What is a Patriot?

[OnePercenter]

Except for the fact that healthcare premiums didn't rise during Clinton, you'd be correct.

They will now, because the healthcare insurance lobby wrote the ACA bill.

So you're saying that the healthcare insurance industry wrote a bill that requires their industry to pay more of the premiums they collect to claims? Sure they did.......

 

[Billo_Really]

So you're saying that the healthcare insurance industry wrote a bill that requires their industry to pay more of the premiums they collect to claims? Sure they did.......

They wrote the bill that expunged the "public option" and put in a mandate to add 30,000,000 more customers to get healthcare insurance.

 

[OnePercenter]

That is why it doesn't matter which side is in office, it's always business as usual.

Except for the fact that healthcare premiums didn't rise during Clinton, you'd be correct.

What are you talking about?

I paid the same rate for all eight years of Clinton.

 

[OnePercenter]

So you're saying that the healthcare insurance industry wrote a bill that requires their industry to pay more of the premiums they collect to claims? Sure they did.......

They wrote the bill that expunged the "public option" and put in a mandate to add 30,000,000 more customers to get healthcare insurance.

To relieve taxpayers of the $100 Billion we currently spend on the uninsured.

 

[impalero]

Except for the fact that healthcare premiums didn't rise during Clinton, you'd be correct.

They will now, because the healthcare insurance lobby wrote the ACA bill.

So you're saying that the healthcare insurance industry wrote a bill that requires their industry to pay more of the premiums they collect to claims? Sure they did.......

Every Industry in this country has seen cuts in pay and stagnant wages except those propped up by the Government. Like Wall Street, Big Pharma and the Insurance Industry.

The majority of Americans are tapped out and can no longer afford the outrageous costs so the government is stepping in at the behest of their financiers and making everyone pitch in and pay for it. Not just those that had it before.

The Healthcare and Insurance industry do not want to take a cut in pay like everyone else is and want to keep their outrageous expenses going.


Unless you can show me where there have been policies drafted up to counteract the outrageous costs?

 

[Contumacious]

They will now, because the healthcare insurance lobby wrote the ACA bill.

So you're saying that the healthcare insurance industry wrote a bill that requires their industry to pay more of the premiums they collect to claims? Sure they did.......

Every Industry in this country has seen cuts in pay and stagnant wages except those propped up by the Government. Like Wall Street, Big Pharma and the Insurance Industry.

The majority of Americans are tapped out and can no longer afford the outrageous costs so the government is stepping in at the behest of their financiers and making everyone pitch in and pay for it. Not just those that had it before.

The Healthcare and Insurance industry do not want to take a cut in pay like everyone else is and want to keep their outrageous expenses going.


Unless you can show me where there have been policies drafted up to counteract the outrageous costs?

Show me the research that you have conducted in order to find the reason for the outrageous costs.

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[OnePercenter]

They will now, because the healthcare insurance lobby wrote the ACA bill.

So you're saying that the healthcare insurance industry wrote a bill that requires their industry to pay more of the premiums they collect to claims? Sure they did.......

Every Industry in this country has seen cuts in pay and stagnant wages except those propped up by the Government. Like Wall Street, Big Pharma and the Insurance Industry.

The majority of Americans are tapped out and can no longer afford the outrageous costs so the government is stepping in at the behest of their financiers and making everyone pitch in and pay for it. Not just those that had it before.

The Healthcare and Insurance industry do not want to take a cut in pay like everyone else is and want to keep their outrageous expenses going.

The same reason big business is sitting on $100 Trillion in cash is the same reason the majority of Americans are tapped out. The morons voted for Bush.

The Healthcare and Insurance industry is doing just fine sir. UHC alone purchased 200+ hospitals during the Bush years.

 

[RKMBrown]

Patriot. You hear this word spoken all the time in American politics. Yet there seems to be so many definitions attributed to it. On one hand, you have Conservatives/Republicans/Libertarians defining a patriot who extols the will of our Constitution. Or a soldier on the battlefield defending our freedom. On the other, you have Liberals/Democrats/Progressives defining patriotism as helping the poor, educating our children and offering change to the country that would better suit the collective. An activist standing up for the rights of others. You hear the word bandied about and abused as a weapon or a tool for the disparagement of others in the political arena. But does anyone know what a real patriot is?

I was taught that patriotism was something resulting in love of country over self. I still believe that. I love my country, even in the sordid state of affairs it's in right now. But there are so many ways people define a Patriot. Many people when they hear the term, conjure up images of George Washington crossing the Delaware River or the First Continental Congress signing the Declaration of Independence. But nobody knows what a real patriot is, neither side has it right. To be a patriot is to be devoted to your country and her citizens, through thick and thin, to love her and cherish her like the finest cut diamond.

Patriotism isn't something which can be linked to political viewpoints. It is blasphemous to suggest such. If one questions anothers patriotism, is it for disagreement in politics? If it is, the one is a fool, for he knows not the true meaning of patriotism. If one questions anothers patriotism, is it for gauging their love of country? If it is, then the one is enlightened, knowing full well the meaning of what it takes to be a patriot.

My question to you:

Do you know what makes a patriot?

If that's what a patriot is then call me a revolutionary, cause I refuse to support this president or any of his ilk through thin or thick. I'd rather be the patriot for the group that removes people like him from our shores.

 

[Billo_Really]

If that's what a patriot is then call me a revolutionary, cause I refuse to support this president or any of his ilk through thin or thick. I'd rather be the patriot for the group that removes people like him from our shores.

Then get the **** out and go live in Dumbfuckistan!

I'm sure the people of Weimar, Germany dig your kind of fascist pig.

 

[RKMBrown]

If that's what a patriot is then call me a revolutionary, cause I refuse to support this president or any of his ilk through thin or thick. I'd rather be the patriot for the group that removes people like him from our shores.

Then get the **** out and go live in Dumbfuckistan!

I'm sure the people of Weimar, Germany dig your kind of fascist pig.

AYUP if boot licking, koolaid drinking, drug addled, retards like you are what being a patriot is all about... put me down as a revolutionary.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Patriot. You hear this word spoken all the time in American politics. Yet there seems to be so many definitions attributed to it. On one hand, you have Conservatives/Republicans/Libertarians defining a patriot who extols the will of our Constitution. Or a soldier on the battlefield defending our freedom. On the other, you have Liberals/Democrats/Progressives defining patriotism as helping the poor, educating our children and offering change to the country that would better suit the collective. An activist standing up for the rights of others. You hear the word bandied about and abused as a weapon or a tool for the disparagement of others in the political arena. But does anyone know what a real patriot is?

I was taught that patriotism was something resulting in love of country over self. I still believe that. I love my country, even in the sordid state of affairs it's in right now. But there are so many ways people define a Patriot. Many people when they hear the term, conjure up images of George Washington crossing the Delaware River or the First Continental Congress signing the Declaration of Independence. But nobody knows what a real patriot is, neither side has it right. To be a patriot is to be devoted to your country and her citizens, through thick and thin, to love her and cherish her like the finest cut diamond.

Patriotism isn't something which can be linked to political viewpoints. It is blasphemous to suggest such. If one questions anothers patriotism, is it for disagreement in politics? If it is, the one is a fool, for he knows not the true meaning of patriotism. If one questions anothers patriotism, is it for gauging their love of country? If it is, then the one is enlightened, knowing full well the meaning of what it takes to be a patriot.

My question to you:

Do you know what makes a patriot?

If that's what a patriot is then call me a revolutionary, cause I refuse to support this president or any of his ilk through thin or thick. I'd rather be the patriot for the group that removes people like him from our shores.

[MENTION=43831]RKMBrown[/MENTION]

You've got it all wrong, RKM. Love of country can mean in this case, standing up to the tyranny that is the president. I'm not suggesting you support him blindly or at all.

 

[Billo_Really]

You've got it all wrong, RKM. Love of country can mean in this case, standing up to the tyranny that is the president. I'm not suggesting you support him blindly or at all.

You're right!

Blind allegience to the flag, is not patriotism.


I was against George Bush as one could legally get, yet I always considered him the leader of my nation. My President.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You've got it all wrong, RKM. Love of country can mean in this case, standing up to the tyranny that is the president. I'm not suggesting you support him blindly or at all.

You're right!

Blind allegience to the flag, is not patriotism.


I was against George Bush as one could legally get, yet I always considered him the leader of my nation. My President.

True, but as long as you don't blindly follow your leader...

 

[Billo_Really]

True, but as long as you don't blindly follow your leader...

I stopped following Obama about 18 months into his first term.

 

[TemplarKormac]

True, but as long as you don't blindly follow your leader...

I stopped following Obama about 18 months into his first term.

Perhaps I give you too little credit, Billy. Well done.

 

[Billo_Really]

Perhaps I give you too little credit, Billy. Well done.

I guess a lot of it has to do with lessons learned from girlfriends past.

I'm not going to sit there and let someone constantly lie to me and go, "OK!"


I've learned to get quicker at pulling the plug.


All my female friends told me you better watch it, "women are evil; men are stupid!"

 

[RKMBrown]

Patriot. You hear this word spoken all the time in American politics. Yet there seems to be so many definitions attributed to it. On one hand, you have Conservatives/Republicans/Libertarians defining a patriot who extols the will of our Constitution. Or a soldier on the battlefield defending our freedom. On the other, you have Liberals/Democrats/Progressives defining patriotism as helping the poor, educating our children and offering change to the country that would better suit the collective. An activist standing up for the rights of others. You hear the word bandied about and abused as a weapon or a tool for the disparagement of others in the political arena. But does anyone know what a real patriot is?

I was taught that patriotism was something resulting in love of country over self. I still believe that. I love my country, even in the sordid state of affairs it's in right now. But there are so many ways people define a Patriot. Many people when they hear the term, conjure up images of George Washington crossing the Delaware River or the First Continental Congress signing the Declaration of Independence. But nobody knows what a real patriot is, neither side has it right. To be a patriot is to be devoted to your country and her citizens, through thick and thin, to love her and cherish her like the finest cut diamond.

Patriotism isn't something which can be linked to political viewpoints. It is blasphemous to suggest such. If one questions anothers patriotism, is it for disagreement in politics? If it is, the one is a fool, for he knows not the true meaning of patriotism. If one questions anothers patriotism, is it for gauging their love of country? If it is, then the one is enlightened, knowing full well the meaning of what it takes to be a patriot.

My question to you:

Do you know what makes a patriot?

If that's what a patriot is then call me a revolutionary, cause I refuse to support this president or any of his ilk through thin or thick. I'd rather be the patriot for the group that removes people like him from our shores.

[MENTION=43831]RKMBrown[/MENTION]

You've got it all wrong, RKM. Love of country can mean in this case, standing up to the tyranny that is the president. I'm not suggesting you support him blindly or at all.

I doubt there's a single democrat that would call a single republican a Patriot off the field of battle. Democrats are the enemy plain and simple.

 

[RKMBrown]

True, but as long as you don't blindly follow your leader...

I stopped following Obama about 18 months into his first term.

I stopped following Bush when he brought in no child left behind into TX as a Governor.

 

[Contumacious]

A Patriot is someone who is willing to die of dehydration at an Obama Hellcare Hospital:

Great Britain’s cash-strapped hospital system is already covertly culling its population of institutionalized retirees by withholding drinking water. Britain has culled its hospital population by 42,000 a year this way. Death by dehydration leaves no fingerprints. Nursing home patients there are reported to have struggled to find water from flower vases in order to survive. This horror movie may soon come to America.

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[boilermaker55]

What a childish and ignorant statement to make.
Thank you for revealing your true blind idiotic self to the board.

If that's what a patriot is then call me a revolutionary, cause I refuse to support this president or any of his ilk through thin or thick. I'd rather be the patriot for the group that removes people like him from our shores.

[MENTION=43831]RKMBrown[/MENTION]

You've got it all wrong, RKM. Love of country can mean in this case, standing up to the tyranny that is the president. I'm not suggesting you support him blindly or at all.

I doubt there's a single democrat that would call a single republican a Patriot off the field of battle. Democrats are the enemy plain and simple.