What I don't get about these Nazis.

[SassyIrishLass]

Legitimized by Trump's administration? ROFLAMO You pulled that straight outa ya hole

If you could take a step back...yes. Legitimized.

Why has he been so reluctant...so slow..and inconsistent in denouncing these groups? He's only done it under extreme pressure. That has certainly emboldened them, legitimzed them...and given them a MAINSTREAM platform. Frankly...because I DO NOT think you support the viewpoints espoused by white supremacists and David Dukites - you should not be making excuses, you should be demanding a clear unequivable condemnation from our countries top leadership. There is no room for this kind of hatred and the violence these groups espouse.

This isn't the time to say - oh but the left - oh but the left. The Antifa movement made it's agenda clear in it's rampant infiltration of otherwise peaceful movements, it's call for violent property destruction, etc. I acknowledge that. Can't you acknowledge the excesses of your side here? Unlike Antifa - this guy ran his car into a crowd. He killed someone.

And instead of condemnation...I'm seeing posts where folks are even attacking this girl's character. She didn't deserve to die.

Why were you not bitching when Obama was coddling these groups?

Stop being a damn hack. It's old

What groups? Antifa? They didn't exist. Black Panthers? He didn't coddle them. BLM the current bogeyman? Well, hate to break it to you but BLM is not a centralized organization - anyone can claim to be part of the movement and act as they wish. The women who founded it, abhored and condemned violence, particularly the murder of police. Or...do you over look that?

In the meantime, I have yet to see anything similar from White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups. Unlike BLM, which is pretty much demanding an investigation into and an improvement in police/race relations - these other groups simply want to get rid of "the others". Jews, blacks, Mexicans, Muslims...

So...I'm thinking you are the one being a hack here (a term you grossly overuse) - why can't you simply, unequivacably condemn them?

I'll throw you a freebie. I support the rights of counter protesters to protest. It's free speech. Just as I support the rights of KKK and other assholes to march - it's free speech. I do not support Antifa, nor do I support the destruction of property and I certainly don't support killing the opposition.

Now, Obama isn't president. Trump IS.

Wrong chit for brains, I've said they are all extremist fools.

Really.

Yet you blame Obama for one extremist group and absolve Trump for another.

I never absolved anyone, I said he was correct in blaming all involved

Stop making shit up

 

[Coyote]

If you could take a step back...yes. Legitimized.

Why has he been so reluctant...so slow..and inconsistent in denouncing these groups? He's only done it under extreme pressure. That has certainly emboldened them, legitimzed them...and given them a MAINSTREAM platform. Frankly...because I DO NOT think you support the viewpoints espoused by white supremacists and David Dukites - you should not be making excuses, you should be demanding a clear unequivable condemnation from our countries top leadership. There is no room for this kind of hatred and the violence these groups espouse.

This isn't the time to say - oh but the left - oh but the left. The Antifa movement made it's agenda clear in it's rampant infiltration of otherwise peaceful movements, it's call for violent property destruction, etc. I acknowledge that. Can't you acknowledge the excesses of your side here? Unlike Antifa - this guy ran his car into a crowd. He killed someone.

And instead of condemnation...I'm seeing posts where folks are even attacking this girl's character. She didn't deserve to die.

Why were you not bitching when Obama was coddling these groups?

Stop being a damn hack. It's old

What groups? Antifa? They didn't exist. Black Panthers? He didn't coddle them. BLM the current bogeyman? Well, hate to break it to you but BLM is not a centralized organization - anyone can claim to be part of the movement and act as they wish. The women who founded it, abhored and condemned violence, particularly the murder of police. Or...do you over look that?

In the meantime, I have yet to see anything similar from White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups. Unlike BLM, which is pretty much demanding an investigation into and an improvement in police/race relations - these other groups simply want to get rid of "the others". Jews, blacks, Mexicans, Muslims...

So...I'm thinking you are the one being a hack here (a term you grossly overuse) - why can't you simply, unequivacably condemn them?

I'll throw you a freebie. I support the rights of counter protesters to protest. It's free speech. Just as I support the rights of KKK and other assholes to march - it's free speech. I do not support Antifa, nor do I support the destruction of property and I certainly don't support killing the opposition.

Now, Obama isn't president. Trump IS.

Wrong chit for brains, I've said they are all extremist fools.

Really.

Yet you blame Obama for one extremist group and absolve Trump for another.

I never absolved anyone, I said he was correct in blaming all involved

Stop making shit up

hmmm....he was correct in blaming all involved yet in similar instances you demanded Obama specifically name who was to blame. Too funny

Hypocrisy noted

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Why were you not bitching when Obama was coddling these groups?

Stop being a damn hack. It's old

What groups? Antifa? They didn't exist. Black Panthers? He didn't coddle them. BLM the current bogeyman? Well, hate to break it to you but BLM is not a centralized organization - anyone can claim to be part of the movement and act as they wish. The women who founded it, abhored and condemned violence, particularly the murder of police. Or...do you over look that?

In the meantime, I have yet to see anything similar from White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups. Unlike BLM, which is pretty much demanding an investigation into and an improvement in police/race relations - these other groups simply want to get rid of "the others". Jews, blacks, Mexicans, Muslims...

So...I'm thinking you are the one being a hack here (a term you grossly overuse) - why can't you simply, unequivacably condemn them?

I'll throw you a freebie. I support the rights of counter protesters to protest. It's free speech. Just as I support the rights of KKK and other assholes to march - it's free speech. I do not support Antifa, nor do I support the destruction of property and I certainly don't support killing the opposition.

Now, Obama isn't president. Trump IS.

Wrong chit for brains, I've said they are all extremist fools.

Really.

Yet you blame Obama for one extremist group and absolve Trump for another.

I never absolved anyone, I said he was correct in blaming all involved

Stop making shit up

hmmm....he was correct in blaming all involved yet in similar instances you demanded Obama specifically name who was to blame. Too funny

Hypocrisy noted

You're like that cow friend of yours, Bode. You say shit hoping it sticks.

This ain't my first rodeo...better stop

 

[Coyote]

What groups? Antifa? They didn't exist. Black Panthers? He didn't coddle them. BLM the current bogeyman? Well, hate to break it to you but BLM is not a centralized organization - anyone can claim to be part of the movement and act as they wish. The women who founded it, abhored and condemned violence, particularly the murder of police. Or...do you over look that?

In the meantime, I have yet to see anything similar from White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups. Unlike BLM, which is pretty much demanding an investigation into and an improvement in police/race relations - these other groups simply want to get rid of "the others". Jews, blacks, Mexicans, Muslims...

So...I'm thinking you are the one being a hack here (a term you grossly overuse) - why can't you simply, unequivacably condemn them?

I'll throw you a freebie. I support the rights of counter protesters to protest. It's free speech. Just as I support the rights of KKK and other assholes to march - it's free speech. I do not support Antifa, nor do I support the destruction of property and I certainly don't support killing the opposition.

Now, Obama isn't president. Trump IS.

Wrong chit for brains, I've said they are all extremist fools.

Really.

Yet you blame Obama for one extremist group and absolve Trump for another.

I never absolved anyone, I said he was correct in blaming all involved

Stop making shit up

hmmm....he was correct in blaming all involved yet in similar instances you demanded Obama specifically name who was to blame. Too funny

Hypocrisy noted

You're like that cow friend of yours, Bode. You say shit hoping it sticks.

This ain't my first rodeo...better stop

I can't resist ... but ... for all those rodeos...why do you keep ending up in the cow flops?

Seriously - can't you EVER admit that maybe Trump is wrong? He should not be so mealy mouthed in condemning these groups? Why couldn't he have condemned the White Supremacists, who murdered an American woman - with the same strong unequivacal language he and Pence used just recently in condemning the guy that drove a van into a crowd in Barcelona? Did he say anything about there being nice people on both sides then?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Wrong chit for brains, I've said they are all extremist fools.

Really.

Yet you blame Obama for one extremist group and absolve Trump for another.

I never absolved anyone, I said he was correct in blaming all involved

Stop making shit up

hmmm....he was correct in blaming all involved yet in similar instances you demanded Obama specifically name who was to blame. Too funny

Hypocrisy noted

You're like that cow friend of yours, Bode. You say shit hoping it sticks.

This ain't my first rodeo...better stop

I can't resist ... but ... for all those rodeos...why do you keep ending up in the cow flops?

Seriously - can't you EVER admit that maybe Trump is wrong? He should not be so mealy mouthed in condemning these groups? Why couldn't he have condemned the White Supremacists, who murdered an American woman - with the same strong unequivacal language he and Pence used just recently in condemning the guy that drove a van into a crowd in Barcelona? Did he say anything about there being nice people on both sides then?

You heard me....enough said. Better than you will ever be learned it.

Have a good one

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why are democrats complaining about white supremacists and Jews? Democrats hate Jews more than the nazis! The nazis may walk around in a circle mumbling about Jews. Democrats want the Jews murdered and are actively using the palestinians to do it. It's not white supremacists funding Hamas and Hezbollah, it's democrats.

 

[PredFan]

Nazi's hate Jews, so they bitch about them.
White supremacists hate blacks, so they bitch about them.
White haters hate whites, so they bitch about them.

Context, local, etc, doesn't matter to extremists, they'll use every opportunity to get in a snipe or gripe. You can see this shit in almost every thread on here; to example people who hate Hillary bitch about her in unrelated threads, people who hate Trump bring him up in unrelated threads, etc.

True but until this latest incident, the rallies from them had some at least vague connection. They would protest at the capitol for taking down a confederate flag, or protest at schools for segregation. As much as we can all agree that their ideas suck, at least there was some connection. This made no sense at all.

You must be new to the game of "Political Wrangling"

So they call the event what? "Unite the Right" - say they are there to protest the statue of General Lee being pulled down. Subversively they're trying to wrangle political support for their personal beliefs, views - basically trying to "fit in" with a political voice (because bluntly the Nazi's and white supremacists have zero political clout and no one really pays attention to their stupid.

Let me tell ya a story kido, when I was growing up there were "evil" groups too; Communists, Socialists, Anarchists were on that list. Today, the left wing, the Democrats have embraced them.

The Nazi's and white supremacists are attempting to play the same game. It won't work for them because the reality is that most conservatives don't like em, they have nothing to offer us. Unlike the socialists who offer free shit, the communists who offer faux utopia, and the anarchists who offer "freedom," Nazi's and white supremacists have jack shit but hate.

Ironic, because the media is playing the exact same game and trying to wrangle all the right into the nazi and white supremacist camp - didn't work during the election and it won't work now. It just makes them look like shit too.

Welcome to the wonderful world of modern politics kid!

Not new at all. Cool story and I can't disagree with very much of it but it doesn't answer my question. There may not be an answer to my question, however.

 

[PredFan]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

they weren't there about the civil war monuments, as you surmised. Nazis always go after jews. they can't help it. they're programmed for it. and fact is irrelevant.

They were there to promote their white supremacist ideology, and sell it to the public as part of the new political mainstream, energized and legitimized by Trumps administration. That includes a general hatred of Jews, blacks, immigrants and Muslims. They don't take the cafeteria approach.

Pretty much in a nutshell.

An "nutshell" is an appropriate recepticle for that idiotic response.

 

[PredFan]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

I love how stupid you are. It completes me.

Ignorant troll contributes nothing at all.

 

[martybegan]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

When it comes to nut jobs it doesn't matter what the original protest is about.

Remember back when Bush was president and all those anti-war protests? The protest may be about the war but the protesters took it as an opportunity to vent about everything from meat eating to ending world capitalism.

The ironic thing is that not liking jews is one thing the anti-fa idiots and nazi's have in common.

 

[PredFan]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

Well, DAMN, what the hell does the Nazis, neo or otherwise, have to do with American ANYTHING anyway? I see a vague corollary: Nazis and the Klan represented a lost cause, both blame their losses on non whites (Jews, blacks, Carpetbagger republicans & Catholics). And both can't admit they were wrong ever.

They don't have anything to do with American anything.

 

[PredFan]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

Just one correction George Soros is Jewish.

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As a Jew in Hungary in 1944, Soros was in serious danger of deportation. To avoid Soros’ apprehension by the Nazis, his father had him spend the summer of 1944 living with a non-Jewish Ministry of Agriculture employee, posing as his godson. George Soros later said that he “grew up in a Jewish, anti-Semitic home,” and that his parents were “uncomfortable with their religious roots.” They even changed their name from Shwartz to Soros in 1936 to disassociate themselves from the Jewish community.



George Soros

Thanks, I have acknowledged that mistake. Still has nothing to do with Robert E. Lee.

 

[dani67]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

George Soros isn't a Jew

 

[LoneLaugher]

The OP is upset because I find it stupid when someone asks why NAZIs hate Jews.

He actually asked why NAZIs have a problem with Jews. And I am the troll.

Perfect.

 

[Votto]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

But Soros and the Dims hate Zionists. Both the hate filled neo Nazi types and socialists. Soros and the Dims want to reenact a Holocaust in Israel by giving the land back to ISIS as the neo Nazi types will be cheering in the background.

 

[Pogo]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

Just one correction George Soros is Jewish.

View attachment 144337

As a Jew in Hungary in 1944, Soros was in serious danger of deportation. To avoid Soros’ apprehension by the Nazis, his father had him spend the summer of 1944 living with a non-Jewish Ministry of Agriculture employee, posing as his godson. George Soros later said that he “grew up in a Jewish, anti-Semitic home,” and that his parents were “uncomfortable with their religious roots.” They even changed their name from Shwartz to Soros in 1936 to disassociate themselves from the Jewish community.



George Soros

Thanks, I have acknowledged that mistake. Still has nothing to do with Robert E. Lee.

Correct. It doesn't. Virtually nothing of what went down in Charlottesville, the entire weekend, had anything to do with Robert E. Lee. Already pointed that out. He's just a pretext for shitstirring. If it wasn't a statue of Robert E. Lee it would have been whatever opportunity they could have latched onto.

---- Which all points to a certain hypocrisy, considering especially all the influx from way out of town, including but not limited to Duke, Spencer and James Fields, on an issue that belongs to the local community and was already decided.

I don't remember that happening when New Orleans took its Robert E. Lee and other monuments down.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Wrong chit for brains, I've said they are all extremist fools.

Really.

Yet you blame Obama for one extremist group and absolve Trump for another.

I never absolved anyone, I said he was correct in blaming all involved

Stop making shit up

hmmm....he was correct in blaming all involved yet in similar instances you demanded Obama specifically name who was to blame. Too funny

Hypocrisy noted

You're like that cow friend of yours, Bode. You say shit hoping it sticks.

This ain't my first rodeo...better stop

I can't resist ... but ... for all those rodeos...why do you keep ending up in the cow flops?

Seriously - can't you EVER admit that maybe Trump is wrong? He should not be so mealy mouthed in condemning these groups? Why couldn't he have condemned the White Supremacists, who murdered an American woman - with the same strong unequivacal language he and Pence used just recently in condemning the guy that drove a van into a crowd in Barcelona? Did he say anything about there being nice people on both sides then?

Do you think all Muslims should be blamed because two muslims drove into a crowd. Trump was right, not everyone protesting the removal of the monuments is a nazi.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Really.

Yet you blame Obama for one extremist group and absolve Trump for another.

I never absolved anyone, I said he was correct in blaming all involved

Stop making shit up

hmmm....he was correct in blaming all involved yet in similar instances you demanded Obama specifically name who was to blame. Too funny

Hypocrisy noted

You're like that cow friend of yours, Bode. You say shit hoping it sticks.

This ain't my first rodeo...better stop

I can't resist ... but ... for all those rodeos...why do you keep ending up in the cow flops?

Seriously - can't you EVER admit that maybe Trump is wrong? He should not be so mealy mouthed in condemning these groups? Why couldn't he have condemned the White Supremacists, who murdered an American woman - with the same strong unequivacal language he and Pence used just recently in condemning the guy that drove a van into a crowd in Barcelona? Did he say anything about there being nice people on both sides then?

Do you think all Muslims should be blamed because two muslims drove into a crowd. Trump was right, not everyone protesting the removal of the monuments is a nazi.

They may not be NAZIs. But they are all bigots. Every last one of them.

And this is not about monuments. It's about white supremacy.

 

[PredFan]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

When it comes to nut jobs it doesn't matter what the original protest is about.

Remember back when Bush was president and all those anti-war protests? The protest may be about the war but the protesters took it as an opportunity to vent about everything from meat eating to ending world capitalism.

The ironic thing is that not liking jews is one thing the anti-fa idiots and nazi's have in common.

You're right! I had forgotten about that.

 

[PredFan]

they were chanting against Jews.

Umm, what? What do Jews have to do with the confederate statues? The Jews weren't part of the Civil War, and the Jews aren't the ones trying to take the statues down? BLM isn't packed with Jews, none of the leftist criminals in that local government are Jewish. George Soros isn't a Jew, 0bama isn't a Jew, wtf is that about?

George Soros isn't a Jew

He is but it's not really relevant.