What happened to the tea party?

[IM2]

Once Obama left office, Fox News stopped advocating for Tea Party causes

The movement went away

The Tea Party is now MAGA.

This is true, for the most part.

It's the same groups of what I have found to be, generally (definitely not always), good people who are simply dissatisfied and want to stop irresponsible, out-of-control bullshit in D.C. They get a bad wrap because there are racist assholes among them. They do themselves a huge disservice because they are SILENT and look the other way when Trump spends like a teenage socialite with a credit card. It looks like they are being racists because they squealed like stuck pigs when Obama did the same or even less spending.

For the most part, I will give the majority the benefit of the doubt and chalk that up to partisan dumbfuckery and tribalism (R v. D), rather than racism, but I acknowledge that some of those fuckers would never be satisfied with a black president (a/k/a they are racist assholes).

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Fair enough. I'll accept this assessment from you. But not from some of the others because they represent the racism you talk about in your post.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The bottom line of the OP is that most true conservatives have disappeared. Most of our posters who claim to be conservatives, are simply not conservatives, just anti-Democrats.
This tidbit from the OP is a economic truism:
Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.
And what do Little Trumpsters claim to be? Conservatives.
In reality, they are simply gullible goose-steppers to a none conservative ideology, that spends like a drunken sailor..

I agree. Conservatism has been hijacked by idiots who have no understanding of what conservatism is. This started imo with Newt Gingrich.

I believe it started with Reagan (spend-thrift racist motherfucker). But, Gingrich was the architect of the "neocon" (aka right-wing statist warhawks feeding the crony military/industrial complex).

 

[IM2]

Once Obama left office, Fox News stopped advocating for Tea Party causes

The movement went away

The Tea Party is now MAGA.

You promote the rape of children.

No I don't and you've been reported for violating a forum rule.

 

[IM2]

The bottom line of the OP is that most true conservatives have disappeared. Most of our posters who claim to be conservatives, are simply not conservatives, just anti-Democrats.
This tidbit from the OP is a economic truism:
Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.
And what do Little Trumpsters claim to be? Conservatives.
In reality, they are simply gullible goose-steppers to a none conservative ideology, that spends like a drunken sailor..

I agree. Conservatism has been hijacked by idiots who have no understanding of what conservatism is. This started imo with Newt Gingrich.

I believe it started with Reagan (spend-thrift racist motherfucker). But, Gingrich was the architect of the "neocon" (aka right-wing statist warhawks feeding the crony military/industrial complex).

I agree. I was trying to be nice.

 

[bendog]

Once Obama left office, Fox News stopped advocating for Tea Party causes

The movement went away

The Tea Party is now MAGA.

Well, Progressive Hunter had a point. I agree with RW that the TP was just a .1% funded amalgamation of any group opposed to Obama, and specifically Obamacare. Some were older mostly whites who feared, not unreasonably, that opening up single payer would make medicare less responsive to seniors. Some were essentially old racists who feared giving anything to younger generations that are less white. Some were just deluded fools who opposed any new gummit program, when the reality is that those of us who have employer sponsored aren't so much better than those who don't, but rather we just make enough in industries with profits that benefit from the tax break employers ALREADY had from providing HC, and treatment for indigents was just passed on to our insurance anyway, i.e. it was trading dollars.

And some were Von Mises types who are more or less inconsistent libertarians.

I agree with IM2 that the teaparty itself is now MAGA. An econ progressive party for the benefit of nativists and racists, but who seem unable to notice when Trump cuts foodstamps for families of 4 making less than $35K messes primarily with working poor whites.

 

[SAYIT]

Once Obama left office, Fox News stopped advocating for Tea Party causes. The movement went away

The Tea Party is now MAGA.

And nothing infuriates our bitter leftards like even the thought of doing so except our flag, our anthem, our Pledge of Allegiance, the gov't, the people, the constitution, the Founding Fathers, the history, the weather, Israel, Jews, unborn babies, ...

Traitors ... every stinking lefty.

 

[Uncensored2008]

FoxNews turned off the Teaparty as soon as Obama left office

Oh, well that explains Trump, you fucking mindless troll....

What does Trump have to do with fiscal responsibility?

Tea Party == MAGA

Dumbass troll.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?

The Tea Party was a reaction to massive spending and Obamacare. It was a an unorganized grassroots movement

The Tea Party arose in 2005, in reaction to the Bush McCain plot to erase the Southern Border, YEARS before Potentate Obamugabe oozed onto the scene.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?

The Tea Party was a reaction to massive spending and Obamacare. It was a an unorganized grassroots movement

The Tea Party arose in 2005, in reaction to the Bush McCain plot to erase the Southern Border, YEARS before Potentate Obamugabe oozed onto the scene.

I agree. It was well before Obamacare.

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[Uncensored2008]

The TEA party movement was more concerned with backing the GOP than actually calling out profligate spending. Where was the TEA party when President GW Bush was blowing up budgets?

The Tea Party was a reaction to massive spending and Obamacare. It was a an unorganized grassroots movement

I understand that, but where was this movement when the spending started going thru the roof during the Bush Administration.

Protesting Bush and Open Borders McCain.

 

[whitehall]

Hussein doubled the debit and we didn't get a thing from it except double digit unemployment and extortion money paid to terrorist regimes. The DOW increased by about 46% to record territory in two years under Trump. The Tea Party is still around as you can see from the number of assaults on old men wearing MAGA hats and conservative speakers.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Hussein doubled the debit and we didn't get a thing from it except double digit unemployment and extortion money paid to terrorist regimes. The DOW increased by about 46% to record territory in two years under Trump. The Tea Party is still around as you can see from the number of assaults on old men wearing MAGA hats and conservative speakers.

I am not letting Trump off the hook either. That spend-thrift motherfucker is not performing the job he was hired to do.

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.

There never was a ‘tea party.’

It was just a collection of extraordinarily ignorance, stupid, and ridiculous Republicans.

 

[LeftofLeft]

White "conservatives" were all enraged because Obama started his administration by spending big bucks. A move that saved the economy. They claimed their movement was not about race even as we saw all manner of racist signs and sentiment. The opposition was said to be about spending by Obama.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

President Trump has now amassed his first $1 trillion in debt, crossing that ignominious mark late last week — and analysts said it’s just a taste of what’s to come after the tax-cuts and spending spree of recent months.

Indeed, his next $1 trillion could come within a year, and one analyst said he could soon be staring at $3 trillion annual deficits if things go particularly badly in interest rates.

It’s a major reversal for a president who during the campaign had said given eight years he could eliminate the debt entirely, but is instead looking at setting records for red ink.

Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

The US national debt passed $22 trillion on February 11, the first time the federal debt had breached that threshold.

The landmark came just over two years after President Donald Trump, who once promised to eliminate the federal debt in eight years, took over the Oval Office.

The US Treasury has been tracking day-by-day debt accumulation since the start of 1993, meaning daily debt figures are available for the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump.

In raw terms, Trump added the second-most debt of any recent president. According to the Treasury data, the US added $2.07 trillion — $2,065,536,336,472.90 to be exact — in new debt between Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2017, and February 11, when the country pushed past $22 trillion. (The US added another $2.8 billion through February 15, the latest daily figures available.)

That is less than the $3.46 trillion added between Obama's inauguration in January 2009 and February 11, 2011, but it is more than the $676 billion added under Bush and the $617 billion added under Clinton in their first 752 days as president.

One important difference between Trump's debt figures and Obama's is that Trump has added a massive amount of debt while the US economy has been strong, whereas Obama took over during the depths of the financial crisis.

Economists typically recommend that the federal government increase spending, and thus add more debt, during times of economic struggles and then pay down that debt when the economy recovers. So while economic theory would support Obama's spending to help support the economy, Trump's recent debt binge has less support among economists.

The US national debt just pushed past $22 trillion — here's how Trump's $2 trillion in debt compares with Obama, Bush, and Clinton

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt

In a statement, the CRFB said the budget deal "may be the worst in history," given the country's current precarious fiscal condition.

"Members of Congress should cancel their summer recess and return to the negotiating table for a better deal. If they don't, those who support this deal should hang their heads in total shame as they bolt town," says Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB. "This deal would amount to nothing short of fiscal sabotage."

If President Donald Trump signs the deal into law, he will have authorized a 22 percent increase in federal discretionary spending during his first term in office—having signed a March 2018 budget deal that similarly jacked up both domestic and military spending.

Possible Budget Deal Will Add $2 Trillion to the National Debt – Reason.com

So if the tea party was not a racist movement, where are all the protests now? The same people protesting Obamas spending when it was necessary, support and defend Trumps spending now which is not.

The Tea Party got choked by the Obama Administration about the same time they were closing up Occupy Wall Street.

 

[IM2]

Hussein doubled the debit and we didn't get a thing from it except double digit unemployment and extortion money paid to terrorist regimes. The DOW increased by about 46% to record territory in two years under Trump. The Tea Party is still around as you can see from the number of assaults on old men wearing MAGA hats and conservative speakers.

There was no President Hussein.

And it is really disingenuous to talk about Obamas spending when economists say the government should do what Obama did to stimulate a dead economy. Had Obama not spent, the economy would have died. Trump has a healthy economy with no need for a stimulus.

And what you got was a drop of over 5 percentage points in unemployment handing a 4.7 unemployment rate to Trump, and full employment. The DOW was at record level during Obama and were rising when Trump took office.

 

[Brain357]

They were a joke.

 

[Brain357]

Hussein doubled the debit and we didn't get a thing from it except double digit unemployment and extortion money paid to terrorist regimes. The DOW increased by about 46% to record territory in two years under Trump. The Tea Party is still around as you can see from the number of assaults on old men wearing MAGA hats and conservative speakers.

And trump increased deficits...

 

[Brain357]

Hussein doubled the debit and we didn't get a thing from it except double digit unemployment and extortion money paid to terrorist regimes. The DOW increased by about 46% to record territory in two years under Trump. The Tea Party is still around as you can see from the number of assaults on old men wearing MAGA hats and conservative speakers.

There was no President Hussein.

And it is really disingenuous to talk about Obamas spending when economists say the government should do what Obama did to stimulate a dead economy. Had Obama not spent, the economy would have died. Trump has a healthy economy with no need for a stimulus.

And what you got was a drop of over 5 percentage points in unemployment handing a 4.7 unemployment rate to Trump, and full employment. The DOW was at record level during Obama and were rising when Trump took office.

We should never have increasing deficits during a strong economy. Completely irresponsible. Deficit Donald is the worst!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Hussein doubled the debit and we didn't get a thing from it except double digit unemployment and extortion money paid to terrorist regimes. The DOW increased by about 46% to record territory in two years under Trump. The Tea Party is still around as you can see from the number of assaults on old men wearing MAGA hats and conservative speakers.

There was no President Hussein.

And it is really disingenuous to talk about Obamas spending when economists say the government should do what Obama did to stimulate a dead economy. Had Obama not spent, the economy would have died. Trump has a healthy economy with no need for a stimulus.

And what you got was a drop of over 5 percentage points in unemployment handing a 4.7 unemployment rate to Trump, and full employment. The DOW was at record level during Obama and were rising when Trump took office.

I will only agree that those bitching about Obama spending and ignoring Trump (and Bush) spending are at best hypocrites.

I disagree with those economists to a certain extent. A lot of those guys are proponents of spending to a point where private industry dies (aka they are commies). To the extent that I agree with the economist on some measures, I did not agree with some of the types of spending Obama approved (and George Bush).

What's happening here is that some see politicians as archetypes (either all good or all evil).

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[Brain357]

Out parties sure are full of sheep.