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LOL, so you just assume that anyone who reads your post will be persuaded. How do you get your head through doorways?

What I said was true, which is why you aren't refuting it. It's basic history.

You do have a good Democrats "no it's not" argument though, which is as intellectual as Democrats get
I am not that persuasive, it's hard to even discuss such matters with people who already have their minds made up. That being said, the facts speak for themselves. We did get out of there, unfortunately we wasted thousands of lives and billions of dollars unnecessarily. Today Vietnam is our 10th largest trading partner despite the political differences.
 

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There are people that are radicalized on the far-left and there are people radicalized on the far-right. They are a problem. Most people are somewhere in the middle and wish the extremes didn't exist. Roe versus Wade was a reasonable compromise. Now we have the far-right attempting to enact extremist abortion bills in their states, and the gun crisis is only going to get worse with current trends undoing reasonable controls.
 

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There are people that are radicalized on the far-left and there are people radicalized on the far-right. They are a problem. Most people are somewhere in the middle and wish the extremes didn't exist. Roe versus Wade was a reasonable compromise. Now we have the far-right attempting to enact extremist abortion bills in their states, and the gun crisis is only going to get worse with current trends undoing reasonable controls.
Back to the states.

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Back to the states.

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Right, but that's assuming they will accept reasonable measures. If they enact unconstitutional and illegal laws like they did before roe versus Wade which in turn made the federal government step in and create roe versus Wade. Even before roe versus went to the wayside states were enacting more egregious laws than there were before 1973. The federal government will have to step in to protect women again. I don't think they should wait until the death toll is in the hundreds.
 

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Right, but we've been down this road before. If the states don't do right this time, if they continue creating egregious abortion laws, the federal government will have to step in again to protect the citizenry. That's why Roe versus Wade came about in the first place.
 

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Right, but we've been down this road before. If the states don't do right this time, if they continue creating egregious abortion laws, the federal government will have to step in again to protect the citizenry. That's why Roe versus Wade came about in the first place.
Let's just say so far the states are off to a very bad start. North Texas and Oklahoma have had horrible cases occur already.
 

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By todays standard a liberal represents a philosophy that is ever changing and bending to fit a narrative that has become more socialistic in nature, coupled with redistribution of wealth. A conservative now represents strict interpretation of law, fiscal restraint, and equal rights for all within the context of law.
Hubert Humphrey was the last true progressive liberal by standards that applied today are no longer embraced by the DNC. He would be considered a RINO.
 

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By todays standard a liberal represents a philosophy that is ever changing and bending to fit a narrative that has become more socialistic in nature, coupled with redistribution of wealth. A conservative now represents strict interpretation of law, fiscal restraint, and equal rights for all within the context of law.
Hubert Humphrey was the last true progressive liberal by standards that applied today are no longer embraced by the DNC. He would be considered a RINO.
Sounds good. I'm more concerned about the Republicans are trying to call conservative. They seem to be more extreme than anyone, not willing to cooperate or budge from their strict position with a fascist, almost totalitarian ideology to achieve their agenda. Democratic Principals don't seem to matter to them. Lie, decievw, use treachery l to achieve your goal that's what it seems to be. How could a party go so wrong. It's like they've sold their soul to the devil.
 

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Right, but we've been down this road before.

The snake has simply been charmed out of his skin. Still, who knows the wiles of the leftist when invigorated by the spirit of Moloch.
 

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The snake has simply been charmed out of his skin. Still, who knows the wiles of the leftist when invigorated by the spirit of Moloch.
Wow, inciting Moloch, you far right people are really crazy and evil.
 

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Wow, inciting Moloch, you far right people are really crazy and evil.

Moloch incites those who just keep supporting the killing of babies...
 

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Now we know why you want more children born, people are catching on to you creeps, so you want to start using children no one will miss in your sacrifices. What horrible sick bastards you are.
 

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The way the Republicans are giving away tax incentives so the rich pay no taxes at all and dump them on the working poor and the middle class ensures that there will be no middle class in the near future just the super rich trillionaires and all of us poor people. Remember the Looney Republicans made this all possible. Two other Republican presidents attempted " trickle down " economics and it was a complete failure. In this case the third time isn't a charm, just another failure.

Your entire post is feelings and fantasy.
 

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Yes. You supporters of Moloch and your slice and dice shops.
You brought it up you own it. I didn't know this was why you wanted more children being born into this world, you really are some sick bastards.
 

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You want to abolish the inheritance tax so the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Having the poorest people pay most of the taxes is never in the interest of the people. Boy have you been conned.

Poor people pay zero taxes.
 

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