What happened to the tea party?

White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.

Race had nothing to do with it numb nuts....

Tea Party is still there...but it was a choice between Trump and Hilary....hilary, a criminal who used her public office for personal gain, and a desire to destroy the country...that left Trump. We have to put up with the spending, which would have been even worse under hilary, and try to get a conservative in office. Between the two, hilary or Trump there was no choice, we had to pick Trump...
If they were truly against deficits they would be protesting now. Increasing deficits during a strong economy as bad as it gets.


Moron, they are.....Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, they all railed against these deficits.....we don't like them.....Trump is not a fiscal conservative, but he sure as S**t isn't hilary, the career criminal and America hating witch.......

When we have a real conservative who can beat the democrats we will vote for them.
 
The Tea Party didn’t form until after Bush was out of office.

The debt is way to high and neither party really cares and the debt continuing to grow after each President since Coolidge is proof of that.
Why was it after Bush? Bush went from a balanced budget to huge deficits. Should have started under bush if they had really cared...

I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.
 
The Tea Party didn’t form until after Bush was out of office.

The debt is way to high and neither party really cares and the debt continuing to grow after each President since Coolidge is proof of that.
Why was it after Bush? Bush went from a balanced budget to huge deficits. Should have started under bush if they had really cared...

I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.
Citizens united sure is a disaster.
 
White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.

Race had nothing to do with it numb nuts....

Tea Party is still there...but it was a choice between Trump and Hilary....hilary, a criminal who used her public office for personal gain, and a desire to destroy the country...that left Trump. We have to put up with the spending, which would have been even worse under hilary, and try to get a conservative in office. Between the two, hilary or Trump there was no choice, we had to pick Trump...
If they were truly against deficits they would be protesting now. Increasing deficits during a strong economy as bad as it gets.


Moron, they are.....Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, they all railed against these deficits.....we don't like them.....Trump is not a fiscal conservative, but he sure as S**t isn't hilary, the career criminal and America hating witch.......

When we have a real conservative who can beat the democrats we will vote for them.
Trump and every republican you mean. Congress could stop the spending, but haven't. Republicans are not fiscally responsible. Same goes for dems. We need a real party which isn't corrupt.
 
White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.

Race had nothing to do with it numb nuts....

Tea Party is still there...but it was a choice between Trump and Hilary....hilary, a criminal who used her public office for personal gain, and a desire to destroy the country...that left Trump. We have to put up with the spending, which would have been even worse under hilary, and try to get a conservative in office. Between the two, hilary or Trump there was no choice, we had to pick Trump...
If they were truly against deficits they would be protesting now. Increasing deficits during a strong economy as bad as it gets.


Moron, they are.....Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, they all railed against these deficits.....we don't like them.....Trump is not a fiscal conservative, but he sure as S**t isn't hilary, the career criminal and America hating witch.......

When we have a real conservative who can beat the democrats we will vote for them.
Trump and every republican you mean. Congress could stop the spending, but haven't. Republicans are not fiscally responsible. Same goes for dems. We need a real party which isn't corrupt.


Conservatives are fiscally responsible...Republicans are a political party. The two are not always the same.....

The democrats buy votes...they don't care about the future, history, or an economic crash, as long as they get power......this is how they do it in every country the left controls...
 
Why was it after Bush? Bush went from a balanced budget to huge deficits. Should have started under bush if they had really cared...

I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.
Citizens united sure is a disaster.


Yes....just look at how Trump outspent hilary and beat her because he spent more......oh, that's right, he spent about 1/3 what she spent and still won.......
 
White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.

Race had nothing to do with it numb nuts....

Tea Party is still there...but it was a choice between Trump and Hilary....hilary, a criminal who used her public office for personal gain, and a desire to destroy the country...that left Trump. We have to put up with the spending, which would have been even worse under hilary, and try to get a conservative in office. Between the two, hilary or Trump there was no choice, we had to pick Trump...
If they were truly against deficits they would be protesting now. Increasing deficits during a strong economy as bad as it gets.


Moron, they are.....Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, they all railed against these deficits.....we don't like them.....Trump is not a fiscal conservative, but he sure as S**t isn't hilary, the career criminal and America hating witch.......

When we have a real conservative who can beat the democrats we will vote for them.
Trump and every republican you mean. Congress could stop the spending, but haven't. Republicans are not fiscally responsible. Same goes for dems. We need a real party which isn't corrupt.


Conservatives are fiscally responsible...Republicans are a political party. The two are not always the same.....

The democrats buy votes...they don't care about the future, history, or an economic crash, as long as they get power......this is how they do it in every country the left controls...
Citizens united that you love made it much easier to buy politicians. You love corruption.

Then there are no conservatives. They are a joke like the tea party.
 
I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.
Citizens united sure is a disaster.


Yes....just look at how Trump outspent hilary and beat her because he spent more......oh, that's right, he spent about 1/3 what she spent and still won.......
Look at how much is spent for a job that pays so little. You must be blind.
 
Race had nothing to do with it numb nuts....

Tea Party is still there...but it was a choice between Trump and Hilary....hilary, a criminal who used her public office for personal gain, and a desire to destroy the country...that left Trump. We have to put up with the spending, which would have been even worse under hilary, and try to get a conservative in office. Between the two, hilary or Trump there was no choice, we had to pick Trump...
If they were truly against deficits they would be protesting now. Increasing deficits during a strong economy as bad as it gets.


Moron, they are.....Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, they all railed against these deficits.....we don't like them.....Trump is not a fiscal conservative, but he sure as S**t isn't hilary, the career criminal and America hating witch.......

When we have a real conservative who can beat the democrats we will vote for them.
Trump and every republican you mean. Congress could stop the spending, but haven't. Republicans are not fiscally responsible. Same goes for dems. We need a real party which isn't corrupt.


Conservatives are fiscally responsible...Republicans are a political party. The two are not always the same.....

The democrats buy votes...they don't care about the future, history, or an economic crash, as long as they get power......this is how they do it in every country the left controls...
Citizens united that you love made it much easier to buy politicians. You love corruption.

Then there are no conservatives. They are a joke like the tea party.


No it didn't....those politicians are going to be bought...what it allowed is the ability of outsiders to actually get elected......this is why the establishment politicians like hilary and mccain hated it....
 
Why was it after Bush? Bush went from a balanced budget to huge deficits. Should have started under bush if they had really cared...

I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.
 
The Tea Party didn’t form until after Bush was out of office.

The debt is way to high and neither party really cares and the debt continuing to grow after each President since Coolidge is proof of that.
Why was it after Bush? Bush went from a balanced budget to huge deficits. Should have started under bush if they had really cared...

I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.

Both sides are not the problem.

Name every President that has increased the National Debt and their party affiliation. No one either side is serious about reducing the debt. We have tons of history as proof. It’s okay I understand it’s tough to accept blame.
 
I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.
 
If they were truly against deficits they would be protesting now. Increasing deficits during a strong economy as bad as it gets.


Moron, they are.....Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, they all railed against these deficits.....we don't like them.....Trump is not a fiscal conservative, but he sure as S**t isn't hilary, the career criminal and America hating witch.......

When we have a real conservative who can beat the democrats we will vote for them.
Trump and every republican you mean. Congress could stop the spending, but haven't. Republicans are not fiscally responsible. Same goes for dems. We need a real party which isn't corrupt.


Conservatives are fiscally responsible...Republicans are a political party. The two are not always the same.....

The democrats buy votes...they don't care about the future, history, or an economic crash, as long as they get power......this is how they do it in every country the left controls...
Citizens united that you love made it much easier to buy politicians. You love corruption.

Then there are no conservatives. They are a joke like the tea party.


No it didn't....those politicians are going to be bought...what it allowed is the ability of outsiders to actually get elected......this is why the establishment politicians like hilary and mccain hated it....
And we have deficit Donald now. Great.
 
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.
 
No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.
No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.

Citizens United became a free speech issue because of the limitations the FEC wanted to place on the distribution of a movie called Hillary. McCain-Feingold bill opened a Pandora’s box and this is where we are. I don’t think McCain or Feingold knew what the hell the bill would result in and ignored warnings from Constitutional lawyers that it could have part overturned and it would be worse for America. Their warnings were sound and McCain and Feingold were really stupid as were those that voted for and supported it, including Bush. Just a really dumb bill that hurt all of America. Just stupid politicians doing what they do, screw up America.
 
Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.
Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.

Citizens United became a free speech issue because of the limitations the FEC wanted to place on the distribution of a movie called Hillary. McCain-Feingold bill opened a Pandora’s box and this is where we are. I don’t think McCain or Feingold knew what the hell the bill would result in and ignored warnings from Constitutional lawyers that it could have part overturned and it would be worse for America. Their warnings were sound and McCain and Feingold were really stupid as were those that voted for and supported it, including Bush. Just a really dumb bill that hurt all of America. Just stupid politicians doing what they do, screw up America.

In June 2008, the section of the act known as the "millionaire's amendment" was overturned by the Supreme Court in Davis v. Federal Election Commission.[15] This provision had attempted to "equalize" campaigns by providing that the legal limit on contributions would increase for a candidate who was substantially outspent by an opposing candidate using personal wealth. In 2008 one of the cosponsors of the legislation, Senator John McCain of Arizona, touted this piece of legislation and others that he sponsored in his bid for the presidency.[16] Senator McCain consistently voiced concern over campaign practices and their funding. "'Questions of honor are raised as much by appearances as by reality in politics, and because they incite public distrust, they need to be addressed no less directly than we would address evidence of expressly illegal corruption,' McCain wrote in his 2002 memoir Worth the Fighting For. 'By the time I became a leading advocate of campaign finance reform, I had come to appreciate that the public's suspicions were not always mistaken. Money does buy access in Washington, and access increases influence that often results in benefiting the few at the expense of the many.

You just want the few.
 
Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.
Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.

Citizens United became a free speech issue because of the limitations the FEC wanted to place on the distribution of a movie called Hillary. McCain-Feingold bill opened a Pandora’s box and this is where we are. I don’t think McCain or Feingold knew what the hell the bill would result in and ignored warnings from Constitutional lawyers that it could have part overturned and it would be worse for America. Their warnings were sound and McCain and Feingold were really stupid as were those that voted for and supported it, including Bush. Just a really dumb bill that hurt all of America. Just stupid politicians doing what they do, screw up America.

In June 2008, the section of the act known as the "millionaire's amendment" was overturned by the Supreme Court in Davis v. Federal Election Commission.[15] This provision had attempted to "equalize" campaigns by providing that the legal limit on contributions would increase for a candidate who was substantially outspent by an opposing candidate using personal wealth. In 2008 one of the cosponsors of the legislation, Senator John McCain of Arizona, touted this piece of legislation and others that he sponsored in his bid for the presidency.[16] Senator McCain consistently voiced concern over campaign practices and their funding. "'Questions of honor are raised as much by appearances as by reality in politics, and because they incite public distrust, they need to be addressed no less directly than we would address evidence of expressly illegal corruption,' McCain wrote in his 2002 memoir Worth the Fighting For. 'By the time I became a leading advocate of campaign finance reform, I had come to appreciate that the public's suspicions were not always mistaken. Money does buy access in Washington, and access increases influence that often results in benefiting the few at the expense of the many.

You just want the few.

McCain might have meant well however he screwed up royally. Without McCain-Feingold, there would never have been a Citizens United.

The Real Reason Hillary Clinton Wants To Overturn 'Citizens United'
 
I have no idea, do you? I really liked the Tea Party idea, it never went anywhere.

Since Coolidge we have added debt, the party didn't matter and yet everyone continues to vote for the two parties that keep increasing debt. One would think the public would brighten up and realize what we are doing is not working and change our voting habits. I have had those on this board that our debt doesn't matter, if that is really the case then why tax to begin with?
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.


Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.


They already were...what it actually allows is someone without any money, the money incumbent politicians get in all manner of ways, to get enough money to actually mount a campaign.....the reason the politicians hate it, is they want to keep out the competition.....their being in office gives them all the advantages against any normal person who tries to run, who has no money, and stands little chance of breaking through. If I am rich, and I like what a new guy has to say....I can now help him get the funding he needs to actually run....quit his day job, staff up, get offices and advertising......

Meanwhile, with spending limits....the politician in office makes appearances as part of his job he doesn't have to pay for, already has an office staff and an established machine and all sorts of money coming in that is off the books...

Citizens United is one of the great tools for freedom of speech for the little guy.
 
Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.
Citizens United was the right decision.....if you think allowing politicians to set limits on campaign spending is done for the benefit of people challenging them for their seats, you are nuts....Citizens United allows people to actually donate to campaigns.... anything else is simply an incumbent insurance policy which is why they all supported blocking it...including hilary and all the other democrats.

The Citizens United decision allows corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money and increased dark money by the 1%.

The ruling now makes our politicians into fundraisers.

Yep, blame the McCain- Feingold bill that led to the Citizen’s United. That was predicted by Constitutional lawyers before it was passed. McCain and Feingold really screwed America.

That is laughable. Republic pols wanting to keep their corporate/wealthy donor money advantage led to the decision.

Citizens United became a free speech issue because of the limitations the FEC wanted to place on the distribution of a movie called Hillary. McCain-Feingold bill opened a Pandora’s box and this is where we are. I don’t think McCain or Feingold knew what the hell the bill would result in and ignored warnings from Constitutional lawyers that it could have part overturned and it would be worse for America. Their warnings were sound and McCain and Feingold were really stupid as were those that voted for and supported it, including Bush. Just a really dumb bill that hurt all of America. Just stupid politicians doing what they do, screw up America.

In June 2008, the section of the act known as the "millionaire's amendment" was overturned by the Supreme Court in Davis v. Federal Election Commission.[15] This provision had attempted to "equalize" campaigns by providing that the legal limit on contributions would increase for a candidate who was substantially outspent by an opposing candidate using personal wealth. In 2008 one of the cosponsors of the legislation, Senator John McCain of Arizona, touted this piece of legislation and others that he sponsored in his bid for the presidency.[16] Senator McCain consistently voiced concern over campaign practices and their funding. "'Questions of honor are raised as much by appearances as by reality in politics, and because they incite public distrust, they need to be addressed no less directly than we would address evidence of expressly illegal corruption,' McCain wrote in his 2002 memoir Worth the Fighting For. 'By the time I became a leading advocate of campaign finance reform, I had come to appreciate that the public's suspicions were not always mistaken. Money does buy access in Washington, and access increases influence that often results in benefiting the few at the expense of the many.

You just want the few.


Mccain was an establishment politician who knew that being in office gives him all the edge he needs over someone on the outside.......that is why he and every other asshat politician wants limits on campaign spending....then, they will make appearances on t.v. in their role as office holder, they already have staff, they already have people giving them money in all sorts of ways, they get free t.v., free appearances, and the biggest.....name recognition.......

All of those advantages would not be off set by spending limits....especially against a normal person trying to run against them...


There was no virtue in what he did...he was a hack seeking to make it hard if not impossible for outsiders and normal people to run for office...
 
It is clear they cared more about being republican than they did the debt. Party over country...

No different than the Democrats, I really have no use for either party. We need a third party that works for the average American, not Wall St.


Wall street will co-op any 3rd party. The problem lays in two things, first the Citizens United decision by a conservative court pushed by conservative fronting for Wall St. Second, the dumbing down of the republic party to basic stupidity.
Citizens united sure is a disaster.


Yes....just look at how Trump outspent hilary and beat her because he spent more......oh, that's right, he spent about 1/3 what she spent and still won.......
Look at how much is spent for a job that pays so little. You must be blind.

No...you are the blind troll.....

Those same greedy politicians you just described......you really think that they would limit their ability to stay in office? That somehow the campaign finance limits that they champion are geared to hurt themselves.....? You really thing that? You are the fool...not me.
 

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