP.gov

Saving Healthcare

Only took me a few clicks to find those.

Has the left really become this lazy, or are they so intellectually bereft that all they can do is parrot Nancy Pelosi and Dialy Kos?

OUCH thats gotta sting there Nosmo. You gotta stop listening to the leftthink fringe media so much and start thinking for yourself

 

[Oddball]

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[Mad Scientist]

Your thread is too rational and thought provoking to get much of an answer from the knee-jerk "conservatives". I wish they would just change their name to the corporatist party and be done with it. They don't even try to hide it anymore.

Your post is completely irrational, emotional and typically Liberal. I wish you would change your name to the Socialist/Communist Party and be done with it. You don't even try to hide it anymore.

 

[Maple]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

Do I have to do this again.... Yawn.

1. Tort reform. Osteopathic surgeons pay $200,000 a year for medical mal-practice insurance, 85% of physicians in states where there is no tort reform practice DEFENSIVE medicine, defending themselves against frivolous lawsuits. It is estimated that the lack of tort reform cost upwards of $385 billion dollars a year. The cost of medical mal-practice insurance has risen 1400% over the last few years, that cost is passed back onto us the consumer in higher fees for services and higher and higher premiums. Democrats want nothing to do with passing tort reform because TRAIL LAWYER lobbyists are in the back pocket of democrats as they contribute millions to get democrats elected and re-elected.
Without tort reform there will be no cost savings, you will just continually see increases on your premiums.

2. Open competition- there is no reason that an insurance company has a lock on any state. Competition drives costs down.

3. Group small business- 70% of Americans are employed by small business, yet there is no group plan they can join. Small business can not afford to pay the outrageous premiums on their employees because of this.

4. Health savings plans- for people who are not covered by their employers- Pre-tax dollars that are set aside to pay for Doctor's office visits, dental care, prescription drugs and vision care.

5. High deductible, inexpensive catastrophic plans to go with the health savings plans to work that if you end up in the hospital you are covered. Make this mandatory. It is estimated that 15 million people can afford to pay for health insurance, but they don't, they end up in the emergency room and the rest of us get to pay and pay dearly with ever increasing premiums. The poor can be subsidized.

6. Make health insurance portable, you own it like a 401K and you take it with you should you lose your job or get another.

7.Pass legislation that makes it illegal for insurers to deny pre-existing conditions.

All of this can be done through legislation, we don't need to spend another trillion dollars doing it and we can keep another sure failure out of the hands of a bunch of morons that have BANKRUPTED Social security, medicare, medicaid, The postal service, Freddie and Fannie. Now they want to take over 6% of our economy--

Should Obama succeed in this takeover-
Health care would have the efficiency of the postal service, the compassion of the IRS and will look like the aftermath of Katrina when it's all said and done.

 

[Nosmo King]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

You gotta be kidding me.

If you did not get a raise in 4 years you are one of two things...

Really bad at what you do for a living..

or

Too stupid to get another job.

Talk about a post that uses talking points.......pathetic.

No one in my department got raises. After the premiums were raised, it wasn't in the budget. Try again.

 

[Nosmo King]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

Do I have to do this again.... Yawn.

1. Tort reform. Osteopathic surgeons pay $200,000 a year for medical malpractice insurance, 85% of physicians in states where there is no tort reform practice DEFENSIVE medicine, defending themselves against frivolous lawsuits. It is estimated that the lack of tort reform cost upwards of $385 billion dollars a year. The cost of medical mal-practice insurance has risen 1400% over the last few years, that cost is passed back onto us the consumer in higher fees for services and higher and higher premiums. Democrats want nothing to do with passing tort reform because TRAIL LAWYER lobbyists are in the back pocket of democrats as they contribute millions to get democrats elected and re-elected.
Without tort reform there will be no cost savings, you will just continually see increases on your premiums.

2. Open competition- there is no reason that an insurance company has a lock on any state. Competition drives costs down.

3. Group small business- 70% of Americans are employed by small business, yet there is no group plan they can join. Small business can not afford to pay the outrageous premiums on their employees because of this.

4. Health savings plans- for people who are not covered by their employers- Pre-tax dollars that are set aside to pay for Doctor's office visits, dental care, prescription drugs and vision care.

5. High deductible, inexpensive catastrophic plans to go with the health savings plans to work that if you end up in the hospital you are covered. Make this mandatory. It is estimated that 15 million people can afford to pay for health insurance, but they don't, they end up in the emergency room and the rest of us get to pay and pay dearly with ever increasing premiums. The poor can be subsidized.

6. Make health insurance portable, you own it like a 401K and you take it with you should you lose your job or get another.

7.Pass legislation that makes it illegal for insurers to deny pre-existing conditions.

All of this can be done through legislation, we don't need to spend another trillion dollars doing it and we can keep another sure failure out of the hands of a bunch of morons that have BANKRUPTED Social security, medicare, medicaid, The postal service, Freddie and Fannie. Now they want to take over 6% of our economy--

Should Obama succeed in this takeover-
Health care would have the efficiency of the postal service, the compassion of the IRS and will look like the aftermath of Katrina when it's all said and done.

Tort reform is a state issue. That's where the malpractice claims are filed, in state courts.

Open competition sounds wonderful. right up until you try to take the anti-trust exemption away. then the lobbyists descend like locusts.

A small business pool sounds like a co-op. And yet there is resistance to that. Which GOP leader is pushing hard for such a plan? Name names.

That high deductible plan sounds as if you really don't care about preventative care, just care after a disease has ravaged a person. Cancer screenings, blood testing, prenatal care? Any of that included in the high cost plan?

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

Do I have to do this again.... Yawn.

1. Tort reform. Osteopathic surgeons pay $200,000 a year for medical malpractice insurance, 85% of physicians in states where there is no tort reform practice DEFENSIVE medicine, defending themselves against frivolous lawsuits. It is estimated that the lack of tort reform cost upwards of $385 billion dollars a year. The cost of medical mal-practice insurance has risen 1400% over the last few years, that cost is passed back onto us the consumer in higher fees for services and higher and higher premiums. Democrats want nothing to do with passing tort reform because TRAIL LAWYER lobbyists are in the back pocket of democrats as they contribute millions to get democrats elected and re-elected.
Without tort reform there will be no cost savings, you will just continually see increases on your premiums.

2. Open competition- there is no reason that an insurance company has a lock on any state. Competition drives costs down.

3. Group small business- 70% of Americans are employed by small business, yet there is no group plan they can join. Small business can not afford to pay the outrageous premiums on their employees because of this.

4. Health savings plans- for people who are not covered by their employers- Pre-tax dollars that are set aside to pay for Doctor's office visits, dental care, prescription drugs and vision care.

5. High deductible, inexpensive catastrophic plans to go with the health savings plans to work that if you end up in the hospital you are covered. Make this mandatory. It is estimated that 15 million people can afford to pay for health insurance, but they don't, they end up in the emergency room and the rest of us get to pay and pay dearly with ever increasing premiums. The poor can be subsidized.

6. Make health insurance portable, you own it like a 401K and you take it with you should you lose your job or get another.

7.Pass legislation that makes it illegal for insurers to deny pre-existing conditions.

All of this can be done through legislation, we don't need to spend another trillion dollars doing it and we can keep another sure failure out of the hands of a bunch of morons that have BANKRUPTED Social security, medicare, medicaid, The postal service, Freddie and Fannie. Now they want to take over 6% of our economy--

Should Obama succeed in this takeover-
Health care would have the efficiency of the postal service, the compassion of the IRS and will look like the aftermath of Katrina when it's all said and done.

Tort reform is a state issue. That's where the malpractice claims are filed, in state courts.

Open competition sounds wonderful. right up until you try to take the anti-trust exemption away. then the lobbyists descend like locusts.

A small business pool sounds like a co-op. And yet there is resistance to that. Which GOP leader is pushing hard for such a plan? Name names.

That high deductible plan sounds as if you really don't care about preventative care, just care after a disease has ravaged a person. Cancer screenings, blood testing, prenatal care? Any of that included in the high cost plan?

Ah but they do have plans now don't they Nosmo

 

[Oddball]

Tort reform is a state issue. That's where the malpractice claims are filed, in state courts.

Open competition sounds wonderful. right up until you try to take the anti-trust exemption away. then the lobbyists descend like locusts.

A small business pool sounds like a co-op. And yet there is resistance to that. Which GOP leader is pushing hard for such a plan? Name names.

That high deductible plan sounds as if you really don't care about preventative care, just care after a disease has ravaged a person. Cancer screenings, blood testing, prenatal care? Any of that included in the high cost plan?

So, you admit that there are plans....Just not ones that comport with the fascistic gubmint takeover you want to occur.

Glad we cleared that up.

 

[Oddball]

Off your asses and on your feet, boys....Gotta get this goalpost moved by sundown!

 

[Polk]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

They don't have one. They just have a lot of talking points that are totally disconnected from reality.

 

[Oddball]

See post #7, complete with links, numbnuts.

 

[Polk]

What is the GOP position on Health Care Reform?

Health Care - GOP Solutions for America - GOP.gov

Saving Healthcare

Only took me a few clicks to find those.

Has the left really become this lazy, or are they so intellectually bereft that all they can do is parrot Nancy Pelosi and Dialy Kos?

Does anyone else notice something about those? It's a bunch of meaningless jibberish.
They claim tort reform will reduce costs, except they're already exacted it on the state level in many areas and it's done nothing to reduce cost.
They claim a national market for insurance will provide real choice, ignoring that it'll simply mean companies will flock to the states which give the largest handouts to insurance companies and allows them to write policies that cover less and provide more tricks to opt out of contracts (the exact same thing happened when credit cards were deregulated).

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I work in the public sector and have not had a raise in salary for four years. What would have gone toward raises has been eaten up by rising health care premiums.

And while those premiums have risen, the quality of care has fallen. Our deductibles have gone up, our co-pays have as well. A gap policy was obtained to bridge the gaps our private sector insurer has in spades. This gap policy now no longer covers basic blood work.

I would like to have a better choice in health care providers.

But with all the debate in Washington, I haven't heard anything from the Republicans except NO!

Which begs the question: What is the Republican position of Health Care Reform? Do they see the status quo as sustainable, productive and the best possible for the American people? Are they acting in the best interest of the American people, or the best interest of the Insurance companies? And if it is indeed the latter, why do so many of the new Conservatives think that protecting Insurance companies and allowing them to continue to raise costs while eroding service is such a grand idea?

Tort reform is a state issue, and as such is out of the realm of Washington policy. The anti-trust exemption granted insurance companies seems to flout the competition and "free markets" so many Conservatives rely on to foist their ideology. Why is there no movement from the Right Wingers to enact real reform?

They don't have one. They just have a lot of talking points that are totally disconnected from reality.

Polk im in a nasty mood but you've impressed me in the past with intelligence so i'm just going to give you the link

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...sition-on-health-care-reform.html#post1655402