What is the Deep State?

[Oddball]

Everyone knows the Deep State was organized and is controlled by ancient aliens.

Were that a probability, the aliens wouldn't need to control it...Murica has a sufficiently dumbed down and morally bankrupt populace, that the vast majority act as their own jailers.

 

[badger2]

Many of the prisoners even desire their own repression. How close to fascist is that?

 

[Dragonlady]

Many of the prisoners even desire their own repression. How close to fascist is that?

Americans are "repressed'? "Prisoners"? How close to deranged is that?

When I read shit about how white Christian Americans are the most downtrodden people on earth, I laugh and laugh.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I find it rather instructive that many on the Left dispute that it even exists. They think this way because the DNCMSM has told them it doesn’t exist, which is most convenient for their cause. Adherents of the MSM apparently can’t see the transparent effort to deceive them. It is not only instructive of the success of the DNCMSM to deceive some Americans for the benefit of their bosses, it is also rather amusing that some Americans can’t see the elephant in the room. They must be blind on purpose.

Doug Casey spells it out...please read the entire column.

Doug Casey: The Deep State Is the Source of Our Economic Problems

Who Is Part of the Deep State?

The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

The Deep State has a life of its own, like the government itself. It’s composed of top-echelon employees of a dozen Praetorian agencies, like the FBI, CIA, and NSA… top generals, admirals, and other military operatives… long-term congressmen and senators… and directors of important regulatory agencies.

But the Deep State is much broader than just the government. It includes the heads of major corporations, all of whom are heavily involved in selling to the State and enabling it. That absolutely includes Silicon Valley, although those guys at least have a sense of humor, evidenced by their “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It also includes all the top people in the Fed, and the heads of all the major banks, brokers, and insurers. Add the presidents and many professors at top universities, which act as Deep State recruiting centers… all the top media figures, of course… and many regulars at things like Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations. They epitomize the status quo, held together by power, money, and propaganda.

Altogether, I’ll guess these people number a thousand or so. You might analogize the structure of the Deep State with a huge pack of dogs. The people I’ve just described are the top dogs.

But there are hundreds of thousands more who aren’t at the nexus, but who directly depend on them, have considerable clout, and support the Deep State because it supports them. This includes many of the wealthy, especially those who got that way thanks to their State connections… the 1.5 million people who have top secret clearances (that’s a shocking, but accurate, number)… plus top players in organized crime, especially the illegal drug business, little of which would exist without the State. Plus mid-level types in the police and military, corporations, and non-governmental organizations.

These are what you might call the running dogs.

https://www.caseyresearch.com/artic...state-is-the-source-of-our-economic-problems/

Given Trump has yet to take action to at least TRY and get rid of the fed,the CIA and the FBI.,I have come to the sad conclusion not wanting to believe it the last couple of years,that trump is no different than war criminals the bushs,clintons and obamas the fact he has so far shown he is all talk and no action on getting rid of them and his constant ass kissing of Israeal, that he is just an actor playing the role all americans want him to be,their savior, agree or disagree?

 

[badger2]

Yes, not only is capitalism itself demented, xians are much more susceptible to their own repression due to the moral constraints imposed on their psychic mechanisms (sin, immaculate conception, etc.). The bible is included among the world's most dangerous self-glossing pieces of literature, and timely that the Chappaqua Blue Racer speaks of fascism at Wellesley, 12 Jun 2019.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, not only is capitalism itself demented, xians are much more susceptible to their own repression due to the moral constraints imposed on their psychic mechanisms (sin, immaculate conception, etc.). The bible is included among the world's most dangerous self-glossing pieces of literature, and timely that the Chappaqua Blue Racer speaks of fascism at Wellesley, 12 Jun 2019.

You goofy

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Many of the prisoners even desire their own repression. How close to fascist is that?

Americans are "repressed'? "Prisoners"? How close to deranged is that?

When I read shit about how white Christian Americans are the most downtrodden people on earth, I laugh and laugh.

are you trying to tell us that we americans live in a free country,and it is not a dictatership and are not the most corrupt government in the world? if we were not repressed,how come people are getting beaten in the streets and all the time by the police if we protest against out corrupt government? and why is it that politicians always get away with crimes we go to jail for if we commit those crimes? you seriously trying to say us americans here in the states are not PRISONERS of the government? seriously? you ARE joking right?

Yeah we cant even smoke a cigerette in a bar anymore without going to jail if we dont put it out that we had the right to for DECADES now and are getting one law after another that infringes on our rights all the time month after month year after year,the constitution does not exist anymore because of corrupt politicians,you cannot even question the governments version of events such as 9/11 or sandy hook without getting fired from your job if you do,IF you dont wind up as a mysterious dead body just for raising questions about it,AND the constitution has been burned by corrupt politicians because the government is SUPPOSE to serve the people when INSTEAD we serve THEM.

how does living in a country that is for the corporations,by them and of them,not for the people like we are SUPPOSE to be,how in your warped world you live in think we are NOT repressed and prisoners of our corrupt government and corrupt politicians?


we are laughing at YOUR warped logic.

 

[BluesLegend]

What's shocking about the deep state is just how arrogant they are.

They are?

Then why can’t we see them?

The left will be perp walked into internment camps.

 

[Lysistrata]

There is a cadre of people who work behind the scenes to preserve us and our way of life through any and all administrations. This "deep state" nonsense is an unpatriotic effort to discredit the fine work of these most loyal of Americans.

I do not identify myself as a republican, nor have I ever identified with any political party. But look at how Robert Mueller, a republican, has been treated, a man who I perceive to have lived an honorable life and has done the best that he can for our republic, but catches shit for not towing the party line. He must be "deep state," which means those who operate in the background to support our republic.

I am decidedly NOT a sycophant. Neither is Mueller. I respect him because he is not a sycophant. Neither of us would be a slave to trump/pence. Some people have pride.

Stupid cartoons do not make your point.

The deep state stooge who let innocent men rot in prison to protect a violent felonious snitch is your big hero.

Yeah, you're a bootlicking sycophant alright.

What in the heck are you talking about? That I don't buy lies and idiotic stories made up in some back room? What "innocent men" are rotting in prison? But then again, you voted for two empty-headed, ignorant sex freaks for president and vice president, both dedicated to the destruction of this country.

 

[badger2]

#86: you xian goofy too?

 

[badger2]

Deep State Speaks on Fascism: Hillary Clinton's Kuklos Exothen, Wellesley College, 12 Jun 2019

'But perhaps the label of fascism is thrown around too easily. Political scientist Sheri Berman argues that attempts to equate 'historical fascism' with global trends toward far-right authoritarian extremism, particularly in the United States, ignore the fact that historical fascism was anti-democratic, suspicious of capitalism, and made a virtue of blind obedience to authority. Berman worries that looseness in the definition of fascism threatens to occlude the real problems, which are exclusionary rather than exclusionary practices.

The legitimisation of exclusionary policies such as anti-immigration laws only increases in the wake of the failure of the habits, norms and institutions necessary for democracies to function -- not in the wake of anti-capitalist military coup d'etats.Moreover Berman worries that the looseness in the definition deflects attention away from the responsibility that the left carries in contributing to the creation of a state of affairs conducive to a rise in exclusionary practices.
....
Though US President Donald Trump arguable does not fall under Roger Griffin's widely accepted definition of fascism as a 'palingenetic form of populist ultra-nationalism,' his campaign slogan 'Make America Great Again' evokes the rhetoric of rebirth and nationalism central to Mussolini's appeal, and his policies are explicitly exclusionary and increasingly corporatist.'
(Carr, Deleuze's Kantian Ethos: Critique As A Way of Life)

Comparing the Clinton cocaine video (youtube), we note that a coked-out, cash-flush futures dealer immersed in capitalism who passes a drunk on a Manhattan sidewalk is this anonymous (and exclusionary) distance from death that defines the border wall. Whether its religion's drug to Centrals America's, it's a chickenshit argument by Berman that one exclusionary practice (the wall) equates to fascism. The Chappaquas Blue's talk at Wellesley is a fight for prestige to define fascism in relation to Clinton's internet, Clinton's stigmatization. "If you're not a christian, you are by default a non-christian." Religious protection rackets are similar to drug cartels, when the entire country is presupposed via xian ultranationalism.

 

[badger2]

Deep State origins resonate with the separation of church and state.

Deep State
Deep state - Wikipedia

15 Mar 2017 Friedman's Weekly
The Deep State | Geopolitical Futures

 

[Dan Stubbs]

I find it rather instructive that many on the Left dispute that it even exists. They think this way because the DNCMSM has told them it doesn’t exist, which is most convenient for their cause. Adherents of the MSM apparently can’t see the transparent effort to deceive them. It is not only instructive of the success of the DNCMSM to deceive some Americans for the benefit of their bosses, it is also rather amusing that some Americans can’t see the elephant in the room. They must be blind on purpose.

Doug Casey spells it out...please read the entire column.

Doug Casey: The Deep State Is the Source of Our Economic Problems

Who Is Part of the Deep State?

The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

The Deep State has a life of its own, like the government itself. It’s composed of top-echelon employees of a dozen Praetorian agencies, like the FBI, CIA, and NSA… top generals, admirals, and other military operatives… long-term congressmen and senators… and directors of important regulatory agencies.

But the Deep State is much broader than just the government. It includes the heads of major corporations, all of whom are heavily involved in selling to the State and enabling it. That absolutely includes Silicon Valley, although those guys at least have a sense of humor, evidenced by their “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It also includes all the top people in the Fed, and the heads of all the major banks, brokers, and insurers. Add the presidents and many professors at top universities, which act as Deep State recruiting centers… all the top media figures, of course… and many regulars at things like Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations. They epitomize the status quo, held together by power, money, and propaganda.

Altogether, I’ll guess these people number a thousand or so. You might analogize the structure of the Deep State with a huge pack of dogs. The people I’ve just described are the top dogs.

But there are hundreds of thousands more who aren’t at the nexus, but who directly depend on them, have considerable clout, and support the Deep State because it supports them. This includes many of the wealthy, especially those who got that way thanks to their State connections… the 1.5 million people who have top secret clearances (that’s a shocking, but accurate, number)… plus top players in organized crime, especially the illegal drug business, little of which would exist without the State. Plus mid-level types in the police and military, corporations, and non-governmental organizations.

These are what you might call the running dogs.

https://www.caseyresearch.com/artic...state-is-the-source-of-our-economic-problems/

Yep the deep state and Soros took over the Senate Seat in Alabama with false charges against Judge Moore with false statements, after he lost the election he sued the people who spread the lies and won. I was found they got the money from a Rich guy from Calif and Soros Foundation. So we got a Democrat who has the seat. I have been follow how he votes and he is laying low and voting with a Republicans Yea on most Judges, he know any Progressive moves will be held against him.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Nadler is holding William Barr in Contempt for refusing to break the law and declassify information that is against the law to divulge. And people are letting him get away with it. the DNC marionettes in the FBI are their best weaponized destroyers of the Trump administration.

FYI- that IS NOT why Barr is being held in contempt of congress

On Wednesday afternoon, the Oversight Committee passed a contempt resolution on a 24-15 vote for both Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, specifically because the Trump administration is not complying with the committee’s subpoena request for information on why they added a US citizenship question to the 2020 census. Republican Rep. Justin Amash (MI), a vocal supporter of impeaching President Trump, voted with Democrats.

As Vox’s Dara Lind explained, the decision to add the citizenship question was a controversial move, and one that the US Supreme Court is set to issue a ruling on this term. A group of states sued the administration over concern that the question could scare off immigrants from filling out the census questionnaire, and thus throw off the population data that’s used to draw House districts for the next 10 years.

There’s also evidence that Republicans may have been trying to give themselves an electoral advantage through this move; unearthed court files showing that late Republican redistricting strategist Thomas Hofeller “played a significant role in orchestrating the addition of the citizenship question to the 2020 Decennial Census to create a structural electoral advantage for, in his own words, ‘Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites.’”

While these states and the Trump administration await the Supreme Court ruling, Oversight Committee Chair Elijah Cummings (D-MD) and his committee members have been trying to learn more about why the citizenship question was added at all, seeking documents and witnesses from the administration to get answers.

Of course, they haven’t been successful — the Trump administration has refused to comply with the committee’s requests, as it has with all other congressional subpoenas. On Wednesday, the administration asserted sweeping executive privilege to block the committee’s access to documents related to the census.

That brings us to today’s committee vote, when Cummings will use the power the full House gave him Wednesday to hold Barr and Ross in contempt of Congress and pursue legal action of his own.

“It does not matter what the topic is — the tactics are the same,” Cummings said in recent remarks. “And this begs the question — what are they hiding?”

The census investigation speaks to a larger pattern of obstruction by the Trump administration


read the rest HERE: House committee votes that attorney general and commerce secretary be held in contempt of Congress

The Progressives don't want to question asked, so they can claim many more people legal or not in their state so that they can gain more power in the Congress.....The Republican want only legal citizens be counted in the states to have only Americans be counted so that a fair seats in congress will have the power.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I find it rather instructive that many on the Left dispute that it even exists. They think this way because the DNCMSM has told them it doesn’t exist, which is most convenient for their cause. Adherents of the MSM apparently can’t see the transparent effort to deceive them. It is not only instructive of the success of the DNCMSM to deceive some Americans for the benefit of their bosses, it is also rather amusing that some Americans can’t see the elephant in the room. They must be blind on purpose.

Doug Casey spells it out...please read the entire column.

Doug Casey: The Deep State Is the Source of Our Economic Problems

Who Is Part of the Deep State?

The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

The Deep State has a life of its own, like the government itself. It’s composed of top-echelon employees of a dozen Praetorian agencies, like the FBI, CIA, and NSA… top generals, admirals, and other military operatives… long-term congressmen and senators… and directors of important regulatory agencies.

But the Deep State is much broader than just the government. It includes the heads of major corporations, all of whom are heavily involved in selling to the State and enabling it. That absolutely includes Silicon Valley, although those guys at least have a sense of humor, evidenced by their “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It also includes all the top people in the Fed, and the heads of all the major banks, brokers, and insurers. Add the presidents and many professors at top universities, which act as Deep State recruiting centers… all the top media figures, of course… and many regulars at things like Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations. They epitomize the status quo, held together by power, money, and propaganda.

Altogether, I’ll guess these people number a thousand or so. You might analogize the structure of the Deep State with a huge pack of dogs. The people I’ve just described are the top dogs.

But there are hundreds of thousands more who aren’t at the nexus, but who directly depend on them, have considerable clout, and support the Deep State because it supports them. This includes many of the wealthy, especially those who got that way thanks to their State connections… the 1.5 million people who have top secret clearances (that’s a shocking, but accurate, number)… plus top players in organized crime, especially the illegal drug business, little of which would exist without the State. Plus mid-level types in the police and military, corporations, and non-governmental organizations.

These are what you might call the running dogs.

https://www.caseyresearch.com/artic...state-is-the-source-of-our-economic-problems/

A fairy tale along the same lines as Santa and the tooth fairy.


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[rightwinger]

If the Deep State and NWO had a fight
Who would win?

 

[captkaos]

Casey just keeps exposing it...outstanding column.

The Deep State is an extremely powerful network that controls nearly everything around you. You won’t read about it in the news because it controls the news. Politicians won’t talk about it publicly. That would be like a mobster discussing murder and robbery on the 6 o’clock news. You could say the Deep State is hidden, but it’s only hidden in plain sight.

The Deep State is the source of every negative thing that’s happening right now. To survive the coming rough times, it’s essential for you to know what it’s all about.

On one hand you claim the Deep State is an extremely powerful network and yet, Doug Casey claims ......The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

So what is it?

A bunch of people operating with their own goals or a powerful network with leadership, an objective and command structure?

I look at Deep State as just a rehash of the NWO paranoia for conspiracy theorists?

Why is it people in Govt who commit crimes, are always shielded from jail time. Everyday people who refuse to surrender, or destroy evidence, lie to investigators and conspire with others to obstruct justice go to jail. why is Mrs. Clinton not in jail?

 

[Third Party]

I find it rather instructive that many on the Left dispute that it even exists. They think this way because the DNCMSM has told them it doesn’t exist, which is most convenient for their cause. Adherents of the MSM apparently can’t see the transparent effort to deceive them. It is not only instructive of the success of the DNCMSM to deceive some Americans for the benefit of their bosses, it is also rather amusing that some Americans can’t see the elephant in the room. They must be blind on purpose.

Doug Casey spells it out...please read the entire column.

Doug Casey: The Deep State Is the Source of Our Economic Problems

Who Is Part of the Deep State?

The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

The Deep State has a life of its own, like the government itself. It’s composed of top-echelon employees of a dozen Praetorian agencies, like the FBI, CIA, and NSA… top generals, admirals, and other military operatives… long-term congressmen and senators… and directors of important regulatory agencies.

But the Deep State is much broader than just the government. It includes the heads of major corporations, all of whom are heavily involved in selling to the State and enabling it. That absolutely includes Silicon Valley, although those guys at least have a sense of humor, evidenced by their “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It also includes all the top people in the Fed, and the heads of all the major banks, brokers, and insurers. Add the presidents and many professors at top universities, which act as Deep State recruiting centers… all the top media figures, of course… and many regulars at things like Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations. They epitomize the status quo, held together by power, money, and propaganda.

Altogether, I’ll guess these people number a thousand or so. You might analogize the structure of the Deep State with a huge pack of dogs. The people I’ve just described are the top dogs.

But there are hundreds of thousands more who aren’t at the nexus, but who directly depend on them, have considerable clout, and support the Deep State because it supports them. This includes many of the wealthy, especially those who got that way thanks to their State connections… the 1.5 million people who have top secret clearances (that’s a shocking, but accurate, number)… plus top players in organized crime, especially the illegal drug business, little of which would exist without the State. Plus mid-level types in the police and military, corporations, and non-governmental organizations.

These are what you might call the running dogs.

https://www.caseyresearch.com/artic...state-is-the-source-of-our-economic-problems/

In words I am familiar with, the Military Industrial Complex?

 

[rightwinger]

Casey just keeps exposing it...outstanding column.

The Deep State is an extremely powerful network that controls nearly everything around you. You won’t read about it in the news because it controls the news. Politicians won’t talk about it publicly. That would be like a mobster discussing murder and robbery on the 6 o’clock news. You could say the Deep State is hidden, but it’s only hidden in plain sight.

The Deep State is the source of every negative thing that’s happening right now. To survive the coming rough times, it’s essential for you to know what it’s all about.

On one hand you claim the Deep State is an extremely powerful network and yet, Doug Casey claims ......The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

So what is it?

A bunch of people operating with their own goals or a powerful network with leadership, an objective and command structure?

I look at Deep State as just a rehash of the NWO paranoia for conspiracy theorists?

Why is it people in Govt who commit crimes, are always shielded from jail time. Everyday people who refuse to surrender, or destroy evidence, lie to investigators and conspire with others to obstruct justice go to jail. why is Mrs. Clinton not in jail?

Who in Government has committed a crime and not been punished?

 

[captkaos]

Casey just keeps exposing it...outstanding column.

The Deep State is an extremely powerful network that controls nearly everything around you. You won’t read about it in the news because it controls the news. Politicians won’t talk about it publicly. That would be like a mobster discussing murder and robbery on the 6 o’clock news. You could say the Deep State is hidden, but it’s only hidden in plain sight.

The Deep State is the source of every negative thing that’s happening right now. To survive the coming rough times, it’s essential for you to know what it’s all about.

On one hand you claim the Deep State is an extremely powerful network and yet, Doug Casey claims ......The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

So what is it?

A bunch of people operating with their own goals or a powerful network with leadership, an objective and command structure?

I look at Deep State as just a rehash of the NWO paranoia for conspiracy theorists?

Why is it people in Govt who commit crimes, are always shielded from jail time. Everyday people who refuse to surrender, or destroy evidence, lie to investigators and conspire with others to obstruct justice go to jail. why is Mrs. Clinton not in jail?

Who in Government has committed a crime and not been punished?

You're right actually we'll consider Hillary's crushing defeat her punishment knowing she'll never hold public office again is good enough. Hillary is now forgotten thank you!