What is it Exactly that so Infuriates the Left about Trump?

[forkup]

Hey, you can change your ways of viewing the world, but that change 1st starts with you.

Ah I see, if I just agree with Trump and people like you there wouldn't be a problem. You are of course right. But then again, if I need to adjust what I believe simply to be able to travel I would argue the place I'm traveling to is not a free country.

 

[beagle9]

You disagreeing with my posts don't make them weak. As far as I'm concerned, I source better, am not evasive, and when I say to someone else they have weak arguments I also have the courtesy and/or ability to point out those weaknesses.

They are weak when you use leftist rhetoric on a poster because you don't like what they are saying.

 

[beagle9]

Ah I see, if I just agree with Trump and people like you there wouldn't be a problem. You are of course right. But then again, if I need to adjust what I believe simply to be able to travel I would argue the place I'm traveling to is not a free country.

Then don't travel to a place you don't like, because you sure as heck ain't going to change it.. Simple !!

 

[forkup]

If you are here from a foreign country, then why would you involve yourself in US politics on a message board in a negative way, otherwise if you are here legally and respectfully ?

First of all. I'm posting on a message board. I'm completely free to do so.
Second of all. Criticizing the politics of other countries happens ALL the time by everybody, this includes you I'm pretty sure.
Third. My wife is American and my daughter has dual nationality. What happens in the US does affect them and our family.
Fourth. Opposition to a political party is NOT negative. In fact, I would argue it's the basis for a functioning Democracy.

 

[forkup]

They are weak when you use leftist rhetoric on a poster because you don't like what they are saying.

Sure let's keep it vague, I'm sure I won't notice you still haven't actually said what makes them weak. "leftist rhetoric" is not an answer.

 

[beagle9]

First of all. I'm posting on a message board. I'm completely free to do so.
Second of all. Criticizing the politics of other countries happens ALL the time by everybody, this includes you I'm pretty sure.
Third. My wife is American and my daughter has dual nationality. What happens in the US does affect them and our family.
Fourth. Opposition to a political party is NOT negative. In fact, I would argue it's the basis for a functioning Democracy.

You sound like a family man, but you are a leftist ?? How do those two things go together ?

 

[beagle9]

Sure let's keep it vague, I'm sure I won't notice you still haven't actually said what makes them weak. "leftist rhetoric" is not an answer.

Just a non-productive back and forth now... Go find something else to do besides wasting someone else's time.

 

[forkup]

Just a non-productive back and forth now... Go find something else to do besides wasting someone else's time.

You are right it's not productive (not that conversations are usually productive here). The reason for it is that I call out every evasion and attempt to bait me, like for instance here.

You sound like a family man, but you are a leftist ?? How do those two things go together ?

That's why your arguments are weak. Simply because you need these kinds of rhetorical tricks.

See how easy it is to tell a person why an argument is weak.

 

[Care4all]

Every last protester targeting ICE facilities. Antifa, the Socialist Rifle Association, Armed Queers and Tyler Robinson and I can go on. Chuck Schumer said Kavanaugh would pay the price for the overturn of Roe v. Wade and then there was an assassination attempt. Two democraps tried to assassinate Trump. But you aren't listening are you? You're already starting your denial, deflection, and denigration engine to make a canned response. Let me guess, the democrap party is all about love and forgiveness, right? Get lost.

Agree Schumer comments were wrong, but Schumer's comments took place in March of 2020 when the SC was hearing cases in Louisiana, Mississippi and a few other states that would set the stage for the conservative justices to take away a right women had for over 50 years.

Schumer went out and apologized almost immediately afterwards, but I think there was a rebuke by the chief justice that was made before he repented....so that could have awakened his remorse.

NOTE!!!
The Kavanaugh assassin incident was over 2 years after the Schumer comment and apology.

But know, the Kavanaugh assassin, turned himself in...called the cops in on himself which does indicate he was mentally unstable and knew it, thank the dear Lord!

There was no Democrats that tried to kill Trump. Neither were Party members....or active in party politics, especially the Butler assassin Crooks...and this assassin on Charlie had no party connections...he had personal connections to what Charlie preached about his life style, which were similar to what his dad preached...

There still has been given no reason as to what would make this Tyler guy think that resorting to murder, would actually help.... Too many unanswered questions still....imo.

 

[beagle9]

Agree Schumer comments were wrong, but Schumer's comments took place in March of 2020 when the SC was hearing cases in Louisiana, Mississippi and a few other states that would set the stage for the conservative justices to take away a right women had for over 50 years.

Schumer went out and apologized almost immediately afterwards, but I think there was a rebuke by the chief justice that was made before he repented....so that could have awakened his remorse.

NOTE!!!
The Kavanaugh assassin incident was over 2 years after the Schumer comment and apology.

But know, the Kavanaugh assassin, turned himself in...called the cops in on himself which does indicate he was mentally unstable and knew it, thank the dear Lord!

There was no Democrats that tried to kill Trump. Neither were Party members....or active in party politics, especially the Butler assassin Crooks...and this assassin on Charlie had no party connections...he had personal connections to what Charlie preached about his life style, which were similar to what his dad preached...

There still has been given no reason as to what would make this Tyler guy think that resorting to murder, would actually help.... Too many unanswered questions still....imo.

Unanswered questions because the FBI holds evidence back of the trends and patterns that led or will again lead to the incidents, assasinations or assassination attempts. Manifest are almost present with these types of people, but the FBI for some reason is being told to not release any information that shows a pattern developed or a trend started because of PC bull chit. In the mean time death continues to lurk at every turn for the good citizen's that are trying to get to the bottom of it all.

Oh, and time doesn't have anything to do with one's threats nor with the time period in which to carry out those threats. In fact the disassociation by way of time is a tactical plan used by those who wait for a time that they feel is right, but is seperated by time for disassociation purposes.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Agree Schumer comments were wrong, but Schumer's comments took place in March of 2020 when the SC was hearing cases in Louisiana, Mississippi and a few other states that would set the stage for the conservative justices to take away a right women had for over 50 years.

Schumer went out and apologized almost immediately afterwards, but I think there was a rebuke by the chief justice that was made before he repented....so that could have awakened his remorse.

NOTE!!!
The Kavanaugh assassin incident was over 2 years after the Schumer comment and apology.

But know, the Kavanaugh assassin, turned himself in...called the cops in on himself which does indicate he was mentally unstable and knew it, thank the dear Lord!

There was no Democrats that tried to kill Trump. Neither were Party members....or active in party politics, especially the Butler assassin Crooks...and this assassin on Charlie had no party connections...he had personal connections to what Charlie preached about his life style, which were similar to what his dad preached...

There still has been given no reason as to what would make this Tyler guy think that resorting to murder, would actually help.... Too many unanswered questions still....imo.

So what exactly is driving all this hate toward Trump, MAGA, and Christians? Right wing rhetoric? Why are people going crazy protesting ICE? You don't think that is politically motivated? Why are people attacking churches? You don't think that is political? Charlie Kirks murder wasn't a political statement? These are just apolitical people going about their day, or are they consumed with hateful leftwing rhetoric that demonizes everyone who isn't a devout leftist as a racist and a fascist?

 

[BluesLegend]

Utter bullshit.

It's documented FACT, backed up by actual crime data. Now crawl back into your Dem troll hole and stop lying Dem drone.

 

[toobfreak]

Really? Not what they said in court.

Really? That is exactly what happened.

1. New York picked a crime with no victim.
2. A crime no one had ever been charged with before.
3. The bank was more than happy to testify all was great with them and another expert in the matter but the judge wouldn't allow it.
4. Then they told the jury to make up whatever reason they could think to vote guilty, even if the jurists didn't agree.

 

[Care4all]

Unanswered questions because the FBI holds evidence back of the trends and patterns that led or will again lead to the incidents, assasinations or assassination attempts. Manifest are almost present with these types of people, but the FBI for some reason is being told to not release any information that shows a pattern developed or a trend started because of PC bull chit. In the mean time death continues to lurk at every turn for the good citizen's that are trying to get to the bottom of it all.

Oh, and time doesn't have anything to do with one's threats nor with the time period in which to carry out those threats. In fact the disassociation by way of time is a tactical plan used by those who wait for a time that they feel is right, but is seperated by time for disassociation purposes.

But this is Trump's FBI now with Patel running the show? Why?

 

[Care4all]

So what exactly is driving all this hate toward Trump, MAGA, and Christians? Right wing rhetoric? Why are people going crazy protesting ICE? You don't think that is politically motivated? Why are people attacking churches? You don't think that is political? Charlie Kirks murder wasn't a political statement? These are just apolitical people going about their day, or are they consumed with hateful leftwing rhetoric that demonizes everyone who isn't a devout leftist as a racist and a fascist?

Trump hates us, and shows it with every breath, word and tweet he takes. And it isnt just hatred for his direct enemies, but simply for a party opponent....any and all Democrats That's simply inappropriate for a President, regardless of an every day Joe or Josephine's dislike of him....

I don't know the reason for others, I can only speak for myself on immigration.

People from both sides were fine with him deporting the bad, violent criminal immigrants as he said he would do.

The jack boot, masked, unmarked car method of throwing immigrants to the ground then whisking off the street, immigrants who are not the violent criminals or gang members, without a chance to even say goodbye to their kids or wife and make some needed arrangements for them, is simply too unnecessarily cruel for me to stomach. And it is too Gestapo like or Soviet like, which never in my life did I ever think I'd see my own country, act in this completely, un American fashion....and not just with waxed over cold cruelty, but taking pleasure in it. Or grabbing them at Court trying to follow our rules on seeking asylum.... I ask myself, WWJD?

Obama deported in the same time period as Trump, deported more immigrants, without the reality tv drama with a FOX News camera man following them so they capture the cruelest treatment and get it on the news that night.

Why oh why do you have to do it this way? And why did Trump have to LIE ABOUT IT, to the American people and claim it was only the worst of the worst gang members and criminals he was deporting, when from the get go, it was mostly just law abiding hard working illegals, with families?

 

[MeBelle]

But I'll play along; if you want to know what infuriates me (to a small extent) is the laughably stupid crap that you guys accept. Kristi Noem murders her dog in cold blood. Something that up until the story broke of her murdering her dog...you'd never accept. But since she did it...you climbed right on board with it.

Harken back to the days when considerate people put their work animals out of their misery, humanly, with a well placed bullet to the back of the animal's head. If you don't understand this concept, that's okay - but to hold it against someone is downright silly!

Thousands of flag waving Trump supporters attack 140 cops and try to kill the VP. Your response? Those were FBI agents! or Those were ANTIFA or Those were democrats!!!!

When the heck in reality did this even happen??

 

[MeBelle]

Trump hates us, and shows it with every breath, word and tweet he takes. And it isnt just hatred for his direct enemies, but simply for a party opponent....any and all Democrats That's simply inappropriate for a President, regardless of an every day Joe or Josephine's dislike of him....

I don't know the reason for others, I can only speak for myself on immigration.

People from both sides were fine with him deporting the bad, violent criminal immigrants as he said he would do.

The jack boot, masked, unmarked car method of throwing immigrants to the ground then whisking off the street, immigrants who are not the violent criminals or gang members, without a chance to even say goodbye to their kids or wife and make some needed arrangements for them, is simply too unnecessarily cruel for me to stomach. And it is too Gestapo like or Soviet like, which never in my life did I ever think I'd see my own country, act in this completely, un American fashion....and not just with waxed over cold cruelty, but taking pleasure in it. Or grabbing them at Court trying to follow our rules on seeking asylum.... I ask myself, WWJD?

Obama deported in the same time period as Trump, deported more immigrants, without the reality tv drama with a FOX News camera man following them so they capture the cruelest treatment and get it on the news that night.

Why oh why do you have to do it this way? And why did Trump have to LIE ABOUT IT, to the American people and claim it was only the worst of the worst gang members and criminals he was deporting, when from the get go, it was mostly just law abiding hard working illegals, with families?

WWJD?

Jesus would tell you to follow man's laws.

Start there!

 

[Care4all]

WWJD?

Jesus would tell you to follow man's laws.

Start there!

On the recent entries, the law, our government, let them in to seek asylum in Court....reneging after our country gave them the chance to seek asylum based on certain criteria ...in an Immigration court, and given them court dates for such, should not be deported before their court hearing...if the judge denies them asylum in court, then they should be deported.

Trump should have honored the chance they were given on seeking asylum by the United States when they sought initial refuge...imo.

Trump's E/O changing asylum opportunities should not have been retro active, but should have been for , going forward.

 

[MagicMike]

Is it because he's white, successful, a strong leader and exceptional at trolling snowflakes. We've had conservative presidents before, but I have never seen this amount of vitriolic derangement aimed at a single person in American politics.

So tell us, what pisses you off so. I mean it has to be significant and specific rather than something like he lies and shit all politicians do.

Um, no.
It's because he is an ignorant, incurious, entitled, dishonest, corrupt, felonious, anti-American, grifting, bankrupted, incompetent, wanna- be fascist pig who speaks like a toddler and makes us a continual laughing stock of the entire world.
Anymore stupid questions?

 

[The Irish Ram]

What is it Exactly that so Infuriates the Left about Trump?​

Results.
His policies are working. The slander from the left can't overcome that.