Democrats put up the worst candidate perhaps in modern history. Yet Republicans won narrowly in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida. The fact is that the electorate seems to be more in tune with voters. There is a pathway for Democrats largely due to the Republicans moving too far to the right.
A Democrat likely will run on undoing the damage Republicans have done to healthcare. They also would likely repeal parts of the Republican tax bill. They also would run on re-regulating. They will run on amnesty and if Trump deports DACA recipients it will give Democrats red meat to run on. All of these are stances the voters agree wsith.
A Democrat likely will run on undoing the damage Republicans have done to healthcare.
That's a great idea! Maybe they could get me that $2500 a year that Obama was supposed to save me?
They also would likely repeal parts of the Republican tax bill. They also would run on re-regulating. They will run on amnesty and if Trump deports DACA recipients it will give Democrats red meat to run on.
Awesome!!
DEMS 2020....We're gonna raise taxes, add red tape and give citizenship to millions of illegals!!!
They'll win 12 or 15 states, easy.
Like it or not voters wanted Obamacare fixed. Republicans are doing everything that will undermine it and are responsible for the huge increase in premiums since the Republicans took over.
Fox News
What do you think should happen to the illegal immigrants who are currently working in the United States -- do you favor deporting as many as possible or do you favor setting up a system for them to become legal residents?
Deport as many as possible 14%
Set up a system to become legal 83%
Do you favor or oppose granting U.S. citizenship for illegal immigrants under the age of 30 who were brought to the United States as children, provided they pass a background check?
Favor 79%
Oppose 19%
Thinking about federal income taxes, how frustrated are you about each of the following:
The wealthy paying too little in taxes:
Frustrated 78%
Not frustrated 19%
Voters might disagree on what you call red tape. Putting coal waste in rivers is not red tape. Requiring financial advisors to put the interest of their clients over their interests is not red tape. Requiring airlines to disclose hidden fees is not red tape. Just because Obama created the regulation does not automatically make it bad.
Like it or not voters wanted Obamacare fixed.
Fixed? You mean like giving me the $2500 a year that it was supposed to save me?
Republicans are doing everything that will undermine it
You mean more than reality was doing to undermine it?
What do you think should happen to the illegal immigrants who are currently working in
I agree, the Dems should definitely run on letting in as many illegal aliens as possible.
And hiking taxes. A bunch. How can they lose with that platform?
Putting coal waste in rivers is not red tape.
Sounds serious. When did Obama fix that issue?
Just because Obama created the regulation does not automatically make it bad.
I'm sure every one of the tens of thousands of pages of regulations Obama put in were all awesome.
Definitely, tell people that we need more. Lots more.
You mean more than reality was doing to undermine it?
The fact is that Democrats can point to specific Trump policies that have accelerated the increase in premiums and Trump's own words to press their case. Obamacare has a approval rating of 54%. It has gone steadily up since Republicans took over. Also interesting poll question by Fox. It asked who would get the credit if healthcare improves. Democrats in Congress got 24% to Trump's 19% and 14% for Republicans in Congress. If healthcare gets worse, 24% would blame Republicans in Congress, 19% in Trump, 14% Democrats in Congress. Also more people trust Democrats more than Republicans on healthcare.
I agree, the Dems should definitely run on letting in as many illegal aliens as possible.
And hiking taxes. A bunch. How can they lose with that platform?
Voters support amnesty for illegals and DACA. They also do not support tax loopholes for the rich. Especially ones that Trump personally benefits from. Fairness is a legitimate issue.
Putting coal waste in rivers is not red tape.
Sounds serious. When did Obama fix that issue?
That is a regulation that was overturned by Republicans. You can make fun of it but Americans are worried about the environment.
I'm sure every one of the tens of thousands of pages of regulations Obama put in were all awesome.
Definitely, tell people that we need more. Lots more.
Voters do not support every regulation Obama made but they also do not support getting rid of all regulation. They also are not partisan the way you are. I personally can look at a regulation and if it is necessary then it should be supported even if Obama did it. Conversely I can look at a unnecessary regulation and say get rid of it no matter who created it.
whatever their path may be rest assured they plan to keep it under wraps until the time comes.
Sounds like Trumps Military Strategy.....and his worked
we know your side's plan
racist
sexist
homophobe
stupid
insane
start WW3
kills old people
poisons the air and water
that's been ever democrat playbook since I've been alive..........it never changes
im not trying to embarrass you off the thread i'm trying to have an honest conversation. And you didn't answer my question. I didn't ask what our economy and society will look like in 30 years. I asked what it would look like if current trend of the top 1% sucking up the vast majority of new money and wealth in this country.
I'll give you my theory and you tell me if you agree or not... The top earners and corporations keep acquiring property and businesses. They gain more power over the marketplace and leverage that power to squeeze out their competitors. Home ownership goes down and renters go up. The number of business owners go down and the number of employees go up.
You want to promote free market capitalism and you despise Socialism, right? Well, this picture i'm painting ends in a form of capitalistic socialism where instead of the government controlling everything a handful of the rich and powerful will.
FYI. I am a business owner. I support low taxes and small government and limited regulation. But I also understand the roll of government and can identify the dangers that can result from an unregulated free market.
Thoughts?
In a way I did answer your question... I said that the 1% have always been around and they have... Since the beginning of time man has been stashing away fur and food... You seem intelligent enough to be able to go back through history and name wealthy families. Vanderbilt, Rockefeller just to name a few... These 1%'ers never stopped Jeff Bezos from driving across the country with a few boxes of books and a dream... Don't fear big business or competition, learn from it...
And the capitalistic Socialism you speak of has a name, Feudalism... It did not work in medieval times and would not work now...
Technology and globalism has evolved a lot since medieval times. Our world has become very saturated and though you are correct that there has always been the top 1% the inequality of wealth when looking at how much the top owns compared to the rest of society has never been worse.
That is about as false and misleading as humanly possible. The idea that wealthy redistribution is worse now than ever before is ludicrous. Rockefeller represents a wealth disparity that far exceeds anything that we have today - his wealth is compared to GDP - that is how massive it was. No one since has come close in this country. Rockefeller does not even represent anything even close to the past either. Nobility used to own everything while the general populous was little more than chattel.
Wealth inequality is a problem - it is nowhere near where it has been in the past though.
I was speaking to wealth AND power in the terms of ownership and global reach. Back in the time of Rockefeller his power was much more concentrated and effected a much smaller portion of the population. We also created anti-trust laws to protect citizens from the possible abuses that the ultra powerful could inflict on our market. Compare Rockefeller to Walmart, google, and amazon. Look at the reach that just those three companies have as far as owning our personal information and controlling the price of goods. I don’t think we’ve hit critical mass yet, there is still a ways to go, but we’ve seen the effect that it has had in small Mom and pop businesses and have also seen similar problems and squeeze out in the farming and ag industry.
I’m only suggesting that this be an important part of our national conversation because it is trending towards dangerous waters and I hear a lot of people laugh and shrug off “wealth inequality” as a meaningless partisan issue
Yes, Trump is wildly unpopular. Yes, Trump is an idiot. Yes, Trump is a pathological liar. Yes, Trump is in love with Vladimir.
Quack, quack, quack.
But...if he chooses to run for re-election (which he may not), he will win again if the Democrats put up a corrupt, entitlement-minded, loser again.
In 2018, the Democrats will probably gain some ground with their "Stop Trump!" platform. That worked in Alabama and Virginia recently.
Exactly what it is about Trump they want to stop has yet to be defined.
But in 2020, the Democrats better have something for their bumper stickers besides "Stop Trump!" They better have a better plan to Make America Sane Again.
"We'll raise tax rates back to where they were."
"We'll let illegal Mexicans back into the country."
What, exactly, do they have?
At this point, I do not see a Democratic road map to the White House. At all.
I hope to Christ the Democrats aren't hanging all of their hopes and dreams on a timely economic crash.
Trump has already filed to run again!
I can never understand how any legal American can take the stance of the Democrats on illegal immigration. While I believe DACA is a totally separate issue, amnesty for illegals screw Americans.
Leftsts use the tax cut to insist that we have just added 1.5 trillion to the national debt by simple math. So then, lets use it for illegal immigration!------------>
If a President......any President, from Obama, to Clinton, to Bush, to Trump.......is told he he/she has to promote policies that create 235,000 jobs to even remain neutral because of population growth and succeeds, that is terrific, yes?
But what good is that IF after making policies that promote these jobs, IF that President allows 50,000 illegals into the country? Those people have to do something, do they not? Either they are taking American jobs, or using American services. As Leftists would say, the math is SIMPLE! If policies help create 235,000 jobs that population growth demands to break even, if 50,000 illegals cross the border, then we are at a net LOSS of 50,000 jobs behind.
By SIMPLE math and logic, the only way MORE people should be let into the country; legal or illegal, is when the jobs numbers EXCEED the minimum number required that we need, AND the over saturation of the labor pool is brought down to acceptable levels.
EXAMPLE----------> Factory needs 500 people to run it. Factory doesn't lock the gate and 750 show up. Factory MUST keep them because Leftists say so.
What happens?
If they put them all to work, wages drop as to many people MUST be employed.
OR.............they pay them for doing nothing.
That is it in a nutshell, the math is sound, so is the logic!
Trump in a landslide!!!
