What has Chevy Done???

[Frannie]

Lol enjoy the turbo hoses coming loose, then enjoy replacing the 10000 dollar turbos

I just test drove a mustang gt and find it comical that a muffler is a 995 dollar extra.

Lol ford also decided that Americans no longer want cars. Honda sales spiking

Brilliant

Is that just for the muffler, or is it an upgraded exhaust system?

The stock gt sounds like a blackhawk helicopter. The 995 dollar option quiets the car if you so choose. In a vette the quiet exhaust is standard the dual exhaust does the opposite and opens a baffle allowing for less constraint more volume and 5 more horses. So in a gt if you do not want to wake your neighbors you need spend another grand. Ford has the process ass backwards

Oh, I see. If im not mistaken, I believe the Ford GTs in Great Britain have to have the quiet muffler. That might even be for all of Europe.

Then ford can't pull this con there. In the USA ford has determined that all buyers get race car exhaust unless they spend 995 dollars more for a functioning exhaust that will not wake the entire neighborhood. I have no problem with a performance oriented user paying more for an unconstrained exhaust system in a mustang, however forcing the other 75 to 90 percent to fork over another grand for a functioning muffler should be investigated by the NHTSA as a defect.

I had had a GT, I would want it to be loud, but that's just me.

Do you believe that none of your neighbors have the right to sleep? Or that they do not own hammers

 

[Frannie]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995, Chevy/GM has potentially devastated the American sports car market for the foreseeable future. Recent dyno testing indicates that GM's HP and torque figures are way below the actual numbers which are close to 600 in each case. 0-60 times of 2.8 seconds are real.

And lest one forget, the styling of this car, both inside and out are exotic-level, with only true cranks finding any fault with ANYTHING about this car.

So assuming GM can get cars to the showrooms, why would anyone spend $95k on a Porsche Cayman GTS, with its nifty FOUR CYLINDER lump? Or a Mercedes AMG coupe, or a BMW M-car? An Audi TT? Are you kidding? Jaguar F-Type? How would you like to be Toyota's Supra Product Manager, trying to sell $60 thousand Supra's these days?

Ford has been trying to make the case for the past few years that the high-end Mustangs are "sports cars," and pricing them accordingly. A GT350 for seventy grand? Even Camaro ZL-1's are instantly obsolete - as are remaining C7's, nice as they are. Hellcat Redeye's at $75k and up? Not so fast.

The resale value on C7's has been even better than Corvette's historically good values. The C8's will likely top even that. 60% of MSRP after five years is a reasonable guess.

I realize that people buy certain marques not because the cars are "good," but because they want to be see driving them, but for those sports car buyers who think rationally about it, the only real choice between $50 and 100k is a new C8.

I saw the new Vette at the Monterey Classic Races in August and placed an order. They had a cutaway demonstrator so you could see how they set the engine bay. The thing will be a breeze to work on. Lift it, unscrew four or six bolts (I don't remember what they told me) and the entire engine package drops out for maintenance.

And you need a 25000 dollar computer to diagnose anything

 

[westwall]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995, Chevy/GM has potentially devastated the American sports car market for the foreseeable future. Recent dyno testing indicates that GM's HP and torque figures are way below the actual numbers which are close to 600 in each case. 0-60 times of 2.8 seconds are real.

And lest one forget, the styling of this car, both inside and out are exotic-level, with only true cranks finding any fault with ANYTHING about this car.

So assuming GM can get cars to the showrooms, why would anyone spend $95k on a Porsche Cayman GTS, with its nifty FOUR CYLINDER lump? Or a Mercedes AMG coupe, or a BMW M-car? An Audi TT? Are you kidding? Jaguar F-Type? How would you like to be Toyota's Supra Product Manager, trying to sell $60 thousand Supra's these days?

Ford has been trying to make the case for the past few years that the high-end Mustangs are "sports cars," and pricing them accordingly. A GT350 for seventy grand? Even Camaro ZL-1's are instantly obsolete - as are remaining C7's, nice as they are. Hellcat Redeye's at $75k and up? Not so fast.

The resale value on C7's has been even better than Corvette's historically good values. The C8's will likely top even that. 60% of MSRP after five years is a reasonable guess.

I realize that people buy certain marques not because the cars are "good," but because they want to be see driving them, but for those sports car buyers who think rationally about it, the only real choice between $50 and 100k is a new C8.

I saw the new Vette at the Monterey Classic Races in August and placed an order. They had a cutaway demonstrator so you could see how they set the engine bay. The thing will be a breeze to work on. Lift it, unscrew four or six bolts (I don't remember what they told me) and the entire engine package drops out for maintenance.

And you need a 25000 dollar computer to diagnose anything

No, not really. There are certain maintenance operations that easily accomplished. You would be surprised what's available for diagnostic purposes

 

[Godboy]

Is that just for the muffler, or is it an upgraded exhaust system?

The stock gt sounds like a blackhawk helicopter. The 995 dollar option quiets the car if you so choose. In a vette the quiet exhaust is standard the dual exhaust does the opposite and opens a baffle allowing for less constraint more volume and 5 more horses. So in a gt if you do not want to wake your neighbors you need spend another grand. Ford has the process ass backwards

Oh, I see. If im not mistaken, I believe the Ford GTs in Great Britain have to have the quiet muffler. That might even be for all of Europe.

Then ford can't pull this con there. In the USA ford has determined that all buyers get race car exhaust unless they spend 995 dollars more for a functioning exhaust that will not wake the entire neighborhood. I have no problem with a performance oriented user paying more for an unconstrained exhaust system in a mustang, however forcing the other 75 to 90 percent to fork over another grand for a functioning muffler should be investigated by the NHTSA as a defect.

I had had a GT, I would want it to be loud, but that's just me.

Do you believe that none of your neighbors have the right to sleep? Or that they do not own hammers

Unless its going to be your daily driver, just dont drive it when your neighbors are sleeping, if it bothers you that much.

 

[Frannie]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995, Chevy/GM has potentially devastated the American sports car market for the foreseeable future. Recent dyno testing indicates that GM's HP and torque figures are way below the actual numbers which are close to 600 in each case. 0-60 times of 2.8 seconds are real.

And lest one forget, the styling of this car, both inside and out are exotic-level, with only true cranks finding any fault with ANYTHING about this car.

So assuming GM can get cars to the showrooms, why would anyone spend $95k on a Porsche Cayman GTS, with its nifty FOUR CYLINDER lump? Or a Mercedes AMG coupe, or a BMW M-car? An Audi TT? Are you kidding? Jaguar F-Type? How would you like to be Toyota's Supra Product Manager, trying to sell $60 thousand Supra's these days?

Ford has been trying to make the case for the past few years that the high-end Mustangs are "sports cars," and pricing them accordingly. A GT350 for seventy grand? Even Camaro ZL-1's are instantly obsolete - as are remaining C7's, nice as they are. Hellcat Redeye's at $75k and up? Not so fast.

The resale value on C7's has been even better than Corvette's historically good values. The C8's will likely top even that. 60% of MSRP after five years is a reasonable guess.

I realize that people buy certain marques not because the cars are "good," but because they want to be see driving them, but for those sports car buyers who think rationally about it, the only real choice between $50 and 100k is a new C8.

I saw the new Vette at the Monterey Classic Races in August and placed an order. They had a cutaway demonstrator so you could see how they set the engine bay. The thing will be a breeze to work on. Lift it, unscrew four or six bolts (I don't remember what they told me) and the entire engine package drops out for maintenance.

And you need a 25000 dollar computer to diagnose anything

No, not really. There are certain maintenance operations that easily accomplished. You would be surprised what's available for diagnostic purposes

You are the one who would be surprised.......

With any new BMW the scanner cost 15000 at least and is only sold to BMW dealers so when your bmw throws a basic code you are out of luck. Not sure how a new car that almost no one has seen ranks but the engine is not even viable from below and there is not even room for a jack

 

[Frannie]

The stock gt sounds like a blackhawk helicopter. The 995 dollar option quiets the car if you so choose. In a vette the quiet exhaust is standard the dual exhaust does the opposite and opens a baffle allowing for less constraint more volume and 5 more horses. So in a gt if you do not want to wake your neighbors you need spend another grand. Ford has the process ass backwards

Oh, I see. If im not mistaken, I believe the Ford GTs in Great Britain have to have the quiet muffler. That might even be for all of Europe.

Then ford can't pull this con there. In the USA ford has determined that all buyers get race car exhaust unless they spend 995 dollars more for a functioning exhaust that will not wake the entire neighborhood. I have no problem with a performance oriented user paying more for an unconstrained exhaust system in a mustang, however forcing the other 75 to 90 percent to fork over another grand for a functioning muffler should be investigated by the NHTSA as a defect.

I had had a GT, I would want it to be loud, but that's just me.

Do you believe that none of your neighbors have the right to sleep? Or that they do not own hammers

Unless its going to be your daily driver, just dont drive it when your neighbors are sleeping, if it bothers you that much.

Grow up 90 percent of mustang buyers can not afford another car so it is 90 percent a daily driver. Only perhaps 10 percent use the car for racing and as I said the con artist at ford charge 995 dollars extra for a muffler. It's so retarded that it took me weeks to figure this out because it is irrational

Chevrolet charges extra for the racing exhaust as it should be

 

[Godboy]

Oh, I see. If im not mistaken, I believe the Ford GTs in Great Britain have to have the quiet muffler. That might even be for all of Europe.

Then ford can't pull this con there. In the USA ford has determined that all buyers get race car exhaust unless they spend 995 dollars more for a functioning exhaust that will not wake the entire neighborhood. I have no problem with a performance oriented user paying more for an unconstrained exhaust system in a mustang, however forcing the other 75 to 90 percent to fork over another grand for a functioning muffler should be investigated by the NHTSA as a defect.

I had had a GT, I would want it to be loud, but that's just me.

Do you believe that none of your neighbors have the right to sleep? Or that they do not own hammers

Unless its going to be your daily driver, just dont drive it when your neighbors are sleeping, if it bothers you that much.

Grow up 90 percent of mustang buyers can not afford another car so it is 90 percent a daily driver. Only perhaps 10 percent use the car for racing and as I said the con artist at ford charge 995 dollars extra for a muffler. It's so retarded that it took me weeks to figure this out because it is irrational

Chevrolet charges extra for the racing exhaust as it should be

Who cares about a muffler? Id tell my neighbors to blow me if they had a problem with my street legal car.

 

[Frannie]

Then ford can't pull this con there. In the USA ford has determined that all buyers get race car exhaust unless they spend 995 dollars more for a functioning exhaust that will not wake the entire neighborhood. I have no problem with a performance oriented user paying more for an unconstrained exhaust system in a mustang, however forcing the other 75 to 90 percent to fork over another grand for a functioning muffler should be investigated by the NHTSA as a defect.

I had had a GT, I would want it to be loud, but that's just me.

Do you believe that none of your neighbors have the right to sleep? Or that they do not own hammers

Unless its going to be your daily driver, just dont drive it when your neighbors are sleeping, if it bothers you that much.

Grow up 90 percent of mustang buyers can not afford another car so it is 90 percent a daily driver. Only perhaps 10 percent use the car for racing and as I said the con artist at ford charge 995 dollars extra for a muffler. It's so retarded that it took me weeks to figure this out because it is irrational

Chevrolet charges extra for the racing exhaust as it should be

Who cares about a muffler? Id tell my neighbors to blow me if they had a problem with my street legal car.

What do you tell your neighbor when he sneaks out at night with a hammer and puts the hammer down on your paint and windshield and the rest of the neighborhood cheers him for doing so?

Respect is a 2 way street, you give and you get. A muffler is no more an extra than wipers are. Fords were designed by con artist salesmen rather than engineers......

 

[007]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995,

Ya know darn well the dealers will jack that price up. No way will you find one for $59,995.00 anywhere. I asked my Chevy dealer if they were even getting a C8 and they said NO. They said you can order one, but they're not getting one otherwise.

I bought a new 2017 2SS Camaro with the 6 speed manual. Had it for a year and traded it in. It was fun but had quirks I just did not like. For one, the throttle response wasn't there, meaning that you could try to work the throttle to get the engine revved up to move, but it wouldn't respond. It's a fly by wire throttle and it must be programmed to "smooth out" any small burps you make. I killed the engine a couple times trying to get that Camaro rolling because the electronic throttle wouldn't respond the way a mechanical one would, and the 455hp, 6.2 ltr engine doesn't have a lot of low end torque. The clutch in it was very touchy and was either in or out. There wasn't much of any sort of feathering it, which I don't like to do anyway. So, I had to rev the engine up quite a bit to get rolling or risk killing the engine.

If I bought a new C8 Corvette, and yes, I like to have one, I'd get an automatic trans. In fact, I don't think the C8 is even offered with a manual. Just as well because the automatics are faster than the manuals. Maybe not as fun, but faster. But come to think of it, it might be smart for someone to wait a year of two and let Chevy work the glitches out of the first year of mid engine and buy a later edition

 

[Frannie]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995,

Ya know darn well the dealers will jack that price up. No way will you find one for $59,995.00 anywhere. I asked my Chevy dealer if they were even getting a C8 and they said NO. They said you can order one, but they're not getting one otherwise.

I bought a new 2017 2SS Camaro with the 6 speed manual. Had it for a year and traded it in. It was fun but had quirks I just did not like. For one, the throttle response wasn't there, meaning that you could try to work the throttle to get the engine revved up to move, but it wouldn't respond. It's a fly by wire throttle and it must be programmed to "smooth out" any small burps you make. I killed the engine a couple times trying to get that Camaro rolling because the electronic throttle wouldn't respond the way a mechanical one would, and the 455hp, 6.2 ltr engine doesn't have a lot of low end torque.

If I bought a new C8 Corvette, and yes, I like to have one, I'd get an automatic trans. In fact, I don't think the C8 is even offered with a manual. Just as well because the automatics are faster than the manuals. Maybe not as fun, but faster. But come to think of it, it might be smart for someone to wait a year of two and let Chevy work the glitches out of the first year of mid engine and buy a later edition

Dealers are not in the loop on new vetts, the company sets the price on orders. Dealers are also giving 2019 models away because so many new buyers ordered the 2020

 

[007]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995,

Ya know darn well the dealers will jack that price up. No way will you find one for $59,995.00 anywhere. I asked my Chevy dealer if they were even getting a C8 and they said NO. They said you can order one, but they're not getting one otherwise.

I bought a new 2017 2SS Camaro with the 6 speed manual. Had it for a year and traded it in. It was fun but had quirks I just did not like. For one, the throttle response wasn't there, meaning that you could try to work the throttle to get the engine revved up to move, but it wouldn't respond. It's a fly by wire throttle and it must be programmed to "smooth out" any small burps you make. I killed the engine a couple times trying to get that Camaro rolling because the electronic throttle wouldn't respond the way a mechanical one would, and the 455hp, 6.2 ltr engine doesn't have a lot of low end torque.

If I bought a new C8 Corvette, and yes, I like to have one, I'd get an automatic trans. In fact, I don't think the C8 is even offered with a manual. Just as well because the automatics are faster than the manuals. Maybe not as fun, but faster. But come to think of it, it might be smart for someone to wait a year of two and let Chevy work the glitches out of the first year of mid engine and buy a later edition

Dealers are not in the loop on new vetts, the company sets the price on orders. Dealers are also giving 2019 models away because so many new buyers ordered the 2020

They sure didn't give me my new 2019 Chevy Silverado LTZ. I traded in my 2018 Chevy High Country that was having transmission problems with only 2,900 miles on it, AVOID THE GM 8 SPEED AT ALL COST, and even though the dealer got GM to kick in some extra cash on the deal because of the transmission problems, they still raked me over the coals, but what's new, that's how they make their money. But part of the reason given was my 2018 High Country... WAS THE OLD BODY STYLE.

In any case, I'm very happy with my new 2019 LTZ. It's a rare Max Trailering Package which has many upgraded, heavy duty parts on it and I love it. Has the new 10 speed transmission and it's fantastic. It's a keeper.

 

[Frannie]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995,

Ya know darn well the dealers will jack that price up. No way will you find one for $59,995.00 anywhere. I asked my Chevy dealer if they were even getting a C8 and they said NO. They said you can order one, but they're not getting one otherwise.

I bought a new 2017 2SS Camaro with the 6 speed manual. Had it for a year and traded it in. It was fun but had quirks I just did not like. For one, the throttle response wasn't there, meaning that you could try to work the throttle to get the engine revved up to move, but it wouldn't respond. It's a fly by wire throttle and it must be programmed to "smooth out" any small burps you make. I killed the engine a couple times trying to get that Camaro rolling because the electronic throttle wouldn't respond the way a mechanical one would, and the 455hp, 6.2 ltr engine doesn't have a lot of low end torque.

If I bought a new C8 Corvette, and yes, I like to have one, I'd get an automatic trans. In fact, I don't think the C8 is even offered with a manual. Just as well because the automatics are faster than the manuals. Maybe not as fun, but faster. But come to think of it, it might be smart for someone to wait a year of two and let Chevy work the glitches out of the first year of mid engine and buy a later edition

Dealers are not in the loop on new vetts, the company sets the price on orders. Dealers are also giving 2019 models away because so many new buyers ordered the 2020

They sure didn't give me my new 2019 Chevy Silverado LTZ. I traded in my 2018 Chevy High Country that was having transmissions problems with only 2,900 miles on it, AVOID THE GM 8 SPEED AT ALL COST, and even though the dealer got GM to kick in some extra cash on the deal because of the transmission problems, they still raked me over the coals, but what's new, that's how they make their money. But part of the reason given was my 2018 High Country... WAS THE OLD BODY STYLE.

In any case, I'm very happy with my new 2019 LTZ. It's a rare Max Trailering Package which has many upgraded, heavy duty parts on it, and I love it. Has the new 10 speed transmission and I love it. It's a keeper.

Gm still makes pickups? I haven't noticed

 

[007]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995,

Ya know darn well the dealers will jack that price up. No way will you find one for $59,995.00 anywhere. I asked my Chevy dealer if they were even getting a C8 and they said NO. They said you can order one, but they're not getting one otherwise.

I bought a new 2017 2SS Camaro with the 6 speed manual. Had it for a year and traded it in. It was fun but had quirks I just did not like. For one, the throttle response wasn't there, meaning that you could try to work the throttle to get the engine revved up to move, but it wouldn't respond. It's a fly by wire throttle and it must be programmed to "smooth out" any small burps you make. I killed the engine a couple times trying to get that Camaro rolling because the electronic throttle wouldn't respond the way a mechanical one would, and the 455hp, 6.2 ltr engine doesn't have a lot of low end torque.

If I bought a new C8 Corvette, and yes, I like to have one, I'd get an automatic trans. In fact, I don't think the C8 is even offered with a manual. Just as well because the automatics are faster than the manuals. Maybe not as fun, but faster. But come to think of it, it might be smart for someone to wait a year of two and let Chevy work the glitches out of the first year of mid engine and buy a later edition

Dealers are not in the loop on new vetts, the company sets the price on orders. Dealers are also giving 2019 models away because so many new buyers ordered the 2020

They sure didn't give me my new 2019 Chevy Silverado LTZ. I traded in my 2018 Chevy High Country that was having transmissions problems with only 2,900 miles on it, AVOID THE GM 8 SPEED AT ALL COST, and even though the dealer got GM to kick in some extra cash on the deal because of the transmission problems, they still raked me over the coals, but what's new, that's how they make their money. But part of the reason given was my 2018 High Country... WAS THE OLD BODY STYLE.

In any case, I'm very happy with my new 2019 LTZ. It's a rare Max Trailering Package which has many upgraded, heavy duty parts on it, and I love it. Has the new 10 speed transmission and I love it. It's a keeper.

Gm still makes pickups? I haven't noticed

The only truck I'll buy. I think they were getting a little "stale" up to 2018, but the new body style and the 2019's and all the new improvements they made, like massive struts under the hood for front collision protection, they knocked it out of the park. The 6.2 ltr, 420hp engine is a BEAST, and the new 10 speed transmission, that was a design collaboration between FORD and GM, is a great new transmission. I've owned Chevy trucks since 1975.

 

[Frannie]

With its gorgeous new C8 Corvette base-priced at $59,995,

Ya know darn well the dealers will jack that price up. No way will you find one for $59,995.00 anywhere. I asked my Chevy dealer if they were even getting a C8 and they said NO. They said you can order one, but they're not getting one otherwise.

I bought a new 2017 2SS Camaro with the 6 speed manual. Had it for a year and traded it in. It was fun but had quirks I just did not like. For one, the throttle response wasn't there, meaning that you could try to work the throttle to get the engine revved up to move, but it wouldn't respond. It's a fly by wire throttle and it must be programmed to "smooth out" any small burps you make. I killed the engine a couple times trying to get that Camaro rolling because the electronic throttle wouldn't respond the way a mechanical one would, and the 455hp, 6.2 ltr engine doesn't have a lot of low end torque.

If I bought a new C8 Corvette, and yes, I like to have one, I'd get an automatic trans. In fact, I don't think the C8 is even offered with a manual. Just as well because the automatics are faster than the manuals. Maybe not as fun, but faster. But come to think of it, it might be smart for someone to wait a year of two and let Chevy work the glitches out of the first year of mid engine and buy a later edition

Dealers are not in the loop on new vetts, the company sets the price on orders. Dealers are also giving 2019 models away because so many new buyers ordered the 2020

They sure didn't give me my new 2019 Chevy Silverado LTZ. I traded in my 2018 Chevy High Country that was having transmissions problems with only 2,900 miles on it, AVOID THE GM 8 SPEED AT ALL COST, and even though the dealer got GM to kick in some extra cash on the deal because of the transmission problems, they still raked me over the coals, but what's new, that's how they make their money. But part of the reason given was my 2018 High Country... WAS THE OLD BODY STYLE.

In any case, I'm very happy with my new 2019 LTZ. It's a rare Max Trailering Package which has many upgraded, heavy duty parts on it, and I love it. Has the new 10 speed transmission and I love it. It's a keeper.

Gm still makes pickups? I haven't noticed

The only truck I'll buy. I think they were getting a little "stale" up to 2018, but the new body style and the 2019's and all the new improvements they made, like massive struts under the hood for front collision protection, they knocked it out of the park. The 6.2 ltr, 420hp engine is a BEAST, and the new 10 speed transmission, that was a design collaboration between FORD and GM, is a great new transmission. I've owned Chevy trucks since 1975.

You will not find one good review on that trans not connected to the companies or a dealer

 

[007]

Ya know darn well the dealers will jack that price up. No way will you find one for $59,995.00 anywhere. I asked my Chevy dealer if they were even getting a C8 and they said NO. They said you can order one, but they're not getting one otherwise.

I bought a new 2017 2SS Camaro with the 6 speed manual. Had it for a year and traded it in. It was fun but had quirks I just did not like. For one, the throttle response wasn't there, meaning that you could try to work the throttle to get the engine revved up to move, but it wouldn't respond. It's a fly by wire throttle and it must be programmed to "smooth out" any small burps you make. I killed the engine a couple times trying to get that Camaro rolling because the electronic throttle wouldn't respond the way a mechanical one would, and the 455hp, 6.2 ltr engine doesn't have a lot of low end torque.

If I bought a new C8 Corvette, and yes, I like to have one, I'd get an automatic trans. In fact, I don't think the C8 is even offered with a manual. Just as well because the automatics are faster than the manuals. Maybe not as fun, but faster. But come to think of it, it might be smart for someone to wait a year of two and let Chevy work the glitches out of the first year of mid engine and buy a later edition

Dealers are not in the loop on new vetts, the company sets the price on orders. Dealers are also giving 2019 models away because so many new buyers ordered the 2020

They sure didn't give me my new 2019 Chevy Silverado LTZ. I traded in my 2018 Chevy High Country that was having transmissions problems with only 2,900 miles on it, AVOID THE GM 8 SPEED AT ALL COST, and even though the dealer got GM to kick in some extra cash on the deal because of the transmission problems, they still raked me over the coals, but what's new, that's how they make their money. But part of the reason given was my 2018 High Country... WAS THE OLD BODY STYLE.

In any case, I'm very happy with my new 2019 LTZ. It's a rare Max Trailering Package which has many upgraded, heavy duty parts on it, and I love it. Has the new 10 speed transmission and I love it. It's a keeper.

Gm still makes pickups? I haven't noticed

The only truck I'll buy. I think they were getting a little "stale" up to 2018, but the new body style and the 2019's and all the new improvements they made, like massive struts under the hood for front collision protection, they knocked it out of the park. The 6.2 ltr, 420hp engine is a BEAST, and the new 10 speed transmission, that was a design collaboration between FORD and GM, is a great new transmission. I've owned Chevy trucks since 1975.

You will not find one good review on that trans not connected to the companies or a dealer

What do you mean... "not connected to the companies or a dealer?"

I've seen a few write ups already saying the 10 speed is a huge improvement over the old 8 speed, which was a disaster.

11 Things You Need to Know about Ford & GM’s 10-Speed Transmission | AutoInfluence

 

[Frannie]

Dealers are not in the loop on new vetts, the company sets the price on orders. Dealers are also giving 2019 models away because so many new buyers ordered the 2020

They sure didn't give me my new 2019 Chevy Silverado LTZ. I traded in my 2018 Chevy High Country that was having transmissions problems with only 2,900 miles on it, AVOID THE GM 8 SPEED AT ALL COST, and even though the dealer got GM to kick in some extra cash on the deal because of the transmission problems, they still raked me over the coals, but what's new, that's how they make their money. But part of the reason given was my 2018 High Country... WAS THE OLD BODY STYLE.

In any case, I'm very happy with my new 2019 LTZ. It's a rare Max Trailering Package which has many upgraded, heavy duty parts on it, and I love it. Has the new 10 speed transmission and I love it. It's a keeper.

Gm still makes pickups? I haven't noticed

The only truck I'll buy. I think they were getting a little "stale" up to 2018, but the new body style and the 2019's and all the new improvements they made, like massive struts under the hood for front collision protection, they knocked it out of the park. The 6.2 ltr, 420hp engine is a BEAST, and the new 10 speed transmission, that was a design collaboration between FORD and GM, is a great new transmission. I've owned Chevy trucks since 1975.

You will not find one good review on that trans not connected to the companies or a dealer

What do you mean... "not connected to the companies or a dealer?"

I've seen a few write ups already saying the 10 speed is a huge improvement over the old 8 speed, which was a disaster.

I mean an independent review. By the way you are bragging that a brand new truck is great when the motor is not even broken in after saying that your previous truck was krap.

Type in new 10 speed trans sucks and read the real reviews

 

[Godboy]

I had had a GT, I would want it to be loud, but that's just me.

Do you believe that none of your neighbors have the right to sleep? Or that they do not own hammers

Unless its going to be your daily driver, just dont drive it when your neighbors are sleeping, if it bothers you that much.

Grow up 90 percent of mustang buyers can not afford another car so it is 90 percent a daily driver. Only perhaps 10 percent use the car for racing and as I said the con artist at ford charge 995 dollars extra for a muffler. It's so retarded that it took me weeks to figure this out because it is irrational

Chevrolet charges extra for the racing exhaust as it should be

Who cares about a muffler? Id tell my neighbors to blow me if they had a problem with my street legal car.

What do you tell your neighbor when he sneaks out at night with a hammer and puts the hammer down on your paint and windshield and the rest of the neighborhood cheers him for doing so?

Respect is a 2 way street, you give and you get. A muffler is no more an extra than wipers are. Fords were designed by con artist salesmen rather than engineers......

It sounds like you have awful neighbors. Id move out of there if someone taking a hammer to my car was a possibility.

 

[Pilot1]

Ill get a C7 with a manual transmission in a year or so. I won't drive a performance car with an automatic, and yes I know they are faster, especially with the dual clutch, modern CPU controlled units. That's not my goal as I'm not a track guy, nor street racer.

 

[007]

They sure didn't give me my new 2019 Chevy Silverado LTZ. I traded in my 2018 Chevy High Country that was having transmissions problems with only 2,900 miles on it, AVOID THE GM 8 SPEED AT ALL COST, and even though the dealer got GM to kick in some extra cash on the deal because of the transmission problems, they still raked me over the coals, but what's new, that's how they make their money. But part of the reason given was my 2018 High Country... WAS THE OLD BODY STYLE.

In any case, I'm very happy with my new 2019 LTZ. It's a rare Max Trailering Package which has many upgraded, heavy duty parts on it, and I love it. Has the new 10 speed transmission and I love it. It's a keeper.

Gm still makes pickups? I haven't noticed

The only truck I'll buy. I think they were getting a little "stale" up to 2018, but the new body style and the 2019's and all the new improvements they made, like massive struts under the hood for front collision protection, they knocked it out of the park. The 6.2 ltr, 420hp engine is a BEAST, and the new 10 speed transmission, that was a design collaboration between FORD and GM, is a great new transmission. I've owned Chevy trucks since 1975.

You will not find one good review on that trans not connected to the companies or a dealer

What do you mean... "not connected to the companies or a dealer?"

I've seen a few write ups already saying the 10 speed is a huge improvement over the old 8 speed, which was a disaster.

I mean an independent review. By the way you are bragging that a brand new truck is great when the motor is not even broken in after saying that your previous truck was krap.

Type in new 10 speed trans sucks and read the real reviews

New engines have no "break in" period, and I didn't say my previous truck was crap, I said the transmission was.

You can find some sour apples review about literally anything on the planet. There is always going to be someone bitch, and even for reasons that have nothing to do with what it is they're supposed to be reviewing. I take reviews with a grain of salt, and usually want to base my opinion of something on first hand experience with it, which I have done, and you consider bragging...

11 Things You Need to Know about Ford & GM’s 10-Speed Transmission | AutoInfluence

 

[Erinwltr]

I'll likely buy a C6 at some point. That's basically the last Corvette generation that actually looks like a Corvette. They'll definitely drop in price when the C8 comes out. For now my C4 serves me fine. No way I'd pay what they're asking for the C8. It doesn't even look like a Corvette anymore. Looks like a Transformer. Same with the C7, it doesn't look like a Corvette anymore either.

Besides, the speed limit is 55 and 65 on I-95. 35 and 45 on most all other local roads. What good is all of that HP when everybody knows Corvettes are magnets for officer friendly? I prefer to just cruise the winding back roads anyway, I'm not out there trying to race people or to be the first car out of the red light or to pick up gold diggers at Wally World.

And here's the other thing. Everybody always asks how much you paid for it. The real question nobody ever asks is how much is costs to own a Corvette. You're paying three to four times what everyone else is paying for maintenance/parts/repair, etc, for no other reason than the fact that it's a Corvette. And fuel? Pffft. Don't even think about putting cheap gas in it. That's just asking for trouble. I'm paying $3.19 and up per gallon for BP Ultimate non-ethanol 98-100 octane every single fillup.

And they're not even daily drivers. Park it at work 5 days a week and watch how many dings it ends up with from other people banging their doors into it. You're really only driving them on weekends and at best 6-7 months out of the year, if you live anywhere that sees winter weather.

"It doesn't even look like a Corvette anymore. Looks like a Transformer." I swear my exact same thought as well when I read about the new mid-engine Vette in MT.