What is a...liberal?

[MaryL]

Kudos to Tim Pool: I heard a guest on his show ask that. How do you define...LEFT OR Right? Is it just an empty label?

 

[MaryL]

I didn't have an answer. It seems like simple question.

 

[task0778]

The question may be simple but I don't believe the answer is. I think most liberal people generally believe a larger gov't is the answer to most of our problems, if not all. The extent to which a person believes that across the wide variety of issues and problems we face as a society, looking to gov't as the solution pretty much indicates how much of a liberal a person is. And a person may be more liberal on some issues and less so on others.

IMHO, Liberals inclined to support more restrictions and limitations on our individual rights and freedoms, again varying to some degree depending on the issue. It's funny, they accuse the Right as being fascist yet it is they who want getter gov't control, which is the hallmark of Fascism. They want higher taxes and more intervention into our lives and they believe in equity more than equality under the law and in the marketplace.

 

[Ropey]

What is a liberal?

Someone who is willing to die for their right to your money.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

One of the basic differences is that liberals are foolish, and conservatives are wise.
This is why young inexperienced people tend to be liberal.

 

[miketx]

Kudos to Tim Pool: I heard a guest on his show ask that. How do you define...LEFT OR Right? Is it just an empty label?

The ones in power? Evil vile pieces of shit. The run of the mill brain dead? Stupid bastards.

 

[lg325]

There seems to be debate as to which definition is correct the European one or the one I was taught here in public schools in Florida USA. Mine is Left is defined by those political systems that are more Totalitarian such as fascism. communism, NAZISM. Far-Right is Anarchism or no government control. And in the middle is Republic democracy to total democracy.
Liberalism and Conservatism definitions seem to have changed from what was taught in school and defined in Dictionaries and Encyclopedias. From what I have seen posted online a lot of people seem confused as to how they are defined.
To me, Liberalism is a free market and as much personal freedom for the individual citizen as possible and a willingness to change with the times. Conservatism seeks change but along the lines of a solid anchor to the past and its knowledge and traditions.

 

[MaryL]

The question may be simple but I don't believe the answer is. I think most liberal people generally believe a larger gov't is the answer to most of our problems, if not all. The extent to which a person believes that across the wide variety of issues and problems we face as a society pretty much indicates how much of a liberal a person is. And a person may be more liberal on some issues and less so on others.

IMHO, Liberals inclined to support more restrictions and limitations on our individual rights and freedoms, again varying to some degree depending on the issue. It's funny, they accuse the Right as being fascist yet it is they who want getter gov't control, which is the hallmark of Fascism. They want higher taxes and more intervention into our lives and they believe in equity more than equality under the law and in the marketplace.

But that wasn't the question. What IS a liberal/leftist? So, somebody you don't like or an alternate opinion? I get it, big time, these creeps are the people big money (Chinese investors) seems to invest in. Disney, Twitter. CNN MSNBC, BLM seem to get huge investments. Groups like gays/trans and BLM, this goes in another direction. China. They seem to damn well know WHO is liberal ; and their deep pockets fund the gays rights BLM stuff, but I digress.

 

[Roudy]

Kudos to Tim Pool: I heard a guest on his show ask that. How do you define...LEFT OR Right? Is it just an empty label?

I don’t know, I’m not a biologist.

 

[skye]

This is a liberal....I posted it elsewhere but you asked and I answered.

 

[ReinyDays]

Conservatives like things the way they are, and prefer not to change ... not that they won't ... but they'd advocate slow stepwise change ... obviously, the rich today like things exactly the same, so they can stay rich ... change is bad ...

Liberals want to change things ... and many are our problems that need change ... RIGHT NOW ... and we're ready to beat some heads in to get these immediate changes ... it's the poor that hate things the way they are ... any change is a change for the better for them ...

Both political parties are expanding government ... as fast as they can ... and that's OUR fault for electing the crooks in the first place ...

 

[johngaltshrugged]

The question may be simple but I don't believe the answer is. I think most liberal people generally believe a larger gov't is the answer to most of our problems, if not all. The extent to which a person believes that across the wide variety of issues and problems we face as a society, looking to gov't as the solution pretty much indicates how much of a liberal a person is. And a person may be more liberal on some issues and less so on others.

IMHO, Liberals inclined to support more restrictions and limitations on our individual rights and freedoms, again varying to some degree depending on the issue. It's funny, they accuse the Right as being fascist yet it is they who want getter gov't control, which is the hallmark of Fascism. They want higher taxes and more intervention into our lives and they believe in equity more than equality under the law and in the marketplace.

While I agree that many who would label themselves as "liberals" feel much as you described, I would say it's these exact attributes that disqualify them from the "liberal" side of anything.
Words & definitions matter despite the progressive's best attempts.
Liberal: "A supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise" Or "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas".
The very word disqualifies most of the so-called liberals from being deserving of the moniker.
In fact, it can be easily argued they are the exact opposite & calling themselves liberal is Orwellian doublespeak

 

[task0778]

While I agree that many who would label themselves as "liberals" feel much as you described, I would say it's these exact attributes that disqualify them from the "liberal" side of anything.
Words & definitions matter despite the progressive's best attempts.
Liberal: "A supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise" Or "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas".
The very word disqualifies most of the so-called liberals from being deserving of the moniker.
In fact, it can be easily argued they are the exact opposite & calling themselves liberal is Orwellian doublespeak

We seem to have a different definition for what a liberal is. Today's liberal democrat is quite far from the "political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise". Nor have they shown a willingness to "respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own". They do however appear to be more "open to new ideas". The problem IMHO is they are too quick to embrace new ideas without considering the cost and consequences.

 

[Winco]

Someone who is willing to die for their right to your money.

I always knew a liberal as a, "Tree hugger."
A sort of hippy that didn't care about money.
That cared about a cause.
When did that change?

Now, Ropey is claiming 'socialist, someone that wants your money.'

Whereas, I thought Liberals were ones that chained themselves to trees and were willing to die if the BullDozer got orders to mow them down.

Has the definition of Liberal Changed?

 

[Ropey]

 

[johngaltshrugged]

We seem to have a different definition for what a liberal is. Today's liberal democrat is quite far from the "political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise". Nor have they shown a willingness to "respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own". They do however appear to be more "open to new ideas". The problem IMHO is they are too quick to embrace new ideas without considering the cost and consequences.

That is why I refuse to call them liberals. What new ideas are they open to that don't fall back on authoritarian instincts? Masks, vaccines, censorship, mandates, racism, indoctrination, gender bending, climate change, infanticide & eugenics. None of these are new ideas or have roots in actual liberal philosophy. These are all tools of totalitarian tactics of divide & conquer.
Scratch a progressive & it's not a liberal that pops out, it's a tyrant

 

[Rigby5]

Most people have the definitions of liberal, progressive, conservative, and left and right wing, totally wrong.

There are 2 possible different meanings of liberal.
Before the US, liberal meant one who defends individual liberties, as in the French revolution.
After the US constitution, liberal mean one who does federally what the constitution does not prohibit, vs a conservative who does only what the constitution specifically authorizes.

A progressive is just one who tries to improve the Rule of Law to make rights more protected.

Left wing means trying to empower all equally, which right wing tries to support the elite over the masses.

 

[Rigby5]

The question may be simple but I don't believe the answer is. I think most liberal people generally believe a larger gov't is the answer to most of our problems, if not all. The extent to which a person believes that across the wide variety of issues and problems we face as a society, looking to gov't as the solution pretty much indicates how much of a liberal a person is. And a person may be more liberal on some issues and less so on others.

IMHO, Liberals inclined to support more restrictions and limitations on our individual rights and freedoms, again varying to some degree depending on the issue. It's funny, they accuse the Right as being fascist yet it is they who want getter gov't control, which is the hallmark of Fascism. They want higher taxes and more intervention into our lives and they believe in equity more than equality under the law and in the marketplace.

Wrong.
The problem the liberals and left correctly identify is that the wealthy elite use their monopoly on wealth in order to control our lives and the government.
The liberals and left correctly realize that government is the only way to counter the manipulations of the wealthy elite.

 

[Thinker101]

Wrong.
The problem the liberals and left correctly identify is that the wealthy elite use their monopoly on wealth in order to control our lives and the government.
The liberals and left correctly realize that government is the only way to counter the manipulations of the wealthy elite.

So if the wealthy elite control our lives and the government, the liberals want to control the government? Yea, pretty sure that won't work out too well.

 

[Rigby5]

That is why I refuse to call them liberals. What new ideas are they open to that don't fall back on authoritarian instincts? Masks, vaccines, censorship, mandates, racism, indoctrination, gender bending, climate change, infanticide & eugenics. None of these are new ideas or have roots in actual liberal philosophy. These are all tools of totalitarian tactics of divide & conquer.
Scratch a progressive & it's not a liberal that pops out, it's a tyrant

That is not "liberals".
The masks, social distancing, waiting for the vaccines, boosters, etc., was all the wealthy elite.
That was Pfiser, Moderna, and Fauci.

Both democrats and republican parties are owned by the wealthy elite.