What If the Children Dying in Gaza Were Jews?

[Billo_Really]

I'm REALLY confused:
One the one hand, the Hamas lovers here INSIST the world HATES Israel and the Jews.
On the other hand, the Hamas lovers here INSIST the world LOVES Israel and the Jews.

How about the world hates Israel and loves the Jews?

 

[Hossfly]

Scrapping the bottom of the barrel now to demonise the Jews. The Jews are not in gaza they are in Israel, The Jews provide shelters for their children and not use them as shelter. The dead children in gaza are all down to hamas not abiding by INTERNATIONAL LAW.

[MENTION=35705]Phoenall[/MENTION] What part of INTERNATIONAL LAW do you mean?

If you don't know then you really have no need to be here. [MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

 

[Indeependent]

I'm REALLY confused:
One the one hand, the Hamas lovers here INSIST the world HATES Israel and the Jews.
On the other hand, the Hamas lovers here INSIST the world LOVES Israel and the Jews.

How about the world hates Israel and loves the Jews?

How about the fact that you refuse to accept that 90% of Jews are NOT observant at all and yet STILL support Israel because their parents or grandparents went through the never happened Holocaust.

You see, your brain cannot adjust to the fact that a Lefty is an Israeli who hasn't yet had a rocket lobbed at them and a Jew without a beard is a Zionist.

 

[fanger]

Scrapping the bottom of the barrel now to demonise the Jews. The Jews are not in gaza they are in Israel, The Jews provide shelters for their children and not use them as shelter. The dead children in gaza are all down to hamas not abiding by INTERNATIONAL LAW.

[MENTION=35705]Phoenall[/MENTION] What part of INTERNATIONAL LAW do you mean?

If you don't know then you really have no need to be here. [MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

[MENTION=15726]Hossfly[/MENTION] Would you care to post a link, that is if you know?

 

[Hossfly]

[MENTION=35705]Phoenall[/MENTION] What part of INTERNATIONAL LAW do you mean?

If you don't know then you really have no need to be here. [MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

[MENTION=15726]Hossfly[/MENTION] Would you care to post a link, that is if you know?

I know, but look it up yourself. Ever heard of Google?

 

[fanger]

If you don't know then you really have no need to be here. [MENTION=49167]fanger[/MENTION]

[MENTION=15726]Hossfly[/MENTION] Would you care to post a link, that is if you know?

I know, but look it up yourself. Ever heard of Google?

How do you look up something non existing? [MENTION=15726]Hossfly[/MENTION]

 

[Billo_Really]

How about the fact that you refuse to accept that 90% of Jews are NOT observant at all and yet STILL support Israel because their parents or grandparents went through the never happened Holocaust.

You see, your brain cannot adjust to the fact that a Lefty is an Israeli who hasn't yet had a rocket lobbed at them and a Jew without a beard is a Zionist.

How about you accept the fact that criticism of Israel, has nothing to do with Judaism?

 

[Indeependent]

How about the fact that you refuse to accept that 90% of Jews are NOT observant at all and yet STILL support Israel because their parents or grandparents went through the never happened Holocaust.

You see, your brain cannot adjust to the fact that a Lefty is an Israeli who hasn't yet had a rocket lobbed at them and a Jew without a beard is a Zionist.

How about you accept the fact that criticism of Israel, has nothing to do with Judaism?

It does if 90% of Jews are Zionists.

 

[Billo_Really]

It does if 90% of Jews are Zionists.

Judaism, is a religion; Zionism, is a political movement.

 

[Indeependent]

It does if 90% of Jews are Zionists.

Judaism, is a religion; Zionism, is a political movement.

Nope!
You really gotta brush up on your Jewish Scripture.
And it's not ALWAYS referred to as Zion, but also the Land of Canaan or The Land which I promised to your forefathers.
A whole bunch of names.

 

[Two Thumbs]

"They" Made Us Do It to Them ....

What If the Children Dying in Gaza Were Jews?


Let’s do a thought experiment and imagine that the Arabs had gotten the better of the Israelis in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War and after years of conflict, all that was left of Israel was the Gaza strip.

Assume for a moment that instead of Palestinians, over 1.8 million Jews were crammed into the 11 mile Gaza strip and the state of Palestine, subsidized and supported by a superpower, was administering the calories to the Jews in Gaza, keeping them to a limit of 2,300 a day.

Imagine that instead of Palestinian children, it was Jewish children living under a Palestinian embargo that denied them toys, books, music and until a few years ago, even pasta. How do you think the world would react? Imagine if it were Palestinian commandos who had assaulted a peaceful cargo ship attempting to break the embargo to bring supplies to Jews in Gaza, killing nine, including one American. Do you think 85 US Senators would have signed a letter supporting the embargo on Gaza and the deadly attack on the cargo ship if that ship had been on a humanitarian mission to help Jews in Gaza?

What If the Children Dying in Gaza Were Jews? » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

imagine

Wouldn't matter.

If you can't bee good neighbors and try to get along after 50 years, I wouldn't care what the people that showed up, turned a shit hole into a paradise, offered good jobs, longer life, etc etc, did, when you shot rockets at them from behind your children

 

[Billo_Really]

Nope!
You really gotta brush up on your Jewish Scripture.
And it's not ALWAYS referred to as Zion, but also the Land of Canaan or The Land which I promised to your forefathers.
A whole bunch of names.

Theodore Herzl's Zionism, is a political movement.

 

[Phoenall]

Scrapping the bottom of the barrel now to demonise the Jews. The Jews are not in gaza they are in Israel, The Jews provide shelters for their children and not use them as shelter. The dead children in gaza are all down to hamas not abiding by INTERNATIONAL LAW.

[MENTION=35705]Phoenall[/MENTION] What part of INTERNATIONAL LAW do you mean?

The Geneva conventions that deal with human shields and using civilian structures as military bases. Once this is done the civilians of any age become the responsibility of the National power ( in this case hamas ) and any deaths are placed firmly at their feet. Israel has given up to 4 days notice of their intentions to bomb military installations positioned inside civilian structures so it was up to hamas to evacuate the areas of all civilians. THAT IS THE INTERNATIONAL LAW IN PLACE AT THIS TIME.


You will find Rokor detailed it a few days ago citing the articles and sections that dealt with this. So if you want clarification do a search for this

 

[Phoenall]

[MENTION=35705]Phoenall[/MENTION] What part of INTERNATIONAL LAW do you mean?

He doesn't know! He just says that and never provides proof to back it up.

He argues like a 15 year old.

because you don't like being shown as a NAZI JEW HATING ANTI SEMITIC POS isn't that right dildo

 

[Indeependent]

Nope!
You really gotta brush up on your Jewish Scripture.
And it's not ALWAYS referred to as Zion, but also the Land of Canaan or The Land which I promised to your forefathers.
A whole bunch of names.

Theodore Herzl's Zionism, is a political movement.

The "political movement" was spurred by it's basis in Scripture.
It was too embarrassing back then to use TJS as a basis for anything geopolitical.

 

[fanger]

Wouldn't matter.

If you can't bee good neighbors and try to get along after 50 years, I wouldn't care what the people that showed up, turned a shit hole into a paradise, offered good jobs, longer life, etc etc, did, when you shot rockets at them from behind your children

The rockets fired from the "paradise" of Gaza are fired from underground tunnels that cant be seen until they're launched, Israel has the Iron doom gifted to them by the US. with which to counter them,

the bombing and artillery strikes on Schools, Hospitals, refugee camps and disabled peoples homes, are to strike Terror and death to the population

 

[Indeependent]

Wouldn't matter.

If you can't bee good neighbors and try to get along after 50 years, I wouldn't care what the people that showed up, turned a shit hole into a paradise, offered good jobs, longer life, etc etc, did, when you shot rockets at them from behind your children

The rockets fired from the "paradise" of Gaza are fired from underground tunnels that cant be seen until they're launched, Israel has the Iron doom gifted to them by the US. with which to counter them,

the bombing and artillery strikes on Schools, Hospitals, refugee camps and disabled peoples homes, are to strike Terror and death to the population

Once again, numb nuts, Israel DEVELOPED the system and the US gets the design plans for their contribution.

 

[Phoenall]

[MENTION=15726]Hossfly[/MENTION] Would you care to post a link, that is if you know?

I know, but look it up yourself. Ever heard of Google?

How do you look up something non existing? [MENTION=15726]Hossfly[/MENTION]

Is it then look here

Customary IHL - Practice Relating to Rule 97. Human Shields

Geneva Convention I

Article 19, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention I provides:


The responsible authorities shall ensure that [fixed establishments and mobile medical units] are, as far as possible, situated in such a manner that attacks against military objectives cannot imperil their safety.
Shifa hospital was proven to have a rocket launcher in its grounds.

Geneva Convention IV

Article 28 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations

hamas proven to use human shields to protect military installations many times in the last 3 weeks.

Additional Protocol I

Article 12(4) of the 1977 Additional Protocol I provides:


Under no circumstances shall medical units be used in an attempt to shield military objectives from attack. Whenever possible, the Parties to the conflict shall ensure that medical units are so sited that attacks against military objectives do not imperil their safety.




Article 51(7) of the 1977 Additional Protocol I provides:


The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations. The Parties to the conflict shall not direct the movement of the civilian population or individual civilians in order to attempt to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield military operations

Shifa hospital again, and hamas human shields


ICC Statute

Pursuant to Article 8(2)(b)(xxiii) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “tilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts

hamas use of human shields


New Delhi Draft Rules

Article 13 of the 1956 New Delhi Draft Rules provides:


Parties to the conflict are prohibited from placing or keeping members of the civilian population subject to their authority in or near military objectives, with the idea of inducing the enemy to refrain from attacking those objectives


hamas use of human shields



UN General Assembly


In a resolution adopted in 2003 on assistance to unaccompanied refugee minors, the UN General Assembly:


7. Calls upon all States and other parties to armed conflict to comply with their obligations under international humanitarian law, human rights law and refugee law and, in this regard, calls upon States parties to respect fully the provisions of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and related instruments, and to respect the provisions of the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which accord children affected by armed conflict special protection and treatment;


8. Condemns all acts of exploitation of unaccompanied refugee minors, including their use as soldiers or human shields in armed conflict and their forced recruitment into military forces, and any other acts that endanger their safety and personal security


The P.A. signed this as full high contracting parties earlier this year, and are in breach already.


UN Commission on Human Rights

In a resolution adopted in 2003 on the question of the violation of human rights in the occupied Arab territories, including Palestine, the UN Commission on Human Rights strongly condemned “the use of Palestinian citizens as human shields during Israeli incursions into Palestinian areas”.





In a resolution adopted in 2004 on human rights in the occupied Arab territories, including Palestine, the UN Commission on Human Rights:


Taking into consideration the provisions of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949 (Fourth Geneva Convention), the provisions of Additional Protocol I thereto of 1977 and the Hague Convention IV, of 18 October 1907, and Annexed Regulations respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land,


Recalling resolutions of the Security Council, the General Assembly and the Commission on Human Rights relating to the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, since the 5 June 1967 war,


Reaffirming the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to the Palestinian territories occupied since the June 1967 war, including East Jerusalem,


…


9. Strongly condemns once more … the use of Palestinian citizens as human shields during Israeli incursions into Palestinian areas

again the use of human shields by hamas and fatah.





Is this enough for you to be going on with, or do you want more evidence of hamas' breaches of INTERNATIONAL LAW and the GENEVA CONVENTIONS.

 

[Phoenall]

How about the fact that you refuse to accept that 90% of Jews are NOT observant at all and yet STILL support Israel because their parents or grandparents went through the never happened Holocaust.

You see, your brain cannot adjust to the fact that a Lefty is an Israeli who hasn't yet had a rocket lobbed at them and a Jew without a beard is a Zionist.

How about you accept the fact that criticism of Israel, has nothing to do with Judaism?

How so when Israel is Judaism ?

 

[Phoenall]

It does if 90% of Jews are Zionists.

Judaism, is a religion; Zionism, is a political movement.

Zionism is founded on the principles of Judaism an that it teaches the return of the Jews to Israel and the destruction of its enemies so the Jews can build the 3rd Temple.