What is it about Socialism that makes you want it here in the United States?

[anotherlife]

The most important aspect of socialism is that it turns neighbor against neighbor. This way it is a direct opposition to God and to anything that God stands for.

The OPPOSITE is true. Should I assume that you are speaking from an American pespective? JUST LOOK AT IT your Capitalist nation. Murder, shooting, riots, war, poverty, unemployment, guns, corruption, homeless, racism, lack of education, pollution. Did I mention murder, murder, murder? And how is all of that murder possible if "neighbour against neighbour" doesn't exist? It is, IN FACT, good neighbourly reality in Socialist countries. My wife is from Czechoslovakia and I have been to every Socialist country (during the cold war) in Europe. I know what I am talking about.

Czechoslovakia? Czechoslovakia deported half of its population right when they started socialism in 1947. In socialism neighbor's are trained to inform on each other too to the government. How is an informant neighborly? These principles are now imported to the west too. Isn't it disgraceful?

Oh, stop pretending to know anything about it..You only believe the hysteria that Joseph McCarthy started and what you read in Dick and Jane books as if time stands still. Jesus Christ, get educated.

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Is this all your argument? Sure you can do better!

I already gave you the most important points but you didn't get it. It would be useless for me to speak to you in algebraic terms if you cannot even add 2 + 2. It is very clear to me that your knowledge on the subject is zero …... and you are fanatically determined to resist improving it.


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Socialism is a big lie. The Bible says, that when you sign up to a lie, then God will put a powerful delusion on you to force you to believe that lie. This applies when the lie is directly to oppose God. Lenin himself confessed on his death bed, that he was the biggest enemy of God.

Every socialism including the current Venezuelan, starts with killing off people who don't accept the lie. In East Europe, this killed off more than half the population.

So, if you think that you have important points to share about socialism, bring it to this forum, and we can uncover each of those lies.

 

[dblack]

Yes. Because, in the US, sitting around waiting for someone to offer you a "job" isn't the only easy to make a living. We can create our own jobs.

But there's he problem - you're not able to do that and your level of poverty proves it.

There are plenty of barriers to working for yourself - most of them imposed by government - but we are, still, able to do that. It happens all the time.

The American double-speak is that only the lazy are unemployed

That's not what I said.

You've got destitution up the Ying Yang in the US, you blame it on the the poverty-stricken & homeless themselves ...

Prove it. Find a single quote where I say anything like that.

The banksters and the socialists (more alike than they are different) each have a vested interest in promoting the idea that working a "job" for an "employer" is the only way to make a living. They both benefit from inculcating a slave mentality in society. They both seek a population that is dependent and obedient.

 

[anotherlife]

Yes. Because, in the US, sitting around waiting for someone to offer you a "job" isn't the only easy to make a living. We can create our own jobs.

But there's he problem - you're not able to do that and your level of poverty proves it. The American double-speak is that only the lazy are unemployed and you fall back on the equally double-speak nonsense of quoting what you just said about "creating your own job". You've got destitution up the Ying Yang in the US, you blame it on the the poverty-stricken & homeless themselves, then you criticize Socialism that all but eliminates poverty. If there's logic in that way of thinking I certainly don't see it. You're just running around in circles.

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Socialism is not an answer to this job problem either. This is because most jobs are done by automation, not people. And the biggest problem is, that socialism uses an exclusive elite circle of select people, who are above everything, above people, above law, above God, and these select people tell everybody what to do. Once you let wiseguys tell you what to do, you can as well just forget all about working, jobs, survival, and so on. At that point, your only option is to beg for God's mercy, before your very own party secretary ships you to the gulag.

 

[GLASNOST]

The OPPOSITE is true. Should I assume that you are speaking from an American pespective? JUST LOOK AT IT your Capitalist nation. Murder, shooting, riots, war, poverty, unemployment, guns, corruption, homeless, racism, lack of education, pollution. Did I mention murder, murder, murder? And how is all of that murder possible if "neighbour against neighbour" doesn't exist? It is, IN FACT, good neighbourly reality in Socialist countries. My wife is from Czechoslovakia and I have been to every Socialist country (during the cold war) in Europe. I know what I am talking about.

Czechoslovakia? Czechoslovakia deported half of its population right when they started socialism in 1947. In socialism neighbor's are trained to inform on each other too to the government. How is an informant neighborly? These principles are now imported to the west too. Isn't it disgraceful?

Oh, stop pretending to know anything about it..You only believe the hysteria that Joseph McCarthy started and what you read in Dick and Jane books as if time stands still. Jesus Christ, get educated.

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Is this all your argument? Sure you can do better!

I already gave you the most important points but you didn't get it. It would be useless for me to speak to you in algebraic terms if you cannot even add 2 + 2. It is very clear to me that your knowledge on the subject is zero …... and you are fanatically determined to resist improving it.


.

Socialism is a big lie. The Bible says, that when you sign up to a lie, then God will put a powerful delusion on you to force you to believe that lie. This applies when the lie is directly to oppose God. Lenin himself confessed on his death bed, that he was the biggest enemy of God.

Every socialism including the current Venezuelan, starts with killing off people who don't accept the lie. In East Europe, this killed off more than half the population.

So, if you think that you have important points to share about socialism, bring it to this forum, and we can uncover each of those lies.

You're using the Bible as your reference for political insight? Yeah, that should work really fine! No wonder logic goes over your head. What's logic when you have superstition to rely on!

Socialism is not an answer to this job problem either. This is because most jobs are done by automation, not people. And the biggest problem is, that socialism uses an exclusive elite circle of select people, who are above everything, above people, above law, above God, and these select people tell everybody what to do. Once you let wiseguys tell you what to do, you can as well just forget all about working, jobs, survival, and so on. At that point, your only option is to beg for God's mercy, before your very own party secretary ships you to the gulag.

Again with the Bible already.

 

[GLASNOST]

That's not what I said.

You implied it, loud and clear.

Prove it. Find a single quote where I say anything like that.

No, you didin't say "grey". You said half way between black and white.

 

[dblack]

That's not what I said.

You implied it, loud and clear.

No, you inferred it because you're more interested in maintaining your stereotypes than real discussion.

Prove it. Find a single quote where I say anything like that.

No, you didin't say "grey". You said half way between black and white.

Bullshit (again, quote it or STFU). I despise the "blame the victim" mindset you accused me of. It's very black and white in my book.

 

[GLASNOST]

That's not what I said.

You implied it, loud and clear.

No, you inferred it because you're more interested in maintaining your stereotypes than real discussion.

Prove it. Find a single quote where I say anything like that.

No, you didin't say "grey". You said half way between black and white.

Bullshit (again, quote it or STFU). I despise the "blame the victim" mindset you accused me of. It's very black and white in my book.

Look, if you don't want to help bring the American people out of their misery that's your business. But it's much more than that because I can see that you are very angry. Is it because I don't share your fear that "The Red Hoard is coming! Run for your lives!" or is it that you believe "I am either with you or against you"?

 

[dblack]

That's not what I said.

You implied it, loud and clear.

No, you inferred it because you're more interested in maintaining your stereotypes than real discussion.

Prove it. Find a single quote where I say anything like that.

No, you didin't say "grey". You said half way between black and white.

Bullshit (again, quote it or STFU). I despise the "blame the victim" mindset you accused me of. It's very black and white in my book.

Look, if you don't want to help bring the American people out of their misery that's your business. But it's much more than that because I can see that you are very angry. Is it because I don't share your fear that "The Red Hoard is coming! Run for your lives!" or is it that you believe "I am either with you or against you"?

Neither. Your presumptions fail you again.

I'm not very angry. But I think merging economic power with state power is a very bad idea - approximately as bad a merging religion and government.

 

[GLASNOST]

That's not what I said.

You implied it, loud and clear.

No, you inferred it because you're more interested in maintaining your stereotypes than real discussion.

Prove it. Find a single quote where I say anything like that.

No, you didin't say "grey". You said half way between black and white.

Bullshit (again, quote it or STFU). I despise the "blame the victim" mindset you accused me of. It's very black and white in my book.

Look, if you don't want to help bring the American people out of their misery that's your business. But it's much more than that because I can see that you are very angry. Is it because I don't share your fear that "The Red Hoard is coming! Run for your lives!" or is it that you believe "I am either with you or against you"?

I'm not very angry. But I think merging economic power with state power is a very bad idea .... .

You are not mature enough to understand any of this. It's not your fault.

 

[ph3iron]

"Have the government to take care of me from cradle to grave"

What is that suppose to mean?

It's referring to the common socialist belief that government should be responsible for providing people with their needs.

It's a bit naïve. It is providing the needs so that one can strive for them. You can't refused social welfare if there aren't enough jobs. Socialism sees to it that there are means of earning an income among many other examples of "providing".

Your push for this is due your upbringing undoubtedly. We don't have nor do we want your way of thinking to engulf this nation.

It didn't work in the Soviet Union or elsewhere, and it won't work here because we don't want it.

But apparently you are in favor of draft dodgers by your pic

 

[ph3iron]

Yes. Because, in the US, sitting around waiting for someone to offer you a "job" isn't the only easy to make a living. We can create our own jobs.

But there's he problem - you're not able to do that and your level of poverty proves it. The American double-speak is that only the lazy are unemployed and you fall back on the equally double-speak nonsense of quoting what you just said about "creating your own job". You've got destitution up the Ying Yang in the US, you blame it on the the poverty-stricken & homeless themselves, then you criticize Socialism that all but eliminates poverty. If there's logic in that way of thinking I certainly don't see it. You're just running around in circles.

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Nice foul mouth

 

[ph3iron]

"Have the government to take care of me from cradle to grave"

What is that suppose to mean?

It's referring to the common socialist belief that government should be responsible for providing people with their needs.

It's a bit naïve. It is providing the needs so that one can strive for them. You can't refused social welfare if there aren't enough jobs. Socialism sees to it that there are means of earning an income among many other examples of "providing".

Your push for this is due your upbringing undoubtedly.

I am 72 years old and I have been to most inhabited places on this earth. My "upbringing" was so long ago that I have to look at old photographs just to remind myself that I ever had one. My view is based upon personal experience of seeing all possibilities and living several of them.

don't have nor do we want your way of thinking to engulf this nation.

I don't care what you do. It's not my business. But if someone asks a question I'll most probably answer it. If you don't like the answer it makes no difference to me.

It didn't work in the Soviet Union ...

What does the USSR have to do with it?

... or elsewhere ...

You don't even know that. In fact, you are wrong.

... and it won't work here because we don't want it.

That's your issue not mine. But it makes me wonder why there is so much debate and discussion on the enormous problems of America's unemployment, violent crime, and uneducated population. I guess you figure that jobs and education "won't work" because you "don't want it"?

Lived in Sweden for any length of time?

 

[anotherlife]

Czechoslovakia? Czechoslovakia deported half of its population right when they started socialism in 1947. In socialism neighbor's are trained to inform on each other too to the government. How is an informant neighborly? These principles are now imported to the west too. Isn't it disgraceful?

Oh, stop pretending to know anything about it..You only believe the hysteria that Joseph McCarthy started and what you read in Dick and Jane books as if time stands still. Jesus Christ, get educated.

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Is this all your argument? Sure you can do better!

I already gave you the most important points but you didn't get it. It would be useless for me to speak to you in algebraic terms if you cannot even add 2 + 2. It is very clear to me that your knowledge on the subject is zero …... and you are fanatically determined to resist improving it.


.

Socialism is a big lie. The Bible says, that when you sign up to a lie, then God will put a powerful delusion on you to force you to believe that lie. This applies when the lie is directly to oppose God. Lenin himself confessed on his death bed, that he was the biggest enemy of God.

Every socialism including the current Venezuelan, starts with killing off people who don't accept the lie. In East Europe, this killed off more than half the population.

So, if you think that you have important points to share about socialism, bring it to this forum, and we can uncover each of those lies.

You're using the Bible as your reference for political insight? Yeah, that should work really fine! No wonder logic goes over your head. What's logic when you have superstition to rely on!

Socialism is not an answer to this job problem either. This is because most jobs are done by automation, not people. And the biggest problem is, that socialism uses an exclusive elite circle of select people, who are above everything, above people, above law, above God, and these select people tell everybody what to do. Once you let wiseguys tell you what to do, you can as well just forget all about working, jobs, survival, and so on. At that point, your only option is to beg for God's mercy, before your very own party secretary ships you to the gulag.

Again with the Bible already.

Why do you want a politician who is an enemy of the Bible? Your religion, the Marxism, with all of its Leninist scriptures, are nothing compared to the knowledge that has been revealed through the Bible and through all the Saints, for the pas 10 thousand years. If Marxism is your belief, then any punk can write any bullshit and you will believe those, right?

 

[GLASNOST]

Lived in Sweden for any length of time?

I don't understand the question. I am Swedish.

 

[GLASNOST]

Why do you want a politician who is an enemy of the Bible? Your religion, the Marxism, with all of its Leninist scriptures, are nothing compared to the knowledge that has been revealed through the Bible and through all the Saints, for the pas 10 thousand years. If Marxism is your belief, then any punk can write any bullshit and you will believe those, right?

I see what you believe in:

 

[anotherlife]

Why do you want a politician who is an enemy of the Bible? Your religion, the Marxism, with all of its Leninist scriptures, are nothing compared to the knowledge that has been revealed through the Bible and through all the Saints, for the pas 10 thousand years. If Marxism is your belief, then any punk can write any bullshit and you will believe those, right?

I see what you believe in:

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She is pretty. Is that what you mean?

 

[Andylusion]

My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires as no results can be achieved.

Do you idiots have any idea who many super wealthy people, started out working for the super wealthy?

Henry Ford, was working for a pittance as a mechanic, working for the super wealthy of his day.

The CEO of walmart started out a hourly wage worker, at a warehouse moving skids of product around.

When you say "My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires" that is exactly why you never did, and never will, become a millionaire.

I remember reading about the CEO who started off running the machines in the factory, and he slept in his car in the parking lot.

I worked for a company, where the CEO owner, had worked for the previous owner of that company for 15 years. When the owner said he was going to close the business, he pulled out a mortgage on his home, and a loan from his extended family, bought the business, built it up, and repaid all the people he owed money too, by working 65 hours a week at the company he owned.

But that was 15 years of working for wealthy people, before he ended up being the wealthy person.

You show me someone who says "I'll never work for a billionaire" and I'll show you someone who will never be a billionaire.

 

[anotherlife]

My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires as no results can be achieved.

Do you idiots have any idea who many super wealthy people, started out working for the super wealthy?

Henry Ford, was working for a pittance as a mechanic, working for the super wealthy of his day.

The CEO of walmart started out a hourly wage worker, at a warehouse moving skids of product around.

When you say "My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires" that is exactly why you never did, and never will, become a millionaire.

I remember reading about the CEO who started off running the machines in the factory, and he slept in his car in the parking lot.

I worked for a company, where the CEO owner, had worked for the previous owner of that company for 15 years. When the owner said he was going to close the business, he pulled out a mortgage on his home, and a loan from his extended family, bought the business, built it up, and repaid all the people he owed money too, by working 65 hours a week at the company he owned.

But that was 15 years of working for wealthy people, before he ended up being the wealthy person.

You show me someone who says "I'll never work for a billionaire" and I'll show you someone who will never be a billionaire.

This level of idiocy is like greed on steroids. Anyways, socialism would never allow this.

 

[Bleipriester]

My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires as no results can be achieved.

Do you idiots have any idea who many super wealthy people, started out working for the super wealthy?

Henry Ford, was working for a pittance as a mechanic, working for the super wealthy of his day.

The CEO of walmart started out a hourly wage worker, at a warehouse moving skids of product around.

When you say "My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires" that is exactly why you never did, and never will, become a millionaire.

I remember reading about the CEO who started off running the machines in the factory, and he slept in his car in the parking lot.

I worked for a company, where the CEO owner, had worked for the previous owner of that company for 15 years. When the owner said he was going to close the business, he pulled out a mortgage on his home, and a loan from his extended family, bought the business, built it up, and repaid all the people he owed money too, by working 65 hours a week at the company he owned.

But that was 15 years of working for wealthy people, before he ended up being the wealthy person.

You show me someone who says "I'll never work for a billionaire" and I'll show you someone who will never be a billionaire.

Why should I give a shit? I can give you many examples of people ending up with a maltreated body, instead.

 

[GLASNOST]

My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires as no results can be achieved.

Do you idiots have any idea who many super wealthy people, started out working for the super wealthy?

Henry Ford, was working for a pittance as a mechanic, working for the super wealthy of his day.

The CEO of walmart started out a hourly wage worker, at a warehouse moving skids of product around.

When you say "My hands are too precious to waste them working for the billionaires" that is exactly why you never did, and never will, become a millionaire.

I remember reading about the CEO who started off running the machines in the factory, and he slept in his car in the parking lot.

I worked for a company, where the CEO owner, had worked for the previous owner of that company for 15 years. When the owner said he was going to close the business, he pulled out a mortgage on his home, and a loan from his extended family, bought the business, built it up, and repaid all the people he owed money too, by working 65 hours a week at the company he owned.

But that was 15 years of working for wealthy people, before he ended up being the wealthy person.

You show me someone who says "I'll never work for a billionaire" and I'll show you someone who will never be a billionaire.

This level of idiocy is like greed on steroids. Anyways, socialism would never allow this.

Why do people like you think Stalinism is the definition of Socialism ... past - present - and future? It never even occurs to you that Socialism has evolved just like any other ..... with the exception of North Korea, of course. Do you still feed on the teat or have you learned to eat solid food? Just asking as you don't seem to understand how things progress.