What happened to TRUE bi-partanship?

As an example of how the parties differ and have no common ground,
I can list more policies that we can never agree on:
Open Borders and lax immigration policies, build the wall, tear the wall down
Hispanics called Obama the "deporter in chief". You've bought a bill of goods. The wall was Trump's idea and Trump's alone. It got zero support from other lawmakers because its' a stupid idea. It is popular with his base--the same people who think professional wrestling is real.
Defund the police, we disagree
Yeah, the democrats lost the branding war on that one. What is most often meant is to not send the cops after every minor infraction that often ends up in a confrontational atmosphere. But in this sounbyte world; they shortened it to "defund the police". It was stupid.
Russia First Energy policies (approve Nord Stream 2, but kill KeystoneXL, then ask Russia to pump more oil, WTF?)
Nobody has a "Russia first policy" Again, you're spewing nonsense.
Lax Military posture, look at the AFG catastrophe, Xiden still thinks he did good???
Trump withdrew troops to 2500 soldiers...and didn't attack the Taliban (in a big way) for years. Yeah...unbelieveably when we finally pulled out; the Taliban was at full strength.
The Green New Deal, wasting $trillions
You're right. You guys don't think climate change is real...meanwhile every reputable scientist on the planet does. No common ground there.
"Wokeness"
Whatever that is.
Support of criminals, no bail, etc.
Amazingly something like 25-30 states have GOP governors. They are elected by the same people who elect the judges or appoint them themselves. And yet none of these folks are ever held accountable for crime in their state. You're spewing nonsense about one party "supporting criminals"
Reprogrammed US education system: Critical Race Theory vs Traditional/Family Values
Meanwhile back in reality...your "family values" cult leader paid off porn stars to have sex with him.
Oppose school vouchers, we support school vouchers
Local issue.
China First trade policies, Hunter gets $$$$
Oh lord. Trump had his shit made in China. Hunter? Really?
Outsourcing jobs by taxing corporations so much they relocate
Trump outsourced his shit made in china shit brains. Perhaps you should pick another idol.
HR-1 grab for one-party rule, never happen
huh?
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever
This is a big issue?
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote, never happen
This is a big issue?
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.
*eyeroll*...yeah; you've swallowed every idiotic talking point... When you come back to earth; perhaps we can talk about finding common ground again.
 
Bi-partisanship is dead. There is just too much baggage and policy differences between the parties to agree on anything. Just look at the southern border as an example. The GOP wants to control immigration and the democrats want open borders because they think they can win elections with millions of new democrat voters. So we will ping-pong policies going forward, whoever wins elections will re-write the laws and Exec Orders.
Build the wall, tear down the wall, build the wall, tear down the wall.....
We have no good immigration policy's coming from either side.
The reason you state that Dems want open borders ( do the majority of liberals want open borders?) could they really think they would get millions of new voters? makes little sense. Could you explain how the non citizens/are that interested in politics? or that all of them even hold the same views? many are anti abortion.
 
We have no good immigration policy's coming from either side.
The reason you state that Dems want open borders ( do the majority of liberals want open borders?) could they really think they would get millions of new voters? makes little sense. Could you explain how the non citizens/are that interested in politics? or that all of them even hold the same views? many are anti abortion.

Did you see this?

"Reform California" chairman Carl DeMaio on Saturday criticized California Gov. Gavin Newsom's signing of a bill that allows some illegal immigrants to serve on county central committees -- one of a number of bills signed to benefit those who entered the country illegally.

"These bills are not just symbolic wokeness, this is a fundamental redefinition of who gets to be elected to office in California, and they're starting small but this is absolutely the first step," DeMaio told Fox News.

The bill, was one of a number of bills that Newsom’s office described as "expanding the state’s humane immigration policies by protections and support for immigrants" and included a law ending the use of "alien" to describe non-citizens.

Included was a bill that amends California election code to allow what Newsom's office described as "aspiring citizens" to be appointed and elected members in a county central committee. Proponents have specifically mentioned "DREAMers" or recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (DACA) -- which protected illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children from deportation.

The bill says it will "permit a person who is not a United States citizen, but who would be eligible to register to vote if the person were a United States citizen, to serve as a member of the committee."

Those committees are governing bodies of county parties and involves budgetary matters and other business at county level for those parties.



So, non-US citizens will be making decisions about taxes and spending and other business? Are you fucking kidding me?
 
You’ve been brainwashed to think the Left wants open borders just like your wingnut opponents have been brainwashed to think all on the right are racist. I know many on the left that support border security. Obama did a lot for border security. Certainly not open borders. Wake up, you’ve fallen deep in their trap. Don’t be a puppet
Use your eyes before using your fingers:
1. The borders are open, Xiden is a democrat (Trump had it sealed tight)
2. What "trap"? Ease up on the drugs.
 
We have no good immigration policy's coming from either side.
The reason you state that Dems want open borders ( do the majority of liberals want open borders?) could they really think they would get millions of new voters? makes little sense. Could you explain how the non citizens/are that interested in politics? or that all of them even hold the same views? many are anti abortion.
1. I like Trump's "merit based" immigration, not Xiden's open borders.
2. Yes the dems do think that they are letting in millions of new democrat voters, just as soon as they can make "amnesty" happen. Makes perfect sense for those slimy ___________.
3. Lower incomes are predominately democrats, after a few decades and they make middle class then they will become GOP voters, like Miami shocked the dems in 2020.
 
Use your eyes before using your fingers:
1. The borders are open, Xiden is a democrat (Trump had it sealed tight)
2. What "trap"? Ease up on the drugs.
By what metric are you using to say Trump had it sealed tight? Have you actually looked at the numbers? Go ahead and post those stats so we can review please.

Also, by what metric are you using to say the borders are open? Because last I check Border patrol was chasing people down on horseback and thousands were camped out along what looked like a border barrier, and loads of people were being deported.

you see why I laugh when you make dumb statements like those and then tell me to open my eyes. Come on man, you’re not even close
 
Hispanics called Obama the "deporter in chief". You've bought a bill of goods. The wall was Trump's idea and Trump's alone. It got zero support from other lawmakers because its' a stupid idea. It is popular with his base--the same people who think professional wrestling is real.

Yeah, the democrats lost the branding war on that one. What is most often meant is to not send the cops after every minor infraction that often ends up in a confrontational atmosphere. But in this soundbyte world; they shortened it to "defund the police". It was stupid.

Nobody has a "Russia first policy" Again, you're spewing nonsense.

Trump withdrew troops to 2500 soldiers...and didn't attack the Taliban (in a big way) for years. Yeah...unbelievably when we finally pulled out; the Taliban was at full strength.

You're right. You guys don't think climate change is real...meanwhile every reputable scientist on the planet does. No common ground there.

Whatever that is.

Amazingly something like 25-30 states have GOP governors. They are elected by the same people who elect the judges or appoint them themselves. And yet none of these folks are ever held accountable for crime in their state. You're spewing nonsense about one party "supporting criminals"

Meanwhile back in reality...your "family values" cult leader paid off porn stars to have sex with him.

Local issue.

Oh lord. Trump had his shit made in China. Hunter? Really?

Trump outsourced his shit made in china shit brains. Perhaps you should pick another idol.

huh?

This is a big issue?

This is a big issue?

*eyeroll*...yeah; you've swallowed every idiotic talking point... When you come back to earth; perhaps we can talk about finding common ground again.
1. The Border Patrol loves the wall because it works. The others you mentioned love the cheap labor while lowering everyone's wages. Great democrat policy!! LOWER WAGES!!!!

2. We agree defunding the police is stupid, many dems still want them defunded, don't make me post links.

3. Xiden approved the Nord Stream 2 pipeline to give Putin $$$$$ to modernize his military while killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, then he begs Putin to pump more oil because his stupid energy policies are raising gas prices. Xiden is a moron, unless you consider the $millions from the Moscow mayor's wife to Hunter. Xiden is Putin's Whore.

4. Trump had a "conditions based" withdrawal from AFG. Xiden surrendered. See the difference?

5. Not EVERY scientist believes global warming is a US problem, at most, the US is only 15% of the "global" problem, so wasting $trillions on the "Green New Deal" will NOT solve the global problem. Look where the problem is...CHINA and INDIA.

6. Republicans are the party of "Law and Order", democrats are the party that coddles criminals.

7. Trump can pay sex workers if he wants to, so what? That has nothing to do with teaching CRT in schools. CRT will be a big issue in 2022 and 2024.
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Karen is worth every penny, I'm sure she earned it!!

8. Hunter got $1,500,000,000 from China to "invest". How many ties did Trump have made there?

There are very few policies that the GOP and dems can agree on.
 
You’ve been brainwashed to think the Left wants open borders just like your wingnut opponents have been brainwashed to think all on the right are racist. I know many on the left that support border security. Obama did a lot for border security. Certainly not open borders. Wake up, you’ve fallen deep in their trap. Don’t be a puppet
"We swear, we don’t want ‘open borders’, we just don’t want a wall to divide us from Mexico, we want anyone who says the word "asylum" to be set free among the American public, we want to provide illegals with safe havens, we want to give illegals the right to drive, we want to provide them with free education and healthcare, we want to abolish iCE, we want a pathway to citizenship for the 20-40 million illegals here now, we want the 1.7 million DACA ‘kids’ gifted a form of citizenship and we want all Mexicans to be able to become citizens without all the red tape....but, but, but....we swear, we don’t want open borders."

You people can not continue selling your bullshit...Nobody sane is buying it.
 
"We swear, we don’t want ‘open borders’, we just don’t want a wall to divide us from Mexico, we want anyone who says the word "asylum" to be set free among the American public, we want to provide illegals with safe havens, we want to give illegals the right to drive, we want to provide them with free education and healthcare, we want to abolish iCE, we want a pathway to citizenship for the 20-40 million illegals here now, we want the 1.7 million DACA ‘kids’ gifted a form of citizenship and we want all Mexicans to be able to become citizens without all the red tape....but, but, but....we swear, we don’t want open borders."

You people can not continue selling your bullshit...Nobody sane is buying it.
Yeah see those or just more lies so I don’t know what to do with that. I can spout out a bunch of lies and hyperbole too but what’s the point?! The shit you’re saying simply isnt reality
 
You’ve been brainwashed to think the Left wants open borders just like your wingnut opponents have been brainwashed to think all on the right are racist. I know many on the left that support border security. Obama did a lot for border security. Certainly not open borders. Wake up, you’ve fallen deep in their trap. Don’t be a puppet
what a crock of complete shit. the border is open right fucking now, and whose running the country? DEMS that's who. So tell that nonsense to people stupid enough to believe it.
 
what a crock of complete shit. the border is open right fucking now, and whose running the country? DEMS that's who. So tell that nonsense to people stupid enough to believe it.
Its open? Do we not have security guards patrolling the border? Are there not checkpoints all over the place? Is ICE still an agency or not? Are there not deportations going on? Stop lying when it is so damn easy to prove you wrong.

Are you going to double down on your stupid and claim that stories like the one below are complete lies? If so, I can go right to the source and prove you wrong again... So what is it, is the below story a lie?

 
Its open? Do we not have security guards patrolling the border? Are there not checkpoints all over the place? Is ICE still an agency or not? Are there not deportations going on? Stop lying when it is so damn easy to prove you wrong.

Are you going to double down on your stupid and claim that stories like the one below are complete lies? If so, I can go right to the source and prove you wrong again... So what is it, is the below story a lie?

The fucking ICE is practicing catch and release INTO US cities, dumb shit!
 
You’ve been brainwashed to think the Left wants open borders just like your wingnut opponents have been brainwashed to think all on the right are racist. I know many on the left that support border security. Obama did a lot for border security. Certainly not open borders. Wake up, you’ve fallen deep in their trap. Don’t be a puppet
Furthermore President Joe is keeping many of the same policies on the border "The Don" had as well.
 
Furthermore President Joe is keeping many of the same policies on the border "The Don" had as well.
I’m sure he is as policy is often influenced by need and through consulting with those on the front lines. There is obviously the political angle as well but at the core of most things there is are operational elements and needs that drive policy
 
1. The borders are open, Xiden is a democrat (Trump had it sealed tight)
The borders were also open while Trumpybear was president.

Trumpybear's border emergency was declared at a time when illegal immigration was at it's lowest point in 50 years. The faithful trumpy-goobers, gobbled it up like they gobbled up the lies about our election integrity.
 
Back in the 80's, President Regan (republican) and Tip O'Neal (democrat & majority whip) would leave contentiousness outside the the capitol steps and socialize, and have lunch together frequently. We lost that, and I miss that. I know it sounds pat, but...united we stand, divided we fall.
Given this posters previous posts..."it" is the LAST perspon that wants bi-partisanship
 

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