One was something like, doing something for someone that they can and should do for themselves is the worst thing that you can do to anyone.
To the extent that you agree with that statement is probably the extent to which you are a Conservative.
Messed up the quote thingy again. Sorry.
The following was quoted from amrchaos:
1.Find some one that will argue against that statement heart and soul.
Good luck. I think you have better chances of finding the Easter bunny or Leprechauns.
2) Explain why only conservatives will agree with this?
By the way--I am not a conservative.[/QUOTE]
end quoteI don't think that anyone is either a pure, party line Conservative or a pure party line Liberal.
My mother was absolutely against abortion, absolutely in favor of unionism, very religious, believed that acceptance of public assistance was a shameful act, believed that minorities were inferior and that the military was just slightly less respectable than the priesthood. She voted a straight Democratic ticket in every election from FDR forward.
She saw herself as a Democrat. She saw Republicans as devils incranate for no particular reason. They were something like protestants in her mind. No matter. How people indentify themselves is largely a personnal matter. Lord knows, how I might view you should have little or no impact on how YOU view you. We're all, I suspect, trying to do the best we can with what we have.
That said, I don't think that Liberalism or Conservatism has any further necessary role in our lives than to wisely spend the money that they have been given. Fiscal Conservatism will lead to lower spending. Being Fiscally Liberal will lead to higher spending. In our political system, there is no Party the restrains spending, so I do not have a Party indentification.
Socially, I see value in most of what both parties hold dear. Issue by issue, I probably take about half from both sides of the fence. HOWEVER, socially, I see no need for any Federal spending on these things at all. That's what forces me to say that I am a Conservative. This kind of spending is a States Rights thing.
Do you see yourself as a fiscal liberal, a social liberal or both?[/QUOTE]
I view myself as a social liberal. Probably near to a social anarchist except I do understand the need for social order--but rarely agrees on the basis for civil order as dictated by many civil organizations(Government(nat, state, local), religious groups, civic groups)
I do not believe that government does has a say in your household--I also believe that neither does your neighbors, priests or doctors. Your home is your last vestige of privacy.
Also, the whole concept that marriage belongs to religious order only is a bunch bull crap since the religious groups have never complained how marriage has become "Nationalized" over the decades. The Moral majority let Big brother take it over through regulations , tax breaks(never thought that could be a key to nationalism now did you?) and even laws that dictates who can and cannot marry.
Because of this, I really do not care if you marry with your sex, your family, or your FARM. Whatever that makes you happy as long as I do not have to be apart of it.
On taxes--That is the cost of civilization. Now here is Something I do not get from the left. Corporations pay taxes-to the government-why should they be shunned from recieving a bailout? For the right, Corporate bailouts is not socialism--it is corporatism. Yes, I support some forms of corporatism and socialism. If done right, the practice can be done to maintain order indirectly. That is--instead of jailing a man for stealing a loaf, provide the social/economic framework that will encourage that same person to find a job so he can buy instead of steal. That requires some socialism and corporatism. Not just one--both.
