CDZ What "is" the current legal definition for a "person?"

[Chuz Life]

natural person has flesh and blood, legal person is an artificial enitity
whats this about? lol

That's a good observation but what made you think anyone was making a comparison between the two?

 

[sakinago]

As for person, it is legally defined.

That's right!

Now, please post the legal definition along with a link to the source.

I want them to find it.

 

[Chuz Life]

As for person, it is legally defined.

That's right!

Now, please post the legal definition along with a link to the source.

I want them to find it.

Them who?

I am asking for anyone on either side of the issue to quote the legal definition for what a natural person is.

College sociologist should study this thread to try to understand why so many readers on BOTH sides of the issue are having such a hard time with this.

 

[sakinago]

As for person, it is legally defined.

That's right!

Now, please post the legal definition along with a link to the source.

I want them to find it.

Them who?

I am asking for anyone on either side of the issue to quote the legal definition for what a natural person is.

College sociologist should study this thread to try to understand why so many readers on BOTH sides of the issue are having such a hard time with this.

Legal definition of person
Legal Definition of person. 1:natural person. 2: the body of a human being; also: the body and clothing of a human being. 3: one (as a human being or corporation) that is recognized by law as the subject of rights and duties-see also juridical person, legal person, personality.

 

[Chuz Life]

As for person, it is legally defined.

That's right!

Now, please post the legal definition along with a link to the source.

I want them to find it.

Them who?

I am asking for anyone on either side of the issue to quote the legal definition for what a natural person is.

College sociologist should study this thread to try to understand why so many readers on BOTH sides of the issue are having such a hard time with this.

Legal definition of person
Legal Definition of person. 1:natural person. 2: the body of a human being; also: the body and clothing of a human being. 3: one (as a human being or corporation) that is recognized by law as the subject of rights and duties-see also juridical person, legal person, personality.

THANK YOU!

At this point, after seeing the resistance so far, it's clear no-one is really interested in discussing the relevance of that definition in an objective, straight forward manner.

We will see.

 

[Chuz Life]

So a "natural person" is simply "a human being."

Still looking for common ground here, so can we all agree that, according to legal definitions a "natural person" is simply "a human being?"

yes or no?

 

[Chuz Life]

So a "natural person" is simply "a human being."

Still looking for common ground here, so can we all agree that, according to legal definitions a "natural person" is simply "a human being?"

yes or no?

Anybody?

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, I lost interest in this thread when you started insisting that people provide you with a definition, and when they did, you said it wasn't good enough and didn't meet your requirements.

If you don't want a discussion, then why open a thread?

 

[Chuz Life]

You know, I lost interest in this thread when you started insisting that people provide you with a definition, and when they did, you said it wasn't good enough and didn't meet your requirements.

If you don't want a discussion, then why open a thread?

Opinions are not common ground.

Legal definitions ARE common ground.

Did you provide a LEGAL definition or a personal opinion?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Like I said, I've lost interest.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I think that others have as well, because of your insistence on certain terms.

 

[Chuz Life]

I think that others have as well, because of your insistence on certain terms.

Anyone who is genuinely interested in an objective discussion of the common ground between the two major sides of the abortion issue would have to agree that the reality of biological facts, the existing legal definitions and the language of the Constitution itself is just a few of the things we all have in common.

Do you disagree?

 

[ABikerSailor]

/unsubscribe

 

[sakinago]

So a "natural person" is simply "a human being."

Still looking for common ground here, so can we all agree that, according to legal definitions a "natural person" is simply "a human being?"

yes or no?

According to the legal definition, yes.

 

[sakinago]

I think that others have as well, because of your insistence on certain terms.

Anyone who is genuinely interested in an objective discussion of the common ground between the two major sides of the abortion issue would have to agree that the reality of biological facts, the existing legal definitions and the language of the Constitution itself is just a few of the things we all have in common.

Do you disagree?

And they ran away, look at that. Haha.

 

[Chuz Life]

I think that others have as well, because of your insistence on certain terms.

Anyone who is genuinely interested in an objective discussion of the common ground between the two major sides of the abortion issue would have to agree that the reality of biological facts, the existing legal definitions and the language of the Constitution itself is just a few of the things we all have in common.

Do you disagree?

And they ran away, look at that. Haha.

No doubt they are burning those online legal dictionaries up. . Trying to find any kind of an alternative definition to rival the one you posted.

Is there not one who has the courage if their convictions to say "yes that is the legal definition for what a natural person is?" So we can discuss it further from that single starting point?

 

[Chuz Life]

I think that others have as well, because of your insistence on certain terms.

Anyone who is genuinely interested in an objective discussion of the common ground between the two major sides of the abortion issue would have to agree that the reality of biological facts, the existing legal definitions and the language of the Constitution itself is just a few of the things we all have in common.

Do you disagree?

And they ran away, look at that. Haha.

No doubt they are burning those online legal dictionaries up. . Trying to find any kind of an alternative definition to rival the one you posted.

Is there not one who has the courage of their convictions to say "yes that is the legal definition for what a natural person is?" So we can discuss it further from that single starting point?

Man, I hate this phone

 

[Care4all]

legally, a ''person'' is someone who is born human...I believe?

 

[sakinago]

legally, a ''person'' is someone who is born human...I believe?

It's simply human being

 

[Care4all]

legally, a ''person'' is someone who is born human...I believe?

It's simply human being

I believe legally, a natural person is a breathing human being.



1 U.S. Code § 8 - “Person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” as including born-alive infant
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

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(a)
In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
(b)
As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
(c)
Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being “born alive” as defined in this section.
(Added Pub. L. 107–207, § 2(a), Aug. 5, 2002, 116 Stat. 926.)