Zone1 What is Roman Catholicism ??

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The Catholic Church only changes when the evidence against their bible is overwhelming to the extent that they start losing paying customers.

More feelings? Or do you have some evidence this time?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

More feelings? Or do you have some evidence this time?

Do you not know any of this? I get tired of educating you sometimes. It is not my feeling that Catholic leaders knew they were wrong for centuries but maintained their interpretation of scripture was right...........until members started leaving in droves.

Report: Church Membership Among Catholics Declined Nearly 20% Since 2000

The report, based off a Gallup poll of more than 6,100 U.S. adults from 2018-2020, was published on Monday.

www.ncregister.com

the Catholic Church has seen a decline in membership over the past few decades. In the U.S., the percentage of Catholics who identify as members of a church has dropped by nearly 20% since 2000. A Gallup poll found that only 58% of Catholics said they were members of a church, compared to 76% in 1998-2000

Many People Who Left The Church Are NOT Coming Back.

Despite some claims that the decline in church attendance is slowing, the demographic challenges suggest that the decline is inevitable.

www.patheos.com

The Catholic Church has historically been slow to change its core doctrines, but it has adapted in certain ways in response to societal shifts and declining membership. While the Church has not abandoned its fundamental beliefs, it has adjusted its approach to some issues to remain relevant in a changing world.

For example, Pope Francis has emphasized a more inclusive and compassionate stance on topics like LGBTQ+ rights, divorce, and interfaith dialogue, though official doctrine remains largely unchanged. The Church has also sought to engage younger generations by modernizing its communication methods and addressing contemporary social issues.

 

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Do you not know any of this? I get tired of educating you sometimes. It is not my feeling that Catholic leaders knew they were wrong for centuries but maintained their interpretation of scripture was right...........until members started leaving in droves.

Report: Church Membership Among Catholics Declined Nearly 20% Since 2000

The report, based off a Gallup poll of more than 6,100 U.S. adults from 2018-2020, was published on Monday.

www.ncregister.com

the Catholic Church has seen a decline in membership over the past few decades. In the U.S., the percentage of Catholics who identify as members of a church has dropped by nearly 20% since 2000. A Gallup poll found that only 58% of Catholics said they were members of a church, compared to 76% in 1998-2000

Many People Who Left The Church Are NOT Coming Back.

Despite some claims that the decline in church attendance is slowing, the demographic challenges suggest that the decline is inevitable.

www.patheos.com

The Catholic Church has historically been slow to change its core doctrines, but it has adapted in certain ways in response to societal shifts and declining membership. While the Church has not abandoned its fundamental beliefs, it has adjusted its approach to some issues to remain relevant in a changing world.

For example, Pope Francis has emphasized a more inclusive and compassionate stance on topics like LGBTQ+ rights, divorce, and interfaith dialogue, though official doctrine remains largely unchanged. The Church has also sought to engage younger generations by modernizing its communication methods and addressing contemporary social issues.

What is it that you believe this proves? Because the teachings of the Church are founded upon the traditions and beliefs of the first Christians. So maybe start there.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

What is it that you believe this proves? Because the teachings of the Church are founded upon the traditions and beliefs of the first Christians. So maybe start there.

You mean the beliefs they changed because they are losing patrons?

 

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You mean the beliefs they changed because they are losing patrons?

Using a shotgun approach, are you?

Why do you care what the Church does? It doesn't affect you in the slightest.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Using a shotgun approach, are you?

Why do you care what the Church does? It doesn't affect you in the slightest.

Their beliefs are for the clinically insane.

 

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Their beliefs are for the clinically insane.

I wouldn't have expected you to see it any other way.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I wouldn't have expected you to see it any other way.

If someone didn't put faith and religion into such outlandish and warped beliefs they would be committed.

 

[ding]

If someone didn't put faith and religion into such outlandish and warped beliefs they would be committed.

That's nice.

 

[zaangalewa]

The Catholic Church only changes when the evidence against their bible is overwhelming to the extent that they start losing paying customers.

You are one of very few who are far beyond my ability to help.

What a luck.

 

[Cougarbear]

Actually, I'm just reading what was written. And apparently, you can't show me where it was written that all apostles were given the keys to the kingdom.

I have. You just don't want to acknowledge it. And, you continue to avoid the real subjects and reason that the RCC has always been the apostate Church. Replacing Father in Heaven with the Pope. Replacing authority of apostles and prophets with the Pope, Cardinals, Arch Bishops... Replacing the Melchizedek and Aaronic Priesthoods and their authority and keys with Jesuits, Franciscans...

 

[Cougarbear]

But I can quite easily see with my eyes that what you claim was written was never written. It's you who has the bias because you can't admit what you claim was written was never written.

Keep ignoring the facts and truth. Apostles must have keys in order to be the foundation of the Lord's true Church. RCC and Protestant churches fail. So does the JW's and many others.

 

[Cougarbear]

You said no one should call the own father father because god said only to call god father. But you do so. You call your father father as anyone else in the world also is doing. So could it be something could be wrong with your interpretation?



I am a Catholic. And I do not even look panicky to Catholics ... "childish" is another theme.



Okay. Help yourselve. Don't become a catholic. Keep to be a hypocrite and we will forgive you. Or better not to forgive you? I guess we will think about - or not. In 100, 200 or 1000 years I will tell you what we decided to do. I guess we will forgvie you. Or not? .. hmhmhmhmhm ... difficult question ... perhaps I should ask our Holy Father what he thinks about to be called Holy Father?

By the way: Last time we asked him he changed the Holy Sea into the Holy See - because he got wet feet in the Holy Sea.

It's hilarious how people try to bob and weave when caught in a lie. The RCC put the Pope above Heavenly Father, or at least at the same level by calling their spiritual leader and leaders (Fathers in Parishes). Then, trying to deflect this, they interject, "but, but your earthly dad you call father" thinking that is somehow an equivalent reason. When I call my earthly dad, "father" it's because he is the patriarch of my family. When the RCC calls the Pope, "Holy Father," It's to put him above God or the patriarch of what is supposed to be the LORD's CHURCH! Can't do that! It should be obvious and so should the differences. Nice try though. Failed.

 

[Cougarbear]

Sure, God. ... ¿How are you able to take yourselve serios? When did you stop to learn?

I take God seriously and he's testified to me that what I am sharing here is all truth. Let this truth of God's set you free!

 

[zaangalewa]

It's hilarious how people try to bob and weave when caught in a lie. The RCC put the Pope above Heavenly Father, ...

Whatelse do you expect? He's an US-American now.

 

[zaangalewa]

It's hilarious how people try to bob and weave when caught in a lie. The RCC put the Pope above Heavenly Father, or at least at the same level by calling their spiritual leader and leaders (Fathers in Parishes). Then, trying to deflect this, they interject, "but, but your earthly dad you call father" thinking that is somehow an equivalent reason. When I call my earthly dad, "father" it's because he is the patriarch of my family. When the RCC calls the Pope, "Holy Father," It's to put him above God or the patriarch of what is supposed to be the LORD's CHURCH! Can't do that! It should be obvious and so should the differences. Nice try though. Failed.

May I ask what's your religion? Or do you have some kind of spiritual autoimmune disease that is trying to attack and destroy your own spiritual body? Do you really not notice the contradiction in your own statements? You're just saying that you call your own father ‘dad’ (=father). And you are convinced the same time god forbids to do so. That's absurd without any need to have to be absurd. Before to think that billions of other people of all religions in the world could be idiots - would it not be more wise to try to speculate that the own narrow spiritual wings could be developed further?

Keeps the question: Do I have really say this to you? You are the "professional". I'm just a stupid Catholic layman who thinks his own way and doesn't claim to be right - even when I firmly say what I think. But I can't deviate from the idea that God is reasonable - even more: that God is reason itself. Otherwise you're just replacing arbitrariness with arbitrariness. You don't recognise the truth - which, by the way, can be expressed by anyone of any worldview and religion - but you spit in its face. Truth is always true - independent from the person who speaks out what's true. The Holy Spirit blows where He wills.



Jesus bleibet meine Freude,
Jesus remains my joy,
Meines Herzens Trost und Saft,
The consolation and sap/blood of my heart;
Jesus wehret allem Leide,
Jesus bars all sorrow;
Er ist meines Lebens Kraft,
He is the [protecting] power of my life,
Meiner Augen Lust und Sonne,
The desire and sun of my eyes,
Meiner Seele Schatz und Wonne;
The treasure and bliss of my soul;
Darum lass ich Jesum nicht
Thus I will not let Jesus
Aus dem Herzen und Gesicht.
Out of heart and sight.

 

[zaangalewa]

I take God seriously and he's testified to me that what I am sharing here is all truth. Let this truth of God's set you free!

Go to a doctor. Or to Jesus? Heard "der Heiland" has no sick message but a healing message.

 

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I have. You just don't want to acknowledge it. And, you continue to avoid the real subjects and reason that the RCC has always been the apostate Church. Replacing Father in Heaven with the Pope. Replacing authority of apostles and prophets with the Pope, Cardinals, Arch Bishops... Replacing the Melchizedek and Aaronic Priesthoods and their authority and keys with Jesuits, Franciscans...

You haven't.

 

[ding]

Keep ignoring the facts and truth. Apostles must have keys in order to be the foundation of the Lord's true Church. RCC and Protestant churches fail. So does the JW's and many others.

I follow the guidance of the Holy Spirit. You should too.

 

[Cougarbear]

May I ask what's your religion? Or do you have some kind of spiritual autoimmune disease that is trying to attack and destroy your own spiritual body? Do you really not notice the contradiction in your own statements? You're just saying that you call your own father ‘dad’ (=father). And you are convinced the same time god forbids to do so. That's absurd without any need to have to be absurd. Before to think that billions of other people of all religions in the world could be idiots - would it not be more wise to try to speculate that the own narrow spiritual wings could be developed further?

Keeps the question: Do I have really say this to you? You are the "professional". I'm just a stupid Catholic layman who thinks his own way and doesn't claim to be right - even when I firmly say what I think. But I can't deviate from the idea that God is reasonable - even more: that God is reason itself. Otherwise you're just replacing arbitrariness with arbitrariness. You don't recognise the truth - which, by the way, can be expressed by anyone of any worldview and religion - but you spit in its face. Truth is always true - independent from the person who speaks out what's true. The Holy Spirit blows where He wills.



Jesus bleibet meine Freude,
Jesus remains my joy,
Meines Herzens Trost und Saft,
The consolation and sap/blood of my heart;
Jesus wehret allem Leide,
Jesus bars all sorrow;
Er ist meines Lebens Kraft,
He is the [protecting] power of my life,
Meiner Augen Lust und Sonne,
The desire and sun of my eyes,
Meiner Seele Schatz und Wonne;
The treasure and bliss of my soul;
Darum lass ich Jesum nicht
Thus I will not let Jesus
Aus dem Herzen und Gesicht.
Out of heart and sight.

Why do you hang on to stupidity? Calling your earthly father, father is not what Jesus was teaching. Stop equating what Jesus was teaching with your foolish attempt to justify calling a man leading people in the Gospel Holy Father. If you are unable to understand this, you have a serious problem.

I am a member of Jesus Christ’s church that Jesus has called apostles and prophets with his actual Melchizedek priesthood. Therefore, is founded and works with the authority of Christ with apostles and prophets. Exactly what he did 2000 years ago. The only difference is these are the Latter Days. As the Bible says, this is the restitution of all things time necessary because the former church apostatized. The evidence is no foundation authority of apostles and prophets with the RCC.

The heavens again are open and the Godhead is active again teaching and performing the saving ordinances for salvation and exaltation with apostles and prophets authority of Jesus Christ. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only church with authority to administer all these ordinances of salvation and exaltation. Heck, the RCC also broke another commandment to do “ALL” things in the name of Jesus Christ. Your Popes can’t even name the church in his name. Another sign of apostasy.